# Omnibus World Football Thread 2020-2022 (edited) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\ **Created:** [August 16, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264 "2020-08-16T15:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1142 "2024-04-17T22:22:03Z")
Love to see Dortmund invading the (metaphorical) pitch! ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1143 "2024-04-17T23:17:40Z")
3 of the 4 quarterfinals went against me. Dortmund are the only team remaining I don’t actively dislike, so I’m all in for them. Man, KDB is going to be up all night thinking about shaking that 8 yard shot in regulation. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1144 "2024-04-18T12:39:49Z")
Should’ve put Julian in the field earlier… (Joking, mostly, my man Julian didn’t precisely shake the field when the mighty Pep decided to put him in) ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1145 "2024-04-18T21:04:38Z")
And Leverkusen does it again, a late equalizer at West Ham, advancing to the semi finals in the Euroleague and playing the 44th unbeaten game of the season, a new record for the top five leagues in Europe. They really seem invincible this season. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1146 "2024-04-21T17:36:21Z")
And Leverkusen stay unbeaten, it’s unbelievable. In the 7th minute of overtime, they equalize for a 1-1 in Dortmund. They’ve done it again and again in this season, scoring late goals, that’s also a sign of mental strength and a sheer will that team has been showing for the whole season. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1147 "2024-04-21T17:48:10Z")
Incredible. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1148 "2024-04-21T17:54:43Z")
I’m not that familiar with Bundesliga, but once a team has won the title (it cannot possibly be surpassed,) what is its incentive to keep playing hard? Seems it might make more sense to rest all the good stars and instead only play the lower-level players to give them experience and develop them? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1149 "2024-04-21T18:06:32Z")
The pride of finishing undefeated would be a huge incentive. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1150 "2024-04-21T18:10:45Z")
They also have the longest undefeated streak in European football history, it’s a chance to make that streak even longer. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1151 "2024-04-21T18:29:35Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I’m not that familiar with Bundesliga, but once a team has won the title (it cannot possibly be surpassed,) what is its incentive to keep playing hard? Seems it might make more sense to rest all the good stars and instead only play the lower-level players to give them experience and develop them? What everybody said, an unbeaten season in the Bundesliga and on top of that, for all competitive games in the season including the DFB Cup and the Euroleague, would be records for the ages no team ever has pulled of, and they have only 7 games to play to break both records. And in a way, Alonso has already done what you propose, changing the starting team on 4-6 positions for every game. Leverkusen’s bench is so good that in most games, it doesn’t make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1152 "2024-04-21T18:49:17Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > and they have only 7 games to play to break both records Too late to edit: correction, 8 games to play: 4 last Bundesliga games, both semi-finals (against Roma) and the (possible) final in the Euroleague, and the DFB Cup final against Kaiserslautern. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1153 "2024-04-21T19:41:33Z")
Watching El Clasico now and a good example of something that’s bothered me for a while, dragging your leg to cause contact in search of a foul. RM got a penalty after a sloppy challenge, but the contact was caused by the attacker who dove and then stuck his leg out so that there would be contact. Uncontroversial pk given and all the announcers agree. Later, Yamal goes down in the box avoiding a challenge, but he doesn’t drag his leg to cause contact. Is it intended/ok that the difference between a foul and good defending is whether or not the attacker initiates contact with a deliberate intention to draw a pk? ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1154 "2024-04-21T19:46:07Z")
There are 3 knockout games that could potentially end in a penalty shootout. Would losing one of those still count as “unbeaten”? ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1155 "2024-04-21T20:00:30Z")
I’m really at a loss there, as these kind of records are not official. But I seem to remember that according to official FIFA rules, knock-out games that end in a shoot-out are officially registered as draws for both teams. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1156 "2024-04-21T22:20:15Z")
Yes, the match is a draw, the penalties are just to clarify who goes forward. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1157 "2024-04-22T17:58:50Z")
And the incoming players have an unusually powerful incentive in not wanting to be responsible for the record-ending defeat. > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Is it intended/ok that the difference between a foul and good defending is whether or not the attacker initiates contact with a deliberate intention to draw a pk? I’m not an expert on the laws of association football (LOAF), but I believe if a player has to take action to avoid contact with a challenging player, a foul and free kick (or penalty kick if in the box) can still be awarded. But I’m not sure how often that’s enforced. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1158 "2024-04-27T19:11:38Z")
I’m sorry that I sound like a broken record, but Leverkusen once again held up their record of unbeaten games in a season (now the 46th), and again equalized for a 2-2 in the 6th minute of overtime against Stuttgart, maybe the second best Bundesliga team of this season (they are 3rd behind Bayern, but played the much more attractive football). They seem to have nerves of steel. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1159 "2024-04-27T20:25:43Z")
Unfreakingbelievable. All that extra time certainly helps. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1160 "2024-04-27T20:40:34Z")
At this point we must conclude that they are doing it on purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264/1161 "2024-04-28T00:00:02Z")
Thought of you today, Messi is literally a couple of miles away from me at this very moment & sold out the stadium. A lot of excitement locally! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-world-football-thread-2020-2022-edited/918264.md?page=59)