# Omnibus World Football Thread 2020-2022 (edited)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [August 16, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264 "2020-08-16T15:38:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1082 "2024-02-08T20:19:17Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Apparently both the Premier League and Bundesliga are headed that way next season. Bundesliga article:

I immediately see the next problem with that. The whole stadium looking at their phones is an instant mood killer, and ultra fans won’t do it anyway, they are very traditional and that’s not their way of enjoying a football game. Why not an explanation by the ref over the stadium speakers and replays of the situation on the stadium screen?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1083 "2024-02-08T20:43:25Z")

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Somewhere I read that one concern was a potential lack of facility with whatever the local language is, particularly for international matches. An app would allow for translations.

But that doesn’t explain the Bundesliga, where presumably all referees speak German.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1084 "2024-02-08T21:01:00Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Somewhere I read that one concern was a potential lack of facility with whatever the local language is, particularly for international matches. An app would allow for translations.

Hasn’t been English lingua franca in football for years like everywhere else? How do refs without English even communicate without English in international games? I guess language shouldn’t be much of a concern.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1085 "2024-02-08T21:05:19Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> I frankly prefer a bad decision immediately to a good decision after 10 minutes of deliberation

I’d rather wait that 10 minutes for the correct decision than suffer for 10 years (or more) because of one bad call. Which is what some fanbases still suffer over, bad calls whose ramifications could be felt years or decades later.

Plus, it gives the players’ legs a much-needed rest in the middle of a game.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1086 "2024-02-08T21:07:42Z")

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Announcing a Euro VAR decision in English during a Poland-France match in Paris might come with some issues? It might be lingua franca for players and coaches, I’m less sure about in-stadium fans.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1087 "2024-02-08T21:19:47Z")

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Yeah, you’re right, I didn’t think it through well. What to do? Always let the calls be translated by two interpreters in the respective languages? That would make the process even longer and more complicated, while what most football fans want is to keep the game _simple_…I’s a dilemma, any way you slice it.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1088 "2024-02-09T17:49:14Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> The blue card has been notionally tested before, though I have not seen a game with it. Have any of you?

They are already backtracking on this.

> **[Premier League coaches object blue cards as IFAB backtracks](https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/premier-league-coaches-object-blue-cards-as-ifab-backtracks-20240209-WST-488611.html)**
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> Several top Premier League managers voiced their concerns over IFAB's new blue cards as the organization delays trials of the plan.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1089 "2024-02-09T19:22:28Z")

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Thanks Diego

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1090 "2024-02-14T20:17:42Z")

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Leverkusen posing a very credible threat to end Bayern’s reign atop the Bundesliga. 5-point lead but still plenty of games to go.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1091 "2024-02-14T20:24:44Z")

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I’m curious how Bayern will react at Lazio after the devastating 0-3 against Bayer last Saturday. Still 0-0 after 20 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1092 "2024-02-14T20:46:01Z")

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On another topic entirely: the Chinese now hate Messi, particularly in Hong Kong. Or so social media rant. Quite entertaining, good facepalming exercise:

> **[Lionel Messi: outcry in China and Hong Kong after star returns from injury in...](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/08/lionel-messi-injury-return-japan-anger-china-benching-unfit)**
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> Hong Kong fans need answers over missed fixture, government says, amid online furore over Inter Miami tour

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1093 "2024-02-14T20:50:38Z")

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That happens when you make football a shit show instead of the real deal, the sport. Can’t hide my schadenfreude…

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1094 "2024-02-14T21:35:36Z")

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I knew you would enjoy that.  
And in Rome in the meantime Lazio is up 1 - 0 and Bayern is down to 10 players after the red card for Upamecano when he fouled Isaksen, leading to the penalty kick.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1095 "2024-02-14T21:50:38Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> And in Rome in the meantime Lazio is up 1 - 0 and Bayern is down to 10 players after the red card for Upamecano when he fouled Isaksen, leading to the penalty kick.

😃 A reason for even more schadenfreude.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1096 "2024-02-14T21:52:53Z")

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If Bayern don’t make the next round, Tuchel will be out.

ETA: final whistle, 1-0 Lazio, he he.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1097 "2024-02-14T22:17:36Z")

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Hush, you!

That was so miserable.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1098 "2024-02-14T22:23:29Z")

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Sorry, I still can’t decide what’s sweeter, a win for my club Mönchengladbach or a loss for Bayern, any loss, I’m just wired this way, like any non-Bayern German football fan. You love or you hate them, nothing in between. Bayern losses are still rarer, though.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1099 "2024-02-14T22:46:34Z")

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They think players are some kind of robot that will destroy themselves for their amusement.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1100 "2024-02-16T00:13:05Z")

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Just now thought of the best knickname for Mbappe…

_KYLIANJARO!_

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1101 "2024-02-18T19:15:41Z")

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Just…Christ. I mean, seriously. Bochum!?

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