# On an "Ask the Pedophile" thread **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 6, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906 "2010-02-06T04:34:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/261 "2010-02-07T18:22:29Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > This conclusion is pretty much what I’m arguing. I know nobody wants him to bring up the subject. I’m saying that by going after him pre-emptively, people wind up giving him an opening and that prevents us from taking a tougher stance. > Having seen seen **Cesario** has already been told four times that he needs to stop it, though, I think he’s been given more than enough notice and as far as I’m concerned notes and advisement won’t cut it in the future. > [@Sidney Evgeni Jordan](#): > > So it seems that **Cesario** is welcome to post on any other topics, but if posters see him introducing the topic of pedophilia into threads that are not discussing that topic, it would be appropriate to report his post rather than engaging him in discussion. > [@Sapo](#): > > Yeah, well, that, I guess. I mean, if you are into being reasonable and that stuff. Don’t you have a pitchfork to sharpen like everybody else? Actually, I do. 😃 **Cesario** has been given ample opportunity to advocate for legalization of pedophilia in multiple threads already, so all of the handwringing about protecting his free speech is bullshit, IMO. I was just trying not to put words in **Marley** ’s mouth. I haven’t been here long enough to know whether a mod can actually tell other posters to report one specific poster who won’t refrain from introducing a particular topic. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/262 "2010-02-07T18:22:57Z")
I posted this in the Pit thread as well, but how is [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11964733&postcount=121) not promoting sex with children?? Because he basically said, “Oh, I could make a comment about how easy it is to find a virgin under a certain age, but I won’t…” \. **Mean Old Lady** , you should come hang with the mutant horses. I \ you. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/263 "2010-02-07T18:23:16Z")
> [@xash](#): > > On review, **Cesario** ’s request has been denied. > > This decision was not based on the topic of the thread, but on the poster’s posting history in regards to this topic. > > - **xash** > Administrator All right. Thank you for your decision. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/264 "2010-02-07T18:23:48Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Anyone wanna help me compile a list of prohibited and condoned activities on the SDMB? So far I’ve got: > > NO NO’s > Talking about Vandalizing Wikipedia > Talking about Illegal Drugs I notice how quick you are to accuse the mods and admins of being disingenuous, but then you post something like this. There are threads about illegal drugs _all the time_. You can’t specifically ask for help breaking the law (e.g., “Where can I score some acid in Atlanta?”), but discussing the drugs themselves is fine. You should also understand the concept that if you’ve racked up a pile of warnings, the next one (even if it’s for something which is not, by itself, ban-worthy) can get you suspended or banned. > [@tacoloco](#): > > By allowing Cesario to have a thread as suggested in the OP, is that not defacto sanctioning by TPTB? Take a look at the list of “ask the…” threads we have had here. I can guarantee we don’t sanction the activities described in all of them. And, as someone else pointed out, we frequently have threads started on both sides of a topic at the same time. Which side is TPTB supposedly sanctioning? > [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > You also can’t talk about illegal downloading See what I said to **Inner Stickler**. You can’t promote illegal activities, you can’t ask for help breaking the law, and you can’t give specific instructions for breaking the law. But we discuss illegal downloading _a lot_ on the SDMB: how does it work, what are the consequences, where is it legal, should it be legal, pirating in the news… > [@Cicero](#): > > I am pretty astounded by this. I am not being critical of Marley, but the practice. I would have thought SOP would have required a history of warnings etc. We do have a history of warnings. But **Marley** was talking about mod notes. They don’t go on your permanent record, so to speak. They’re just friendly reminders from the mods not to continue down the path you’re taking. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/265 "2010-02-07T18:59:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I know nobody wants him to bring up the subject. I’m not convinced, when they post things like [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12078819&postcount=4)(just the most recent example, I’ve seen others.) I see those kinds of posts as baiting, no more, no less. And there seem to be far too many people 'round here who take some joy in saying “kiddiefucker” or versions thereof. For all his “sins”, I don’t think I’ve seen \*\*Cesario \*\*go off at another poster like that once. ---
**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/266 "2010-02-07T19:02:55Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Is Creative Loafing _absolutely sure_ that no posts will be made on this board that won’t be kiddy porn at any time in any thread? Do you apply this standard usually? I assume you think the boards should be shut down? It seems the logical conclusion of your reasoning. Given that 99% of the other discussions on this board have nothing to do with kiddie porn, much less treading anywhere near describing what makes kids “sexy”, I think it’s fair to say that it’s far less of a concern for the ordinary threads than it is for a thread specifically dedicated to someone who does find kids “sexy” and is unrepentant about it. Do you really not see that? If the boards get shut down that would really be the least of their worries. Also, I agree with Sleeps – I’d like to know how many warnings someone gets to flout before mods consider backing up words with deeds. Your warnings don’t appear to be effective in this case. If _nothing_ else, doesn’t repeatedly flouting warnings fall under the “Don’t be a jerk” rule? ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/267 "2010-02-07T19:03:16Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > There aren’t any children here, so probably not. No, but he gets to watch us talk about whether or not to allow him to post about wanting to rape children, which makes him think about raping children, which… ---
**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/268 "2010-02-07T19:05:39Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’m not convinced, when they post things like [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12078819&postcount=4)(just the most recent example, I’ve seen others.) I see those kinds of posts as baiting, no more, no less. > > And there seem to be far too many people 'round here who take some joy in saying “kiddiefucker” or versions thereof. For all his “sins”, I don’t think I’ve seen \*\*Cesario \*\*go off at another poster like that once. Yeah, we are really lucky that we got a POLITE advocate for legalizing pedophilia. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/269 "2010-02-07T19:09:04Z")
[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:264, topic:527906”] I\ You can’t specifically ask for help breaking the law (e.g., “Where can I score some acid in Atlanta?”), but discussing the drugs themselves is fine. You should also understand the concept that if you’ve racked up a pile of warnings, the next one (even if it’s for something which is not, by itself, ban-worthy) can get you suspended or banned. Take a look at the list of “ask the…” threads we have had here. I can guarantee we don’t sanction the activities described in all of them. And, as someone else pointed out, we frequently have threads started on both sides of a topic at the same time. Which side is TPTB supposedly sanctioning? See what I said to **Inner Stickler**. You can’t promote illegal activities, you can’t ask for help breaking the law, and you can’t give specific instructions for breaking the law. But we discuss illegal downloading _a lot_ on the SDMB: how does it work, what are the consequences, where is it legal, should it be legal, pirating in the news… \ [/QUOTE] Fair enough. I was having trouble reconciling what I’ve actually seen on the Dope (and seen restricted on the Dope), and I think you’ve cleared that up. I blame the lateness of the hour. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/270 "2010-02-07T19:12:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > \ > And there seem to be far too many people 'round here who take some joy in saying “kiddiefucker” or versions thereof. For all his “sins”, I don’t think I’ve seen \*\*Cesario \*\*go off at another poster like that once. Whether troll or real life pedophile, Cesario seems to have an excellent understanding of where the lines are so he can dance right up to them. This is not a compliment. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/271 "2010-02-07T19:13:36Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > If you want to learn anything about a pedophile or a sexual deviant, there are much better ways to go about it. If you think that an “Ask the Pedo” thread is going to supply anything more than tired justifications, excuses, and rationalizations, you are very, very much mistaken. Do some actual research if you’re so curious about the actual psychology behind the desire to fuck children. I don’t think you can know beforehand what any potential thread will supply. I for one, can not think of a much better way to find out what goes on in the mind of a pedophile then by asking him direct questions in a SDMB thread. Reading books is fine, and could perhaps provide a lot more depth about the subject, but the information flow is strictly one-way. One of the best (yet still sometimes underrated or overlooked) aspects of the WWW is its interactive nature. You can’t ask a book a burning question that pops into your head as you’re reading it. With a direct Q and A with a pedophile here on the Dope, you can do just that. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/272 "2010-02-07T19:20:20Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > I don’t think you can know beforehand what any potential thread will supply. I for one, can not think of a much better way to find out what goes on in the mind of a pedophile then by asking him direct questions in a SDMB thread. Reading books is fine, and could perhaps provide a lot more depth about the subject, but the information flow is strictly one-way. > > One of the best (yet still sometimes underrated or overlooked) aspects of the WWW is its interactive nature. You can’t ask a book a burning question that pops into your head as you’re reading it. With a direct Q and A with a pedophile here on the Dope, you can do just that. At this point and in this situation, though, I don’t think it’s really worth it. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/273 "2010-02-07T19:22:20Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’m not convinced, when they post things like [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12078819&postcount=4)(just the most recent example, I’ve seen others.) I see those kinds of posts as baiting, no more, no less. No, that’s not baiting, that’s a preemptive "OMG, no, please, don’t let that fucker show up and get gross in here, pleasepleasepleasenonononono. I can see how you can get those mixed up, it’s apparently easy to do–y’know, the way a pedophile “knows” that the four year old is _really_ saying “fuck me, you handsome stud” when she, y’know, EXISTS WITHIN HIS LINE OF SIGHT. > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > I don’t think you can know beforehand what any potential thread will supply. I for one, can not think of a much better way to find out what goes on in the mind of a pedophile then by asking him direct questions in a SDMB thread. Reading books is fine, and could perhaps provide a lot more depth about the subject, but the information flow is strictly one-way. > > One of the best (yet still sometimes underrated or overlooked) aspects of the WWW is its interactive nature. You can’t ask a book a burning question that pops into your head as you’re reading it. With a direct Q and A with a pedophile here on the Dope, you can do just that. If you really want to know, man up and go look up your local child sexual abusers mandatory counselling group. It’s not difficult to get permission to sit in on sessions, since the people in the group are convicted felons and don’t get the luxury of being able to not answer questions regarding their crimes. If you really want to know, go sit face to face with those nasty fuckers and ask your goddamned oh-so-important questions. Yeah, it’ll be a little nasty for you when they start adjusting their trousers as they answer questions, but you DID want to know, right? Might as well get the full effect rather than sheltering behind a message board interface. Get right up there and smell its panties, metaphorically speaking. ---
**Author:** ![Dusty\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ba8739/32.png) [@Dusty\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dusty_Rose)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/274 "2010-02-07T19:24:41Z")
Besides the fact that there are perv boards all over the Internet. I believe Cesario has even named a couple. If you want to learn all about pedo’s straight from a pedo, seems like that would be the place to start. ---
**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/275 "2010-02-07T19:34:13Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > I don’t think you can know beforehand what any potential thread will supply. I for one, can not think of a much better way to find out what goes on in the mind of a pedophile then by asking him direct questions in a SDMB thread. Reading books is fine, and could perhaps provide a lot more depth about the subject, but the information flow is strictly one-way. > > One of the best (yet still sometimes underrated or overlooked) aspects of the WWW is its interactive nature. You can’t ask a book a burning question that pops into your head as you’re reading it. With a direct Q and A with a pedophile here on the Dope, you can do just that. Also, you can look at Cesario’s profile to see his prior posts. There’s a thread that’s a few months old (re: have you ever/attraction to underage persons) in which he extensively describes his views advocating legalization of pedophilia. He offers this viewpoint in other threads, too. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/276 "2010-02-07T19:36:13Z")
> [@xash](#): > > On review, **Cesario** ’s request has been denied. > > This decision was not based on the topic of the thread, but on the poster’s posting history in regards to this topic. > > - **xash** > Administrator I concur in the result, though I dissent in the rationale. I, for one, have no problem with ruling the proposed topic one of the few things that are not allowed here. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/277 "2010-02-07T19:40:40Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > No, that’s not baiting, that’s a preemptive "OMG, no, please, don’t let that fucker show up and get gross in here, pleasepleasepleasenonononono. Right. Sure. Whatever you say. No rubberneckers here, sure.:rolleyes: If you don’t want him in a thread, don’t invoke him. Anyway, I found his contribution relevant and informative, actually. There wasn’t \*anything \*prurient about it. > [@](#): > > I can see how you can get those mixed up, it’s apparently easy to do–y’know, the way a pedophile “knows” that the four year old is _really_ saying “fuck me, you handsome stud” when she, y’know, EXISTS WITHIN HIS LINE OF SIGHT. Again with the kiddie fucking. You people sure do obsess about it… [QUOTE=Sidney Evgeni Jordan] Yeah, we are really lucky that we got a POLITE advocate for legalizing pedophilia. [/QUOTE] For \*my \*message board experience, I’d rather read **Cesario** , or a \*polite \*StormFronter, or a \*polite \*Fundie, or a \*polite \*… I dunno, Anti-Semite or whatever, than a continuous barrage of “kiddie fucker” this and “fucks babies and kids” that and “jump in front of a train, you sick fuck” the other. The former I can take or leave, as abhorrent as their arguments may be, it doesn’t actually ruin my message board experience. The latter, are just like an annoying buzz in my ear - I ignore what they’re trying to say and just see the bile spewed. And no, I can’t just ignore them, because I do actually want to read the meat of the thread and they are involved in that. Now, I’m not against a good swear or several, in the Pit, but all the kiddie fucking in a thread where, quite frankly, that language isn’t necessary to argue a point, is, well, juvenile. I get it, people are angry and they want to show their anger, but hey, silly me to think it’d be better to just say “this makes me angry” rather than competing over who’s Outragier-Than-Thou. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/278 "2010-02-07T19:42:21Z")
[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:264, topic:527906”] I notice how quick you are to accuse the mods and admins of being disingenuous, but then you post something like this. There are threads about illegal drugs _all the time_. You can’t specifically ask for help breaking the law (e.g., “Where can I score some acid in Atlanta?”), but discussing the drugs themselves is fine. You should also understand the concept that if you’ve racked up a pile of warnings, the next one (even if it’s for something which is not, by itself, ban-worthy) can get you suspended or banned. [/QUOTE] If those are the rules, then why was Claude Remains suspended while Cesario isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/279 "2010-02-07T19:47:46Z")
It was recently made crystal clear to me that a poster need not break any specific rule to be moderated on this board. They simply have to “be a jerk”. If “being a jerk” isn’t covering relishing and expounding upon the diddling of children, then I am very very very confused as to what “being a jerk” really is. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/280 "2010-02-07T20:03:48Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > By allowing Cesario to have a thread as suggested in the OP, is that not defacto sanctioning by TPTB? I would opine that were **Cesario** allowed to start such a thread it would be not so much be a _de facto_ sanctioning by TPTB, but an _explicit_ one. And that’s a good thing. Because what they would be sanctioning would be that any properly-moderated and appropriately civil discussion concerning any topic which does not violate the Board’s rules is welcome here. * * * _“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”_ --attributed to Voltaire [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906.md?page=15)