# On an "Ask the Pedophile" thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [February 6, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906 "2010-02-06T04:34:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/241 "2010-02-07T15:42:37Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> Bolding mine.
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> Ha ha ha…that’s hilarious. No bad language, though. No calling someone a motherfucker. We need to raise the tone of the board, after all.

Is there something about the word “topics” that you are having trouble understanding?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/242 "2010-02-07T15:55:46Z")

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/243 "2010-02-07T16:07:32Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is there something about the word “topics” that you are having trouble understanding?

No, but clearly there is something about the ridiculous hair-splitting and disingenuous nature of all this that you are having trouble understanding.

This isn’t just about topics. It’s about being told on the one hand that we’re all adults here and need to be prepared for adult subject matter, then **Giraffe** getting called out for using the word ‘motherfucker’ about someone \*who wants to fuck small children and thinks 5-year-olds want to fuck him and that the laws should be changed to accommodate that. \*

Whatever. I sense that you understand what I meant 100% and are being deliberately obtuse.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/244 "2010-02-07T16:13:25Z")

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> [@bbs2k](#):
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> You do realize that the OP isn’t referring to a thread about being reformed?

Yes

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/245 "2010-02-07T16:24:03Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is there something about the word “topics” that you are having trouble understanding?

I don’t know…probably the same thing you’re having trouble understanding about “adult sites”. Generally “adult sites” don’t protect people from naughty words.

Or, if you’re going to stick with the bullshit distraction about “topics”, how about “Have you ever vandalized Wikipedia?” as a topic? Hm? Not “How do I,.” or “Let’s go do it…” just.. “have you?”

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/246 "2010-02-07T16:28:53Z")

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Wow.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/247 "2010-02-07T16:30:28Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is there something about the word “topics” that you are having trouble understanding?

At what point will you learn that when you’re in a deep hole, you don’t keep digging?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/248 "2010-02-07T16:31:44Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> I am pretty astounded by this. I am not being critical of Marley, but the practice. I would have thought SOP would have required a history of warnings etc.

We do keep track of warnings. We usually don’t keep track of notes. This is a case where if we’d seen he’d been written up that many times I think he’d have gotten warned for it. That’s something for us to take a second looked at.

> [@ntucker](#):
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> First of all, if your read of the situation is that “people are constantly inviting him to bring up the subject,” you’re seriously disconnected from the board you’re supposed to be moderating. You can argue that all the outcry is counterproductive because it’s just indirectly giving him what he wants, a la “feeding the trolls,” but come on: it’s clear that the goal of all this outcry is to **make him stop bringing up the subject of having sex with babies and children**. For you to suggest that suppressing this discussion would be inconsistent with what the board is “inviting” is jaw-droppingly disingenuous.  
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> On the other hand, it would give the guy the rope to hang himself, and if you guys are going to be as ineffectual about keeping him in check as you have been, maybe letting him go way over the line would finally prod someone into banning his ass and we’d be done.

This conclusion is pretty much what I’m arguing. I know nobody wants him to bring up the subject. I’m saying that by going after him pre-emptively, people wind up giving him an opening and that prevents us from taking a tougher stance.  
Having seen seen **Cesario** has already been told four times that he needs to stop it, though, I think he’s been given more than enough notice and as far as I’m concerned notes and advisement won’t cut it in the future.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/249 "2010-02-07T16:46:36Z")

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C’mon guys, you have banned people at the drop of a hat before and stood in front of the rash of complaints about it because they were liked people. You don’t need to defend your case or go to appeals. Just ban the dumb thing and be done with it. Say you found out he had a sock. Whatever. Nobody is going to fight you for it.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/250 "2010-02-07T16:47:14Z")

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> [@Cesario](#):
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> I’ll remind people that I do have a life outside this message board.

Pre-School janitor’s assisatant?

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**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/251 "2010-02-07T16:52:29Z")

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So it seems that **Cesario** is welcome to post on any other topics, but if posters see him introducing the topic of pedophilia into threads that are not discussing that topic, it would be appropriate to report his post rather than engaging him in discussion.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/252 "2010-02-07T17:00:26Z")

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> [@Sidney Evgeni Jordan](#):
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> So it seems that **Cesario** is welcome to post on any other topics, but if posters see him introducing the topic of pedophilia into threads that are not discussing that topic, it would be appropriate to report his post rather than engaging him in discussion.

Yeah, well, that, I guess. I mean, if you are into being reasonable and that stuff. Don’t you have a pitchfork to sharpen like everybody else?

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/253 "2010-02-07T17:02:24Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> This conclusion is pretty much what I’m arguing. I know nobody wants him to bring up the subject. I’m saying that by going after him pre-emptively, people wind up giving him an opening and that prevents us from taking a tougher stance.

This has been asked and not answered over and over again here so let’s try again, maybe you can blow my mind for me again.

Reread what you said (what I quoted) and please explain (because, you know, we’re all just too dense to see) why is it different with a childfucker (can’t say motherfucker, natch!) but it could be done to someone who talked about bondage with grown adults (aka **EvilCaptor** )?

Now that you realize just how many times he’s been told, how hard is it just to send him a PM like you all did to **EC** and tell him that he’s not allowed to do it anymore? Instead of hoping he’ll stop (he’s shown you that your warnings mean nothing to him) maybe you could make him stop?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/254 "2010-02-07T17:10:16Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> And I’m also a little grossed out by the suspicious that the OP is currently reading this thread and getting off on this discussion.

There aren’t any children here, so probably not.

> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> Now that you realize just how many times he’s been told, how hard is it just to send him a PM like you all did to **EC** and tell him that he’s not allowed to do it anymore? Instead of hoping he’ll stop (he’s shown you that your warnings mean nothing to him) maybe you could make him stop?

I’ll answer this. It’s not hard, and Marley is full of shit.

[MeanOldLady receives a billion warnings and temporary suspension for calling a moderator full of shit, meanwhile Cesario posts repeatedly about what should be his inalienable right to fuck toddlers, and continues to ignore warnings, if any]

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/255 "2010-02-07T17:14:09Z")

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Tsk, tsk. You must frame it like this: Marley’s POSTS are full of shit.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/256 "2010-02-07T17:18:17Z")

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Ha! I actually tried to go back and edit it to read “and Marley['s post] is full of shit,” but I missed the edit window.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/257 "2010-02-07T17:28:53Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Ha! I actually tried to go back and edit it to read “and Marley['s post] is full of shit,” but I missed the edit window.

O it wouldn’t matter. They’ve suspended people for what they put before they edited it out. As Tuba likes to remind us, they can suspend you for whatever reason they want to at any time. Apparently, she’s come a long way with pedophilia since the days when she broke the law regarding one because although they have the ability to ban him, they choose not to

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/258 "2010-02-07T17:32:02Z")

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It’s pretty obvious from this thread that an ask the pedo thread would be a bad idea, and that Cesario’s continued presence on this board is highly disruptive. I don’t see any value in his continued presence. Maybe he could get a rule where he doesn’t post about pedophilia again, ever. Christ, **Reeder** had a rule limiting his Bush bashing threads, and was banned for violating it.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/259 "2010-02-07T18:07:38Z")

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> [@Sapo](#):
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> [QUOTE=Giraffe]  
> What’s the alternative? Just gritting our teeth and looking the other way while he drops gross little turds like he did in the flirting thread?

The alternative is banning him for breaking an existing rule. Not for being gross.  
[/QUOTE]

I’m not calling for his banning at all. I’m using the Pit to engage another poster whose behavior is pissing me off – ideally, he’ll see how gross he’s being and stop. I think that’s more constructive than simply ignoring his squicky posts and hoping the mods deal with him, even if it does give him attention.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/260 "2010-02-07T18:12:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is there something about the word “topics” that you are having trouble understanding?

Then why is Claude Remains suspended?

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