# On election Eve, Freepers hit a new low **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946 "2008-11-03T23:49:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/61 "2008-11-04T11:33:53Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > In all fairness, I have seen equally foul slanders posted on DailyKos and Democratic Underground. This excuses nothing on Free Republic or Little Green Footballs, of course. The nutroots on either side are pretty pathetic. As have I and no it doesn’t. Just that the Freepers tend to be the most prominant, and somehow the scariest. Maybe because they have guns.\* \*And no, that’s not a slam at gun owners. Just a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/62 "2008-11-04T11:40:19Z")
BTW, when I say I’ve seen “equally disturbing” I don’t mean, “McCain” killed his grandmother. Just that I left DU years ago after the Bush/Gore election-it got too weird for me. But they still don’t scare me like the Freepers do. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/63 "2008-11-04T13:35:48Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > In ALL fairness, all fairness would seem to require that you link to one from each of the websites you have mentioned. Just to draw some of the venom aimed at what was a pretty innocuous post, how about: [http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/9241/85282/359/579333](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/9241/85282/359/579333) “McCain Fortune Has Ties To Unsolved Murder” or from the US Liberal groups at about: [http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&webtag=ab-usliberals&tid=17706](http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&webtag=ab-usliberals&tid=17706) “McCain was not just a war criminal. He was, and is, a vocal proponent of war crimes.” or for an example of how fucking desparate both sides seem to be to tarnish the other guy, [http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/5/115643/8150/700/530192](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/5/115643/8150/700/530192) “It’s pretty bad when your hair is whiter than your teeth” So, 2 minutes of searching and I can find the more fervent leftwing types saying he’s a murdering war criminal, with bad teeth. And before anyone starts accusing me of bias, I’m fucking british. That means even if I’m a hardline right winger by local standards, I’d still qualify for membership of the communist party by US standards. All I’m trying to do is point out that both sides have got their unpleasant little extremists. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/64 "2008-11-04T13:41:33Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Just to draw some of the venom aimed at what was a pretty innocuous post, how about: > > [http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/9241/85282/359/579333](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/9241/85282/359/579333) > > “McCain Fortune Has Ties To Unsolved Murder” > > or from the US Liberal groups at about: > > [http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&webtag=ab-usliberals&tid=17706](http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&webtag=ab-usliberals&tid=17706) > > “McCain was not just a war criminal. He was, and is, a vocal proponent of war crimes.” > or for an example of how fucking desparate both sides seem to be to tarnish the other guy, > > [http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/5/115643/8150/700/530192](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/5/115643/8150/700/530192) > > “It’s pretty bad when your hair is whiter than your teeth” > > So, 2 minutes of searching and I can find the more fervent leftwing types saying he’s a murdering war criminal, with bad teeth. > > And before anyone starts accusing me of bias, I’m fucking british. That means even if I’m a hardline right winger by local standards, I’d still qualify for membership of the communist party by US standards. All I’m trying to do is point out that both sides have got their unpleasant little extremists. None of those are even in the same league. :rolleyes: Compare: Obama had his cancer ridden grandmother who raised him, killed to garner sympathy votes. To yours: 1: There is an investigation into whether McCain was involved in a fatal car crash in 1964. **True** 1. McCain flipped on his stance against torture. **True** 2. McCain is old. **True** Nice try but no cigar for you. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/65 "2008-11-04T14:06:52Z")
FWIW, it appears the thread generating all the _faux_ outrage has been deleted. **Der Trihs** ’ posts on the SDMB remain. So I guess you are correct - there is no equivalence. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/66 "2008-11-04T14:10:38Z")
Oh, my outrage is decidedly not faux. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/67 "2008-11-04T14:12:37Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Oh, my outrage is decidedly not faux. Shodan’s “point” is though… ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/68 "2008-11-04T14:14:29Z")
May I recommend a nightstick, officer. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/69 "2008-11-04T14:50:29Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > None of those are even in the same league. :rolleyes: You know, I really don’t understand people who use the rolleyes smiley. Do you really want to advertise that you’re a smug cock whose grasp of written language is so poor you have to resort to a cartoon picture to convey your disdain? It was a 30 second search to demonstrate there’s some stupid accusations and smears coming from extremists on both sides (for your reference, googling Dailykos, mccain, murder). Please fucking excuse me if I’m not going to waste more time on it just because you don’t feel that one accusation of murder for benefit isn’t in the same league as another, especially seeing as I even went to the point of chucking in the “his teeth ain’t white” example just to show how daft the whole damned thing is. You don’t feel that your side is quite as vicious as theirs? Good for you. From the viewpoint of this pretty impartial outsider (actually, I want Obama to win, for what it’s worth) there’s cock all difference between the idiot fringe on either side. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/70 "2008-11-04T15:00:42Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > You know, I really don’t understand people who use the rolleyes smiley. Do you really want to advertise that you’re a smug cock whose grasp of written language is so poor you have to resort to a cartoon picture to convey your disdain? > > It was a 30 second search to demonstrate there’s some stupid accusations and smears coming from extremists on both sides (for your reference, googling Dailykos, mccain, murder). Please fucking excuse me if I’m not going to waste more time on it just because you don’t feel that one accusation of murder for benefit isn’t in the same league as another, especially seeing as I even went to the point of chucking in the “his teeth ain’t white” example just to show how daft the whole damned thing is. > > You don’t feel that your side is quite as vicious as theirs? Good for you. From the viewpoint of this pretty impartial outsider (actually, I want Obama to win, for what it’s worth) there’s cock all difference between the idiot fringe on either side. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/71 "2008-11-04T15:25:44Z")
Maybe it’s a new low for the creepers, but turned around and posted here, it would hardly raise an eyebrow. I continue to be amazed by the power of selective perception. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/72 "2008-11-04T15:35:04Z")
We at the Mother’s March Against Cognitive Dissonance have yet to pick a 2009 poster child. Have you any photographs, by chance? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/73 "2008-11-04T15:39:16Z")
I like to advertise my smug-cockhood with a penis smiley, but VBulletin doesn’t have that option. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/74 "2008-11-04T15:44:03Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Maybe it’s a new low for the creepers, but turned around and posted here, it would hardly raise an eyebrow. If you honestly believe this, you’re as blinkered as the next idiot. Selective perception indeed. There were plenty of people shushing the loons at FR, and the same would happen here. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/75 "2008-11-04T15:55:10Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I sometimes go over there to check it out-it’s like an “aquarium of stupid”, as I told someone else. Quite amusing. Check out [this masterpiece of FReeper poll analysis](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2121837/posts?page=34#34): > [@](#): > > Geez. The RCP (RealClearPolitics) map is ridiculous. The have MT, AZ and ND as “tossups”? OH as learning Obama? You gotta be kidding me! > Here’s the way I see it. Right now, they have Obama with 311 EV, McCain with 132 EV and 95 EV as tossups. > > These “tossup” states should be leaning McCain. Forget the Pravda polls. These are states that went for Bush in 2004. Obama is clearly getting less Dem support than Kerry. No way he wins these states: NC, GA, FL, MO, IN, AZ, MT and ND. Add 95 EV to McCain’s total. > > They have these states as solid Obama when they should be tossups: NH, IA, MN and WI. Deduct 31 from Obama’s total. Why? Obama had to go back to IA to campaign this weekend, so it’s clearly in play. MN and WI were fairly close in 2004 and should be closer this year. NH is a McCain stronghold. > > They have these states as leaning Obama when they are clearly in play and should be classified as tossups: PA, OH, VA, NM, CO and NV. Deduct another 73 from Obama’s total. > > New totals: Obama 207 EV, McCain 227 EV and 104 tossup EV. Looks like a race, right? > > Why would the Pravda media present the electoral map this way? **Because liberals always seem to make decisions based on wishful thinking and not hard data and sound logic.** (emphasis added) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/76 "2008-11-04T16:30:42Z")
Alright, come on, which one of you Dopers posted this in that thread? > [@](#): > > I SO look forward to watching all their faces Tuesday night! It’s gonna be a joy to me, watching the spectacle of all the pundits trying to explain what they see happening right before their beady little eyes…a JOY! > > Like a lot of folks, I’ve been biding my time, waiting patiently for MY time to roar! It’s almost here! ---
**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/77 "2008-11-04T17:26:40Z")
As reprehensible the notion that Obama’s grandma was killed by Obama or whatever…is truly sick of people to say that. Even sicker is that those posters are more likely to be Demoturds who are posting as Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/78 "2008-11-04T17:29:35Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Alright, come on, which one of you Dopers posted this in that thread? The excessive use of emphasizing capitalization might point to me, but I think it’s par for the course over there. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/79 "2008-11-04T17:31:25Z")
> [@ManiacMan](#): > > Even sicker is that those posters are more likely to be Demoturds who are posting as Republicans. Any reason to think that besides wishful thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/80 "2008-11-04T17:34:54Z")
> [@ManiacMan](#): > > As reprehensible the notion that Obama’s grandma was killed by Obama or whatever…is truly sick of people to say that. > > Even sicker is that those posters are more likely to be Demoturds who are posting as Republicans. Do explain. Are you saying … A) that most Freepers are actually Democrat moles trying to sink the Free Republic from the inside? Or … B) that Democrats are actually more likely to spew that sort of ignorance. Or … C) that you’re just a dope. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946.md?page=5)