# On an "Ask the Pedophile" thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906>\
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**Created:** [February 6, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906 "2010-02-06T04:34:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/321 "2010-02-08T00:52:25Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> He didn’t say so, **Giraffe** , as far as I know, so I should have phrased that differently. My apologies.

Fair enough. I wasn’t trying to nitpick – given that it’s my primary problem with him, I’d have felt pretty dumb if he stated he planned to reign himself in before I Pitted him for not doing so.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/322 "2010-02-08T01:02:53Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> No, it isn’t what people are saying, which is how we got here. Look at the title of this thread again.

I’ve seen the thread title. Look at the entire thread again, and the 105 other threads about it. The issue is not a pedophile discussing his illness; it’s our boy **Cesspool** over there receiving more attention for his stomach-churning behavior, that is, bringing up every 28 seconds how wrongly persecuted he is for wanting to fuck everything in diapers.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/323 "2010-02-08T01:06:57Z")

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Well, then I apologize for taking you at your word when you said that the issue was the part of **ivn** ’s quote that you responded to.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/324 "2010-02-08T01:07:17Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Like I said, ban him for that, **just like any other user**. Should be easy if he’s had multiple warnings. Unfortunately for your, er, point, a lot of other folks just want him gone cause he’s skeezy. Those people are wrong.

Except that there’s always been an “ick factor” rule. Being skeezy falls under that.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/325 "2010-02-08T01:10:48Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Except that there’s always been an “ick factor” rule. Being skeezy falls under that.

How is it possible to miss the point by so much? We don’t _need_ a “rule”. The SDMB can just ban anyone, at any time, for any reason. Period.

The question is if it’s appropriate to do so. And I think it’s inappropriate in this case.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/326 "2010-02-08T01:19:13Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> And I think it’s inappropriate in this case.

Good thing you’re not in charge, then.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/327 "2010-02-08T01:31:30Z")

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Never mind.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/328 "2010-02-08T01:37:55Z")

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You guys do understand what trolling is, right? A good troll is not going to break the rules, because that would mean he’d have a harder time trolling.

I don’t think anyone was wanting to get rid of Cesario because he is a pedophile. It’s because he is an annoying pedophile who likes to stir up shit about it where it shouldn’t be discussed. And I don’t believe for one moment he didn’t know exactly what would happen when he put his request in ATMB. He practically admitted it in his response to me. The only thing he’s worried about is whether he can handle the insults. He’s perfectly fine knowing it will stir up all kinds of shit.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/329 "2010-02-08T02:48:58Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> You guys do understand what trolling is, right? A good troll is not going to break the rules, because that would mean he’d have a harder time trolling.
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> I don’t think anyone was wanting to get rid of Cesario because he is a pedophile. It’s because he is an annoying pedophile who likes to stir up shit about it where it shouldn’t be discussed. And I don’t believe for one moment he didn’t know exactly what would happen when he put his request in ATMB. He practically admitted it in his response to me. The only thing he’s worried about is whether he can handle the insults. He’s perfectly fine knowing it will stir up all kinds of shit.

In other words, regardless of whether or not he is a pedophile, he is a troll.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/330 "2010-02-08T02:53:36Z")

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I think there is a big difference between talking about being attracted to children, and continually saying in unrelated threads that even though it is illegal you would have sex with children given the opportunity.

Cesario does the second, thus should be banned.

Hypothetically, a pedophile who only does the first might be able to have a thread about it.

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**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/331 "2010-02-08T03:45:16Z")

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> [@Carmady](#):
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> I think there is a big difference between talking about being attracted to children, and continually saying in unrelated threads that even though it is illegal you would have sex with children given the opportunity.
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> Cesario does the second, thus should be banned.
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> Hypothetically, a pedophile who only does the first might be able to have a thread about it.

Clearly I haven’t been participating in **enough** threads recently, since people seem to be assuming false things about my viewpoints based on hearsay and rumors.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/332 "2010-02-08T03:47:04Z")

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> [@Cesario](#):
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> Clearly I haven’t been participating in **enough** threads recently, since people seem to be assuming false things about my viewpoints based on hearsay and rumors.

Is this not your post?

Or did you not realize what you said you would do is illegal?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11564485&postcount=55](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11564485&postcount=55)

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**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/333 "2010-02-08T03:58:21Z")

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> [@Carmady](#):
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> Is this not your post?
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> Or did you not realize what you said you would do is illegal?
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11564485&postcount=55](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11564485&postcount=55)

The entire point of that post is that the damage had already been done. I was a criminal long before I had the chance to realize that was the case, and any harm done to her had likewise already been done.

This was covered in that thread. Did you actually read it?

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/334 "2010-02-08T04:07:06Z")

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> [@Cesario](#):
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> The entire point of that post is that the damage had already been done. I was a criminal long before I had the chance to realize that was the case, and any harm done to her had likewise already been done.

That isn’t how the law works.

“Well judge, I figured the damage had already been done, so that gave me carte blanche to commit whatever crimes I felt like committing.”

Are you seriously arguing you didn’t know that your described actions were illegal?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/335 "2010-02-08T04:07:16Z")

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I never sleep without my trusty knife in my hand. I also suffer from sleep seizures. If one day I awoke and found that I had impaled some random dude with my knife, I’d go ahead and keep stabbing him because whatever damage might happen had already occurred and it’s my only chance for guilt-free murder.

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**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/336 "2010-02-08T04:32:10Z")

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> [@Carmady](#):
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> That isn’t how the law works.
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> “Well judge, I figured the damage had already been done, so that gave me carte blanche to commit whatever crimes I felt like committing.”
> 
> Are you seriously arguing you didn’t know that your described actions were illegal?

I’m arguing that the scenario is so ludicrous as to be unthinkably unlikely in real life, but yes, in that situation, I described my view on the moral character of the situation. My reasoning was described and argued in that thread. Were it not for the bans on thread necromancy, I’d advise you go to argue those comments in that thread where they belong and where the rest of the context of the argument is present.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/337 "2010-02-08T04:34:15Z")

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That’s all well and good but if you’re trapped in a burning car should your five year old lover shoot you or the acidic glue about to mix with chemical B and create Hitler?

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**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/338 "2010-02-08T04:36:27Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> That’s all well and good but if you’re trapped in a burning car should your five year old lover shoot you or the acidic glue about to mix with chemical B and create Hitler?

I’m thinking shooting Hitler is always a good idea.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/339 "2010-02-08T04:39:49Z")

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Tsk, tsk. Shooting hitler always results in an alternate history that turns the earth into a demonic dictatorship with the destruction of WW2 multiplied a hundredfold. You need to bone up on your hypothetical skills.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/340 "2010-02-08T04:42:59Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> I never sleep without my trusty knife in my hand. I also suffer from sleep seizures. If one day I awoke and found that I had impaled some random dude with my knife, I’d go ahead and keep stabbing him because whatever damage might happen had already occurred and it’s my only chance for guilt-free murder.

Ah, the creed of the stabbin’ hobo. Friend, if ever you came by my house, you’d see the sign of the cat traced on the fencepost.

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