# Omnibus World Football Thread 2020-2022 (edited) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\ **Created:** [August 16, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264 "2020-08-16T15:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/842 "2023-03-09T18:22:54Z")
??? I dont’ get it ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/843 "2023-03-09T18:23:58Z")
Oh! because the owner of PSG is Quatari? ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/844 "2023-03-09T18:31:24Z")
Right, and I think in the end, they pull the strings because they bring the money. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/845 "2023-03-09T18:34:51Z")
And they know about football about as much as they know about democracy ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/846 "2023-03-09T18:47:07Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > For contrast, the 33-year-old Thomas Mueller, who runs around like a madman on both offense and defense, makes tackles, and has a high goals/assists, usually covers more than 11 km/90 minutes, and sometimes 12. Thomas Müller is a phenomenon who has been playing at that level for Bayern for almost 15 years, almost without any injuries or lack of form. He’s also, though only vice-captain, Bayern’s tactical leader on the pitch, constantly leading and motivating his teammates verbally. He’s already one of the most important and valuable players Bayern ever had, in that respect on par with Beckenbauer, Breitner, Matthäus and Effenberg. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/847 "2023-03-09T19:17:26Z")
Yeah, PSG isn’t a real team. They do have talent in the midfield and back (Veratti and Marquinos are both great!) but tactically it isn’t there. You can get away with 1 attacker not working hard, but not all 3. MSN worked at Barcelona because Suarez was a hard working true #9 (Mbappe is correct in that PSG would be better if they had one) and Messi hadn’t completely stopped pressing at that point. Don’t get me wrong, they were still super talented on the rest of the field, but the attack wasn’t merely something slapped on top. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/848 "2023-03-09T19:23:23Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Thomas Müller is a phenomenon who has been playing at that level for Bayern for almost 15 years, almost without any injuries or lack of form. He’s also, though only vice-captain, Bayern’s tactical leader on the pitch, constantly leading and motivating his teammates verbally. He’s already one of the most important and valuable players Bayern ever had, in that respect on par with Beckenbauer, Breitner, Matthäus and Effenberg. He is indeed! I’m not sure if you were pointing to him being really unusual in contrast to Mbappe - he is very much so, but 7.7 is still really, really low (I was just pointing out an extreme contrast). In another comparison, Lewandowski averaged 9.84 km/90 minutes in his last season at Bayern… ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/849 "2023-03-09T19:49:42Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I’m not sure if you were pointing to him being really unusual in contrast to Mbappe - he is very much so, but 7.7 is still really, really low (I was just pointing out an extreme contrast). In another comparison, Lewandowski averaged 9.84 km/90 minutes in his last season at Bayern… No, that was just general praise for a fantastic football player who’s sometimes a bit underestimated/underappreciated outside of Germany. Of course, compared to guys like Mbappé or Messi, he’s rather the worker/fighter than an artist, but he’s also the master of the deadly one-touch pass and one of the most intelligent players (on and off the pitch, he’s really funny and eloquent in interviews). And he plays very efficiently, I just read a short article on [kicker.de](http://kicker.de) about Müller’s personal record against Messi: he played Messi 8 times, 6 times with Bayern in the CL and twice in World Cups with Germany vs. Argentina, and the statistics for Müller are: 7-1 wins, 6-2 goals and 2-1 assists. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/850 "2023-03-10T00:00:41Z")
I don’t like him 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/851 "2023-03-10T02:31:10Z")
Muller is a guy I used to think was pretty overrated, but he’s grown on me. As a player at least, I think he’s extremely unfunny in interviews. As a player I now think of him like Benzema in the Ronaldo years. Not in the style, but that they do the little things for the benefit of the team even if they’re not flashy. And probably not getting as much credit for it as they should. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/852 "2023-03-20T15:48:18Z")
[Antonio Conte, ladies and gentlemen!](https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-iba-3&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-3&hspart=iba&p=antonio+conte+press+conference+today&type=sdff_9527_FFW_ZZ#id=15&vid=315eab737af7bdd2bc9866beced33dd1&action=view) Who could have imagined that his time at Spurs would end in a spectacular flameout? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/853 "2023-03-20T15:52:17Z")
Has he quit or been sacked? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/854 "2023-03-20T15:55:31Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > [Antonio Conte, ladies and gentlemen!](https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-iba-3&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-3&hspart=iba&p=antonio+conte+press+conference+today&type=sdff_9527_FFW_ZZ#id=15&vid=315eab737af7bdd2bc9866beced33dd1&action=view) > > Who could have imagined that his time at Spurs would end in a spectacular flameout? **Video unavailable** This video contains content from Tottenham Hotspur Football and Athletic Co. Limited, who has blocked it from display on this website or application ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/855 "2023-03-20T15:58:33Z")
[Try this one.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fgkoXNHaoxg) It’s only some highlights of the full ten minute rant, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/856 "2023-03-21T17:41:47Z")
Can’t believe the chap is still employed there. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/857 "2023-03-21T18:35:23Z")
Wait a minute, he’s still the coach? woah. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/858 "2023-03-22T00:07:01Z")
Only speculation now - let’s hope it stays that way. [https://sports.yahoo.com/report-lionel-messi-ready-extraordinary-154027870.html](https://sports.yahoo.com/report-lionel-messi-ready-extraordinary-154027870.html) 'the hell?!?.. > [@](#): > > Messi’s father is, according to _El Chiringuito_ demanding a salary of €600 million from Al-Hilal in order to join the side. [Ronaldo is said to be earning a quarter of that] Messi’s contract expires this summer. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/859 "2023-03-22T01:39:19Z")
I don’t want that to happen, but it would be hilarious because how much it would rub Ronaldo the wrong way. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/860 "2023-03-26T22:58:39Z")
He’s gone now. > **[Tottenham manager Conte leaves by mutual consent](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64168691)** > > Manager Antonio Conte leaves Tottenham after 16 months in charge and his dismissal comes after he called the Spurs players "selfish". ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/861 "2023-03-26T23:08:47Z")
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