# On election Eve, Freepers hit a new low **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946 "2008-11-03T23:49:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/41 "2008-11-04T02:41:44Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > In all fairness, I have seen equally foul slanders posted on DailyKos and Democratic Underground. This excuses nothing on Free Republic or Little Green Footballs, of course. The nutroots on either side are pretty pathetic. Equally foul. That McCain killed his grandmother. OK, I’ll bite. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/42 "2008-11-04T03:09:45Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > **Derleth** - If things go really south for the Republicans, it will be the hard-core far-rights who are the “third party.” Having that group marginalized is A Good Thing. They’re already there, in the form of the Constitution/America First Party, and perhaps this election will drive a few present Republicans off the cliff and into that ideological cesspool. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/43 "2008-11-04T03:20:57Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > My grandmother died about two hours ago. My sympathy. * * * I’m fairly bewildered by people who believe that politicians would murder a dear relative for political gain. Do they believe this because that is what _they_ would do? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/44 "2008-11-04T03:22:44Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > In all fairness, I have seen equally foul slanders posted on DailyKos and Democratic Underground. This excuses nothing on Free Republic or Little Green Footballs, of course. The nutroots on either side are pretty pathetic. I already called this one on another thread (the McCain forked thread). We were talking about members of the GOP sending false information to try to suppress the vote. **Rickjay** ’s question was: > [@](#): > > How can a person who believes in democracy support a party that so openly and brazenly tries to cheat people out of their right to vote? My answer was: > [@](#): > > 1. They’ll find an isolated incident where something vaguely similar happened once to a republican voter, years ago, and claim that there is complete equivalency. Do I still win a prize, even though my prediction is from another thread? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/45 "2008-11-04T03:24:37Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > My sympathy. > > * * * > > I’m fairly bewildered by people who believe that politicians would murder a dear relative for political gain. Do they believe this because that is what _they_ would do? I think there is a considerable amount of projection occurring in the more hateful portion of the right-of-center spectrum. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/46 "2008-11-04T03:40:42Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I was watching a documentary about Barry Goldwater this morning (as much as I disagreed with his politics, I have to admit, I find him a fascinating individual). These people make him look like Tip O’Neill! At the very least, I think these people’d scare the shit out of him. You’re more right than you may know. > [@](#): > > Being Barry Goldwater’s granddaughter and living in Arizona, one would assume that I would be voting for our state’s senator, John McCain. > > . . . > > **Myself, along with my siblings and a few cousins, will not be supporting the Republican presidential candidates this year. We believe strongly in what our grandfather stood for: honesty, integrity, and personal freedom, free from political maneuvering and fear tactics.** > > . . . > > [T]he Republican brand has been tarnished in a shameless effort to gain votes and appeal to the lowest emotion, fear. **Nothing about McCain, except for maybe a uniform, compares to the same ideology of what Goldwater stood for as a politician.** > > . . . > > When you see the candidate’s in political ads, you can’t help but be reminded of the 1964 presidential campaign of Johnson/Goldwater, the ‘origin of spin’, that twists the truth and obscures what really matters. Nothing about the Republican ticket offers the hope America needs to regain it’s standing in the world, that’s why we’re going to support Barack Obama. I think that Obama has shown his ability and integrity. > > . . . > > [Why McCain Has Lost Our Vote | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cc-goldwater/why-mccain-has-lost-our-v_b_137150.html) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/47 "2008-11-04T04:01:14Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Not with the first-past-the-post, winner-take-all system we have now. See [Duverger’s law](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger's_Law) for a more in-depth analysis of this, but the only thing a large third party could do with the system we have is spoil the election for one of the two main parties. If you want America to have viable third parties you have to push for a reform in our voting system because it is guaranteed that nothing else will be sufficient. Britain also has a first-past-the-post system, and a viable third party. That said, the electoral college does ensure that no third party candidate will be President. Those people are fucking insane, BTW. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/48 "2008-11-04T04:10:19Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > In all fairness, I have seen equally foul slanders posted on DailyKos and Democratic Underground. This excuses nothing on Free Republic or Little Green Footballs, of course. The nutroots on either side are pretty pathetic. Calling **SmartAleq**! Please take care of this fuckwad asshole. I’m too shaking with anger and I’m not NEAR enough articlulate enough to tell him what kind of hell he belongs in. For now, I’ll just say, fuck you **BrotherCadfael** and the rest of your ilk. Enjoy tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/49 "2008-11-04T04:14:41Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > I HATE it when liberals lump me in with the neanderthals, but in all honesty, I can’t blame them for doing so. Well, I would not lump you in with them, but unfortunately, they are part of your “base”, and any presidential candidate for the Republicans must pander to them to get elected. If you don’t mind these people setting your agenda, even though you despise them, well… ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/50 "2008-11-04T04:32:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > **Drain** , you provided a direct link to the Freepers without any “Shields Up!” advisory, or any suggestions for anti-cootie protocols. > > Whatzamatta you? There are some very young and impressionable Puppy Dopers out there, who haven’t yet formed the psychic chitin to endure such horror. And some of them take drugs! > > A bit of caution, sir, a bit of caution! Oh, don’t worry. The formatting is so incomprehensibly shitty that I couldn’t make out more than a spittle-flecked sentence or two. It’s kinda like the ancient martial arts of the internet - by the time you’ve mastered enough of the website to kill your brain with your bare eyeballs, you’re wise enough not to. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/51 "2008-11-04T05:11:13Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > In all fairness, I have seen equally foul slanders posted on DailyKos and Democratic Underground. This excuses nothing on Free Republic or Little Green Footballs, of course. The nutroots on either side are pretty pathetic. Hey, you pathetic, slimy little buttfucking turdburgling snotgargling cumguzzling excrescence who disgraces with every breath the character you stole your username from–you’ve been challenged for a cite of ANYTHING as disgusting and reprehensible from DailyKos or DU. Either find something or fuck right the hell off, you fucking troll. Fucking scumbag… Those shitbags are outright saying that an honorable man who’s done nothing to them aside from disagreeing, politely I might add, with their political views has KILLED HIS 86 YEAR OLD, TERMINAL CANCER PATIENT GRANDMOTHER, a woman he loved and honored all the days of his life, for some nebulous poisonous fantasy reason that infests the maggoty wormfarms they call their brains. Go ahead, fucknugget, FIND SOMETHING ON DKOS OR DU THAT’S AS FOUL AS THAT. I DARE you, I CHALLENGE you, either put up or shut up. What the fuck is wrong with you? I bet your mother is so proud… Pardon me, I need to shower. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/52 "2008-11-04T05:25:14Z")
Its not good to stifle your self-expression, even for the sake of Pit civility. Tell us how you really feel about this. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/53 "2008-11-04T05:40:39Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > In all fairness, I have seen equally foul slanders posted on DailyKos and Democratic Underground. In ALL fairness, all fairness would seem to require that you link to one from each of the websites you have mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/54 "2008-11-04T05:46:35Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > In ALL fairness, all fairness would seem to require that you link to one from each of the websites you have mentioned. I’m still waiting for Magiver to cite where" the Governor of Hawaii sealed Obama’s birth certificate until one day after the election". It seems to be standard operating procedure for these scumbags to pull shit out of their asses. You just know the asshole is pouring over archived Koss diaries looking for something, anything he can use. If he actually wasn’t talking out of his ass he would have cited it by now. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/55 "2008-11-04T06:00:02Z")
Oh, DKos comments, you’ll see some pretty rank stuff, like outdated tofu in the fridge. But nothing like Freeper stuff, which should carry bio-hazard tags. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/56 "2008-11-04T06:11:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, DKos comments, you’ll see some pretty rank stuff, like outdated tofu in the fridge. But nothing like Freeper stuff, which should carry bio-hazard tags. Yeah, but the majority of DKos regulars have trusted user status and can troll rate shitty comments and make them go away by popular opinion. I’ve seen winger trolls come over, wait their week making fairly innocuous comments until they’re eligible to post diaries, then post something scheisty–only to get hide rated, slapped around and in some cases banned in a matter of hours, if not minutes. There are days I wish for being able to hand out donuts around here… Oh, and **'luci?** Once again, you managed to clear the red fog from my vision with a blast of hearty giggles–thanks. I mean it, thought I was going to have an aneurysm there for a second. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/57 "2008-11-04T06:27:03Z")
Just to make a preemptive strike: DKos diarists and bloggers get their posts to appear in the main page when vetted or recommended by management or by many users. For the Brother here, finding the musings of a rotten poster there that is virtually never put in the front page and is usually [del]tarred[/del] tagged as dumb by other Kossacks may be easier to find but an stupid example to mention if their posts never appeared in the main page. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/58 "2008-11-04T06:40:52Z")
Seems unstructured, anarchic, and pretty darn smart. Reminds me of the Quaker tradition of seeking meeting consensus. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/59 "2008-11-04T06:55:41Z")
_bows to SmartAleq_ ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/60 "2008-11-04T08:14:25Z")
Yeah, DailyKos is pretty cool–trusted user status is gained only by participation. You have to comment and/or post diaries that are recommended by other members. It’s called “mojo” and nobody really knows how much mojo one needs to keep trusted user status. If you stop commenting and posting diaries, TU status will just quietly slip away until you become an active member again, WITHOUT pissing people off. Get a lot of hide ratings (also called troll ratings or donuts–a recommend is a plus four, a hide rating is a zero, a comment ends up with the average of all recs/hides as its overall mojo score) and that will also pull your TU status down. Trusted users can see troll comments and can troll rate comments as well. It’s all about cooperation and getting along–making your points without being a cunt. It’s quite possible to post dissenting opinions, even strongly dissenting opinions, but still remain unbanned and still having TU status, you just have to be fucking polite about it and back up your bullshit with some facts. Pretty similar rules to here, but everybody who cares enough to be an active participant can join in with modding the site. It works pretty well, actually. _Tips hat to **Equipoise** _ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946.md?page=4)