# Omnibus World Football Thread 2020-2022 (edited)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [August 16, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264 "2020-08-16T15:38:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/922 "2023-06-07T22:29:35Z")

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Yes, really

> **[Lionel Messi confirms he will spurn Barcelona and Saudis for Inter Miami in MLS](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/07/lionel-messi-inter-miami-mls-barcelona-saudi-arabia-transfer-news)**
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> Lionel Messi has confirmed his next, and possibly final, club in his wildly successful football career with the news that he will join Inter Miami of MLS

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/923 "2023-06-07T22:35:46Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Wait, really? I just googled that and only see rumors.

Eh, not a done deal, but it could happen!

> **[Sources: Busquets in talks to join Messi in Miami](https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37814457/sergio-busquets-talks-join-lionel-messi-inter-miami-sources)**
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> Sergio Busquets has held talks with Inter Miami about the possibility of following Lionel Messi to the Major League Soccer franchise, sources have confirmed to ESPN.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/924 "2023-06-10T19:51:28Z")

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The first half of the CL final was disappointing so far. Inter destroying City’s game, but not doing much else. And de Bruyne already out. Lucky bench though that can bring Foden instead.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/925 "2023-06-10T20:25:14Z")

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Pep, you know what you have to do…  
[![](https://i0.wp.com/elsolnewsmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/1601498876_582320_1601498920_noticia_normal.jpg?resize=750%2C375&ssl=1) ](https://i0.wp.com/elsolnewsmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/1601498876_582320_1601498920_noticia_normal.jpg?resize=750%2C375&ssl=1)

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/926 "2023-06-10T20:28:03Z")

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And 1-0 City! First shot on goal in the second half.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/927 "2023-06-10T20:31:00Z")

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Nice goal, somewhat at odds with the rest of the match, now it seems to be getting more interesting.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/928 "2023-06-10T20:31:46Z")

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As we see the biggest chance for Inter so far.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/929 "2023-06-10T20:33:53Z")

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There’s a tongue in cheek theory that all matches sould start 1-0, this is why

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**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/930 "2023-06-13T07:52:54Z")

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Ivan Toney was in the UK news again this week, crying about his recent ban for betting and how he missed out on the England world cup squad.

> **[Missing World Cup was worse than ban - Toney](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65875641)**
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> Brentford striker Ivan Toney says missing last year's World Cup was a bigger punishment than the eight-month ban he is serving for breaking betting rules.

Leads me to think - how on earth did he get away with such a light punishment? 100s of bets, including backing himself to score, and betting on his parent club to lose when he was on loan. He’ll be back playing in January.

The premier league is in thrall to the gambling industry here, so taking a stand against betting would involve some doublethink. And a gambling addiction like Toney’s is a serious condition that needs help. But there has to be severe repercussions for players gambling or you basically have no game.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/931 "2023-06-13T09:41:07Z")

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I think you make a fair point, on the other hand if his offences couldn’t have adversely affected his performance (i.e. he wasn’t throwing matches) then I can see how a lighter punishment could be appropriate. Then again, didn’t Pete Rose claim that he only bet on his team to win, and that was discredited? Even if it wasn’t, the wider point is that there is always the suspicion that a known gambler will at some point bet against themselves, it just hasn’t happened/been discovered yet. Hence the blanket ban on all bets.

Bottom line - yes, the league and the industry (and the government, who seem to be in the pocket of the gambling lobby) could and should do more. See also Paul Merson’s documentary on the subject.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/932 "2023-06-13T10:39:26Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Yes, really

I was at the Miami away match a few evenings ago, and already the Messi kits (and chants) were in force.

That aside, man that Miami team was a complete shambles …I say good luck to him.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/933 "2023-06-13T12:54:24Z")

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Frankly I don’t think he cares too much about winning anything in the MLS, as I said he’s going into semi-retirement, he’s going to have fun, probably try outrageous skill moves every time he touches the ball and generally relax and enjoy.  
I also think (but I may be very wrong here) that the public there will eat that up and celebrate everything without caring too much about winning.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/934 "2023-06-13T13:53:45Z")

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Mbappe doesn’t want to extend his option for another year; Real Madrid interested.

> **[Sources: Real Madrid ready to make Mbappe bid](https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37845729/real-madrid-ready-make-bid-sign-psg-star-kylian-mbappe-sources)**
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> Real Madrid are ready to bid for Kylian Mbappe this summer rather than waiting to sign him as a free agent, sources have told ESPN.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/935 "2023-06-13T13:56:15Z")

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Mbappe is too big for that joke of a club, should’ve done that years ago if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/936 "2023-06-15T15:17:08Z")

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Messi doing Messi things again… oh how we are going to miss you enano.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/937 "2023-06-15T16:09:34Z")

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For those in the US

[https://twitter.com/cbssportsgolazo/status/1669354124901777413?s=61&t=7zPHcBzjb1UW-wh6DrDc3g](https://twitter.com/cbssportsgolazo/status/1669354124901777413?s=61&t=7zPHcBzjb1UW-wh6DrDc3g)

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/938 "2023-06-15T16:25:00Z")

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I was talking about this  
[https://twitter.com/i/status/1669316753007017986](https://twitter.com/i/status/1669316753007017986)  
but yeah, that too.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/939 "2023-06-18T03:23:45Z")

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Nations League finals tomorrow in Europe and CONCACAF. I think a win for Canada would their first trophy since the Gold Cup in 2000? It’s also the last game for Atiba Hutchinson so a win would be a nice ending for him.

In the semifinal Mexico just got rolled by the US. I haven’t paid enough attention to know what’s going on with Mexico, but they sure seem to be on a bad streak.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/940 "2023-06-18T04:09:16Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> . I haven’t paid enough attention to know what’s going on with Mexico, but they sure seem to be on a bad streak.

Mexico has been on that streak for like a decade. It’s a lot of disorganized talent.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/941 "2023-06-18T14:03:13Z")

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Mexico has been on a bad streak since football was invented…

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