# On an "Ask the Pedophile" thread **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 6, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906 "2010-02-06T04:34:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/141 "2010-02-07T04:35:43Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > These two are the same thing. > > It’s a damned shame that otherwise allegedly rational people support the idea of letting an admitted Pedophile have sanctioned place to spew. This just doesn’t make any sense. Very little of this whole kerfuffle makes much sense to me in terms of the objective compared to the means employed to reach that objective, but I’m just talking on a basic logical level here. “Sanctioned place to spew,” so far as I can tell, means letting him start a thread where he can be subjected to examination by people who detest him. Or does it mean just failing to ban him? Obviously everybody thinks **Cesario** is either mentally ill or a troll. If he’s a troll, that’s one thing, but this debate assumes that he isn’t, for the most part. Why exactly is it such an especially irrational notion to you that I might say the guy should be able to talk about the way he’s screwed up, as an entirely separate question from whether I think he _is_ screwed up? How does it make any sense that the only two choices are 1. pedophilia is bad or 2. **Cesario** can start a thread? Why are those the options? How is this a special case that goes against like thousands of years of general philosophical musings about the difference between thinking horribly unpopular things and _doing_ horribly unpopular things? You people understand that him being allowed to start a thread isn’t going to actually rape any children, right? And that, for one thing, he’s already said that he doesn’t actually do that? And that banning him outright, or preventing him from posting anything other than computer programming talk won’t actually cure the world of any pedophilia. Right? Again, can somebody tell me what the precise harm is here, and how exactly it differs from a different form of social leprosy, many of which are frequent grist for the mill around here? It’s just the theoretical kiddies, and that’s all there is to it? Because from where I’m sitting, kicking the guy out does much to allow you to ignore the problem, but doesn’t do a damn thing one way or the other about the problem itself. Are you afraid he’s going to like convince people, or what? > [@Muffin](#): > > If you have Cesario’s IP address or some other identifier, then report him in his jurisdiction. Give me his IP or other identifier and I will be glad to report him. For WHAT, for like the fourth time? ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/142 "2010-02-07T04:40:30Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > I hope that I can remember that if the pedophile posts in the Pit, I must not tell him to “fuck off” because that would be uncivil. Good on you. God forbid you fall victim to, well, let’s just say a decent human beings reaction, to something as completely disgusting and completley wrong, and well, what the hell, human being damaging, piece of garbages point of view. I’m getting the vapors just imagining it. Among other feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/143 "2010-02-07T04:41:34Z")
My intent isn’t to discourage them from speaking out. I’m pointing out the moderating issue here: we can’t moderate someone for bringing up an unwelcome topic if people are constantly inviting him to bring up the subject - which has been the case here. Once **Cesario** established his favorite topic here, his habit was to enter a thread on a related subject, state his opinion, and wait for someone else to say something like “you would say that, you’re a pedophile.” At which point someone else has raised the subject and he gets a platform. And then we can then tell everyone to drop it (and have done so at times), but I’d rather get people to stop giving him the opening. Because it’s not usually “molesting children it’s wrong” or a moral statement, it’s “you have ulterior motives for your political views.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/144 "2010-02-07T04:46:00Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > These two are the same thing. > > It’s a damned shame that otherwise allegedly rational people support the idea of letting an admitted Pedophile have sanctioned place to spew. It’s a damned shame that otherwise allegedly rational people support the idea of giving an admitted Pedophile the attention he desires. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/145 "2010-02-07T04:49:05Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > If you have Cesario’s IP address or some other identifier, then report him in his jurisdiction. Give me his IP or other identifier and I will be glad to report him. Absolutely not. As much as you wish mob rule to triumph here, you have yet to explain what you are reporting him _for_. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/146 "2010-02-07T04:52:56Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > For WHAT, for like the fourth time? For admitting he has impure thoughts that upset people, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/147 "2010-02-07T04:56:03Z")
**Cesario** opens a thread to ask whether he can open another thread called “Ask the Pedophile,” but it’s other posters who are inviting him to bring up the subject? :dubious: I’ve deliberately avoided **Cesario** for the most part, but I have certainly seen him introduce the topic of pedophilia into multiple threads that started out on other topics (and I typically stop reading when that happens). But I can’t really blame other posters for responding when he brings up the topic. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/148 "2010-02-07T04:58:48Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It’s a damned shame that otherwise allegedly rational people support the idea of giving an admitted Pedophile the attention he desires. “Otherwise rational” is allowed in ATMB. Good to know. That aside, in post #52 of this very thread, you pointed out that > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Nice theory that I support wholly…but [completely ignoring people who are trying to provoke a board] has never worked in real life. For what it’s worth, I agree with your first opinion on the issue, not your second, contradictory one. “Do not feed the trolls” has never, ever, _ever_ worked in the entire history of the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/149 "2010-02-07T05:03:34Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I don’t think that’s a fair reading of that quote. He doesn’t say the terms are offensive to Dopers, and many people afterward said they weren’t that offended by them. I read it as ‘I don’t want members to be subjected to that,’ not ‘members are offended by it.’ But he has no problem with members being “subjected to” a would-be kiddy diddler telling everyone how the world persecutes him? Most members have told him that they don’t give a shit about being called “motherfucking cuntragging cumlicking dickbarns” or whatever. However, we HAVE said we don’t want some pedophile talking about how the law should change so that he can be permitted to indulge in child rape. But that falls on deaf ears. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/150 "2010-02-07T05:07:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It’s a damned shame that otherwise allegedly rational people support the idea of giving an admitted Pedophile the attention he desires. We’re not the one who’s going to let him start an “ask the pedophile” are we? And let’s not pretend it won’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/151 "2010-02-07T05:07:47Z")
I notice **Cesario** has not been back to this thread in about 24 hours. While I generally defend his position that free speech should rule the day, I have to wonder about his motives here in light of his lack of participation. Accordingly, I am done with this thread, at least until the OP returns to defend his own position. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/152 "2010-02-07T05:08:31Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > If you have Cesario’s IP address or some other identifier, then report him in his jurisdiction. Give me his IP or other identifier and I will be glad to report him. Report him to who? Report him for what? Repugnant as Cesario’s statements are to you, he has actually broken no law. If you think I am kidding you, I suggest you call your local precinct and ask to speak to a sex crimes detective. Ask them what the situation is. They’re going to tell you that no crime has been committed and there is nothing they can do. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/153 "2010-02-07T05:08:32Z")
Guin and others, forget it. It’s in one ear and out the other around here. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/154 "2010-02-07T05:10:21Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Guin and others, forget it. > > It’s in one ear and out the other around here. Speaking of which, I’d really appreciate an answer to my question, that being what’s the harm, exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/155 "2010-02-07T05:10:57Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Guin and others, forget it. > > It’s in one ear and out the other around here. Oh, it comes out, all right – but I wouldn’t say it’s the EAR. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/156 "2010-02-07T05:12:14Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > “Otherwise rational” is allowed in ATMB. Good to know. It was in reference to post #135. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/157 "2010-02-07T05:33:44Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Report him to who? > > Report him for what? > > Repugnant as Cesario’s statements are to you, he has actually broken no law. > > If you think I am kidding you, I suggest you call your local precinct and ask to speak to a sex crimes detective. Ask them what the situation is. > > They’re going to tell you that no crime has been committed and there is nothing they can do. Although I agree with you that there is nothing that can be done, I can’t tell you how delicious this post is coming from y-o-u. Seriously, I feel like it’s my birthday and Christmas all rolled into one as far as message board posts. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/158 "2010-02-07T05:48:56Z")
Anyone wanna help me compile a list of prohibited and condoned activities on the SDMB? So far I’ve got: NO NO’s Talking about Vandalizing Wikipedia Talking about Illegal Drugs General Sniping FINE Talking about kiddy diddling What else we got? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/159 "2010-02-07T05:53:20Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > It’s a damned shame that otherwise allegedly rational people support the idea of letting an admitted Pedophile have sanctioned place to spew. I’m not sure who you believe the proposed thread would be “sanctioned” by. Is it your view that every OP here is “sanctioned” by this person/entity? I’ve never heard this view expressed before and I find it curious. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906/160 "2010-02-07T05:55:59Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Anyone wanna help me compile a list of prohibited and condoned activities on the SDMB? So far I’ve got: > > NO NO’s > Talking about Vandalizing Wikipedia > Talking about Illegal Drugs > General Sniping > FINE > Talking about kiddy diddling > > What else we got? Talking about “kiddy diddling” is _not_ fine. This would be discussion of the commission of an illegal activity and so would definitely be a violation of the rules, no question. People are acting as if a crime has already been committed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-an-ask-the-pedophile-thread/527906.md?page=9)