# On an "Ask the Pedophile" thread **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 6, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906 "2010-02-06T04:34:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/61 "2010-02-06T19:21:29Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > 1. Why not just refrain from reading his thread and go read something you enjoy? > > 2. Should we preemptively ban discussions of certain subject matters based upon pure speculation about the OP’s motives? > > 3. There are other opportunities to learn about all kinds of things people discuss here, but people discuss them here anyway. All of this is absolutely true, which is why I am so ambivalent about the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/62 "2010-02-06T19:22:49Z")
My point has been made. I hope SDMB does the right thing. I don’t care about the OP or pedo desires. I object to quashing discussion on sensitive topics because an unruly mob can’t handle it. Good luck in that regard, OP. Gotta go. ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/63 "2010-02-06T19:23:44Z")
Having an “Ask the Pedophile” thread is something I wouldn’t necessarily be against. However, having an “Ask the Attention Whore Who Consistently Derails Each And Every Conversation Regarding Children Yet Is Cagey Enough to Avoid Getting Banned” thread – not so much. Just sayin’ is all. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/64 "2010-02-06T19:23:52Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > If you’re going to look at the past decisions by the mods, **EvilCaptor** was advised that he was not allowed to introduce his fetishy feelings of bondage into any thread that wasn’t already about bondage. I believe he was also told not to start any more threads about the subject, but I certainly am not positive about that one. > > So they preemptively banned a poster from bringing up a subject matter in the past, why is this poster or his sickness so different? That’s actually something I was considering when I posted my response above. In that particular situation, the fetish was restricted to appropriate (however that was defined) areas, and not allowed to be introduced ad nauseum (which was the prior case). Perhaps this could be the compromise here? The OP could be allowed to discuss his sexual preference in a thread for such discussion, but would be restricted from introducing it in other and more tangential areas? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/65 "2010-02-06T20:09:13Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > The whole idea of someone who identifies as a pedophile having his own thread skeeves me out. The whole idea of someone so judgmental that they want to clamp down on people for who they are is scarier than the thought that someone is attracted to children. Much scarier. Who knows who their next target of thought crime will be? ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/66 "2010-02-06T20:18:51Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > The whole idea of someone so judgmental that they want to clamp down on people for who they are is scarier than the thought that someone is attracted to children. Much scarier. Who knows who their next target of thought crime will be? You’re not saying that the problem is the skeeve part, but the reluctance to allow the thread part, right? Because we ARE allowed to be skeeved out by pedophilia. Whether or not we do something about that reaction, it’s pretty normal to be disgusted by someone who is sexually aroused by the thought of raping a child. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/67 "2010-02-06T20:19:12Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Who knows who their next target of thought crime will be? First they came for the pedophiles? ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/68 "2010-02-06T20:19:59Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > The whole idea of someone so judgmental that they want to clamp down on people for who they are is scarier than the thought that someone is attracted to children. Much scarier. Who knows who their next target of thought crime will be? My God, this place is as intolerant of any place I know, despite protests to the contrary. People of the wrong political or religious persuasion(to name the Big Two) are often hounded till they leave, often with official escort. Even then, there are many, many instances in which a community may wish to practice valid intolerance. If ever there was an argument for _intolerance_ here, this guys makes the case. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/69 "2010-02-06T20:40:45Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > The whole idea of someone so judgmental that they want to clamp down on people for who they are is scarier than the thought that someone is attracted to children. Much scarier. Who knows who their next target of thought crime will be? WAY over the top. In case you missed the memo, this is a message board, not the real world and nobody is being “clamped down on” here. The fact that some of us would rather not have a potential kiddie diddler having their own thread isn’t any of what you wrote. This thread is an absolutely perfect example of the kind of polarizing horseshit an “Ask The Pedophile” thread will be. Let’s not pretend, btw, that we have any say about it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/70 "2010-02-06T20:48:03Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Let’s not pretend, btw, that we have any say about it anyway. Sure you do. He starts the thread, you refuse to repond to thread, and thread dies. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/71 "2010-02-06T20:48:54Z")
Whether or not this proposed thread would work would be an excellent test of all of us, posters and moderators, and whether or not we can remain civil and reasonable even in the face of something we find personally repulsive. It is a simple matter. Someone is afflicted with a mental condition, one which he can do nothing about whatsoever. Other people want to ask him questions about what it is like to have to live life this way. People ask straightforward questions; he answers them. If this works like it should, we will all gain a lot of valuable information about the psychology of a pedophile; the same way it is important to learn about the psychology of all people, including sexual deviants. We will also be able to prove to ourselves that we can preserve our ability to discuss and analyze anything, no matter how transgressive and out-there it might be, and still treat each other like human beings. Any insulting comments would be warned or removed by moderators, just like they should be in any thread. If a thread like this failed, that says something about all of us, and it’s not a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/72 "2010-02-06T20:54:04Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Sure you do. He starts the thread, you refuse to repond to thread, and thread dies. No we don’t. You and the other mods decide whether he gets to have a thread. It doesn’t matter what any of us say in THIS thread. Don’t you have some clamping down to do in IMHO? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/73 "2010-02-06T21:01:47Z")
I don’t think the thread failing is all about us, though. I mean, if the pedophile in question is apologetic, more or less, and wishes they didn’t have to be that way…that’s one thing. But if they talk about how age of consent laws are BS and restricting to children because in theory young people CAN consent even if the OP hasn’t yet met one, and how they would refrain from molesting because of fear of getting caught, not due to fear of hurting the kid or doing something wrong…that’s another. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/74 "2010-02-06T21:06:43Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Well shit guys, **it’s not like he’s such a deviant that he did some heinous thing like vandalizing Wikipedia**! He’s just an innocent ol pedo who wants to allow kids to be fucked by adults if they can give their consent. > > Gosh, what’s to dislike? The SDMB has _standards_, madam. Somebody reading a vandalized Wiki page might be fooled into believing that the elephant is an extinct species, which is absolutely beyond the pale. But we can _learn_ from a pedo. Think of all the things we could learn about the desire to rape children! Think of what an educational experience it can be for _all_ of us when he describes how he fantasizes about the four year old who was showing signs of enjoying his company before her evil mother pulled her away (I mean, he’s already described that once for our reading pleasure, but maybe some of the members are still ignorant about what a rotten bitch the mother was). ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/75 "2010-02-06T21:15:28Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > If this works like it should, we will all gain a lot of valuable information about the psychology of a pedophile; the same way it is important to learn about the psychology of all people, including sexual deviants. If you want to learn anything about a pedophile or a sexual deviant, there are much better ways to go about it. If you think that an “Ask the Pedo” thread is going to supply anything more than tired justifications, excuses, and rationalizations, you are very, very much mistaken. Do some actual research if you’re so curious about the actual psychology behind the desire to fuck children. There are plenty of clinical studies in peer reviewed journals out there. You could get some actual information that way, instead of the litany of cliches you will inevitably get from somebody who is trying to normalize his deviance. > [@](#): > > If a thread like this failed, that says something about all of us, and it’s not a good thing. I think _this_ thread is saying plenty of not-so-good-things about some of its participants. Interesting how one can read into posts, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/76 "2010-02-06T21:30:46Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > If someone wants to start a discussion and people want to partake within the rules, have at it. If you don’t like the topic, don’t partake. Go find a thread you like. If the discussion gets out of hand, well, that’s why we have mods. > > What’s the issue here? Sheesh! This is really all the discussion that needs to be done about it. There’s no issue here. Assuming we are talking about someone here who is not going to discuss how to do anything illegal, the thread should be allowed. How did this “I don’t like it so nobody should see it” attitude get so pervasive? **If you don’t like something, are offended by it , are grossed out about, or any other thing, DON’T READ IT.** This is why I tried to get a system installed on the board so threads can be ignored, not just people. Don’t like a thread here? Ignore it, STFU, and let everybody else read it. If you use Firefox, and simply seeing the title of this hypothetical thread or any other is just too much for you, you can use this extension: [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7023](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7023) Among other things, you can ignore threads with it. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/77 "2010-02-06T22:22:29Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > Do some actual research if you’re so curious about the actual psychology behind the desire to fuck children. There are plenty of clinical studies in peer reviewed journals out there. You could get some actual information that way, instead of the litany of cliches you will inevitably get from somebody who is trying to normalize his deviance. We should understand _why_ and _how_ they try to normalize their deviance; we should also be able to ask all kinds of questions that it takes another person to answer. I could come up with 10 of them in a few minutes. You can read all kinds of scientific studies or whatever to do your research on it, but there is nothing like actually communicating with someone first hand. (Remember, those researchers and scientists who compiled the data about pedophilia did so by _talking to pedophiles_ - right?) I’m not trying to start a great crusade for opening dialog with pedophiles specifically or something - I’m trying to make an overall point. There is nothing to lose, and only things to gain, from talking to other human beings about their individual experiences and ideas - and as long as those people can express themselves _articulately_ and _civilly_, and as long as no laws are being violated, they should be allowed to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/78 "2010-02-06T22:22:53Z")
I started to write a post about my feelings but it became inappropriately insulting for ATMB, so I [started a Pit thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551058) instead. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/79 "2010-02-06T22:27:34Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Assuming we are talking about someone here who is not going to discuss how to do anything illegal, the thread should be allowed. It isn’t just him talking about his sickness, he also advocates (as he has done in many threads) how the law should be changed. He explains how for all children (even in his preferred 0-10 age) should be allowed to give consent for him to fuck them if they can pass a test to prove they are capable of giving consent. This isn’t someone who has posted about how they struggle with this illness and how they want to be rehabilitated. This is someone who wants to find legal ways to fuck children. Shall we go to Stormfront and see if we can get someone to come do an “Ask the Guy Who Longs to Lynch and Makes His Own Homemade Ropes” so he can tell us about how much he liked living before the civil rights movement or a “Ask the Gal Who Wants to Start Her Own Bergen-Belsen and Has Been Researching the Best Means of Body Disposal”? I mean, shit…we can study their hatred and find out a lot about them! It’s been mentioned earlier in the thread how this board has treated religious folks and, hot damn, there are people here who seem to have more respect for the kiddie diddler. Also, I am _glad_ he got his recent warning about bringing his sick fuck bullshit into other threads. Nothing like reading a thread about flirting and see somebody telling us how a child pulling her dress up was flirting with him. If **EvilCaptor** got warned for talking about bondage in inappropriate threads he should absolutely be told to STFU about his BS in other threads. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/80 "2010-02-06T22:32:07Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I started to write a post about my feelings but it became inappropriately insulting for ATMB, so I [started a Pit thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551058) instead. I think you have expressed a very valid point there. So I think one catch-all thread for this guy to speak about his ideas and opinions would be fine, and maybe there could be a rule that he would have to limit his discussions of his sexual feelings to that one thread and not insert them elsewhere. I do not believe in running away from things because they are transgressive or disgusting, but that’s just my opinion. Others have the choice not to expose themselves to these things, and last time I checked there was an ignore function if one poster’s ideas are truly repellent enough to want to block out completely. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906.md?page=5)