# On election Eve, Freepers hit a new low **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946 "2008-11-03T23:49:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/121 "2008-11-05T01:43:01Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Bit of a misrepresentation there - a reporter from the rival paper (to the one that broke the story) interviewed some of the SS agents and _Palin supporters_ and none of them remembered hearing it. The right wing media is calling that evidence of a hoax; the mainstream and lefty media are… well, mostly ignoring the story, apparently, although some are admitting that the story is now [doubtful](http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/sarah-palin/23544/doubt-cast-on-kill-him-palin-rally-report/). No misrepresentation whatsoever. > **[Secret Service says “Kill him” allegation unfounded](https://www.timesleader.com/archive/270640/news-breakingnews-secret_service_says_kill_him_allegation_unfounded_-html)** > > First Posted: 10/15/2008 By Andrew M. Seder aseder@www.timesleader.comTimes Leader Staff Writer SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack... This was the second paper that reported the story. Here they have an interview with a secret service agent. "Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment. “I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune. He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton. Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.” “We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/122 "2008-11-05T01:43:21Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > It does sound like the SDMB, but just like that Star Trek episode where Spock had a beard. There is very little ignorance being fought here politically. Sorry. Just yesterday Der Trihs told me how Conservatives have racial hatred as their core belief, in GD nonetheless. Nobody challenged it. Oh, come on. Are you really holding up **DT** as a representative of the SDMB? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/123 "2008-11-05T01:44:06Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > By the way, I just read over at the Freep that one poster is convinced that Barack Obama (Barry, as he’s referred to over there) had a homosexual relationship with a bisexual child molester when he lived in Hawaii. > > Did anyone ask for a cite? Nooooo. Just comments along the lines of, “yeah, that makes sense.” > > Just like the SDMB, yessiree-bobcat-tail. Yup. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/124 "2008-11-05T01:44:13Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Like I said, the Freepers are strictly Bush league compared to what I routinely see here. If you’re implying that the lefties around here are worse than the Freepers, then why don’t you go and hang out there instead? ETA: I didn’t see that you were already there. (Although I wouldn’t mind their reaction to your “waterboarding” experiment. Seriously, those people scare me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/125 "2008-11-05T01:45:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If you’re implying that the lefties around here are worse than the Freepers, then why don’t you go and hang out there instead? Why would you even say something like that? “[del]America[/del] The SDMB rules! If you don’t like it you can fuck off!” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/126 "2008-11-05T01:48:55Z")
Well, we COULD send them **lekatt** , maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/127 "2008-11-05T01:50:21Z")
> [@Dead\_Badger](#): > > I’ve had arguments with all of those three, and yet none of them in my recollection has said anything remotely as reprehensible as suggesting that a presidential candidate had his grandmother killed to score some votes. You don’t read many of the anti-Bush threads, do you? [quote] Honestly, get some perspective. Cretins say stupid shit about all sorts of stuff everywhere, and everywhere people roll their eyes at it and tell them to shut up. There are cretinously right-wing people here too, and they don’t seem to get chased away. If only the morons on each side would shut the fuck up about how the other side is _mean_ to them, maybe the sane people could have an actual fucking conversation. I **do** have some perspective. What pisses me off are a bunch of self-righteous pricks selectively sampling the writings on another message board and tssk-tsskng smugly about how much better they are when theirs the same fucking thing here all the time. Pot kettle black. Emperor has no clothes. > [@](#): > > And they’ve gone uncommented? I just don’t believe you. I mean, really; do you _honestly_ think this place is more hateful than the Free Republic? Absolutely. No question. I **never** see lefties treated over there the righties are over here. [quote] Can you honestly find something here worse than a thread where half the replies had to be deleted for accusing a presidential candidate of murdering his granny? I’d be fucking amazed. [/quote They don’t delete them here. They let them stand. Well, that was just stupid. The usual retarded Pit insults, to be found on everything from football forums to Doctor Who bulletin boards. Hardly worth reading, let alone replying to.[/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/128 "2008-11-05T01:52:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Oh, come on. Are you really holding up **DT** as a representative of the SDMB? Wellllll, if somebody over there selected his posts and Hentor’s and a couple of others and held them up for ridicule as representative of what occured, they would probably feel just as smug as some people here, wouldn’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/129 "2008-11-05T01:55:11Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If you’re implying that the lefties around here are worse than the Freepers, then why don’t you go and hang out there instead? I think I just answered that. > [@](#): > > ETA: I didn’t see that you were already there. (Although I wouldn’t mind their reaction to your “waterboarding” experiment. > > Seriously, those people scare me. I’m sure you scare them. That fear, I feel is at the root of the wingnut hatred that exists on both sides. It’s only natural for small-minded people to need to assume that those with differing opinions are somehow flawed or monstrous. In the end, it’s just politics. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/130 "2008-11-05T01:56:28Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Wellllll, if somebody over there selected his posts and Hentor’s and a couple of others and held them up for ridicule as representative of what occured, they would probably feel just as smug as some people here, wouldn’t they? Probably not. **DT** is nuts, granted. **Hentor** , on the other hand, isn’t hateful; he’s incensed at injustices perpetrated by the right. Remember, we’re coming off 8 years of (abominable) Republican rule. It’s only natural that lefties would be extra-venomous right now. In other words, if you take the SDMB at its worst (ie., DT, after 8 years of Bush), it matches FP at what would presumably be its mildest (the general consensus, after 8 years of “their guy”). In any case, if you go back and read that “Obama killed his granny” thread there, you’ll see that the number of people calling out other posters for the shit they’re spewing is perhaps 1 in 10. More, if you assume that most of the deleted posts are in agreement with the theory. Whenever somebody says something really fucked up here, it’s generally pretty close to 50/50 agreement and disgust. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/131 "2008-11-05T02:02:21Z")
The fact, though, that someone would even START such a thread, and it wouldn’t immediately be locked for trolling says something something about the quality of the discussion over there. You can be conservative without being nuts, as I would normally consider you, **Scylla**. Just as you can be liberal without being like **Der Trihs**. (As for conservative nuts here, I can’t think of one in particular at this exact second). ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/132 "2008-11-05T02:06:16Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Probably not. **DT** is nuts, granted. **Hentor** , on the other hand, isn’t hateful; he’s incensed at injustices perpetrated by the right. I see, so it’s **righteous** hatred. They’re wrong over there because it’s not **righteous.** Sure. It just depends on which Kool-Aid you’re drinking. Got it. Fuck that, Hentor is about as hateful a liar as I’ve seen. He trots out this Scylla is a racist thing all the time. I look at the stuff here that’s been written about posters and I don’t see how one can have their head so far in the sand. Did you see what was written about Bricker recently, by **Veb** a former moderator? Gimme a break. The opposition is treated terribly here. > [@](#): > > Remember, we’re coming off 8 years of (abominable) Republican rule. It’s only natural that lefties would be extra-venomous right now. Yes, and Germany was chafing under unfair war reparations. I’s no excuse. > [@](#): > > In other words, if you take the SDMB at its worst (ie., DT, after 8 years of Bush), it matches FP at what would presumably be its mildest (the general consensus, after 8 years of “their guy”). In any case, if you go back and read that “Obama killed his granny” thread there, you’ll see that the number of people calling out other posters for the shit they’re spewing is perhaps 1 in 10. More, if you assume that most of the deleted posts are in agreement with the theory. I don’t make a habit of collecting the stupid things that get said here, but the Bush hates black people meme, some of the illuminatiesque conspiracy theories… I’ve seen far worse, here. > [@](#): > > Whenever somebody says something really fucked up here, it’s generally pretty close to 50/50 agreement and disgust. I don’t see very much disgust being thrown at lefties by lefties over here. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/133 "2008-11-05T02:09:30Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > (As for conservative nuts here, I can’t think of one in particular at this exact second). Well, I’m conservative and nuts, but I don’t think those two facts have anything to do with each other. I just happen to be conservative AND insane. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/134 "2008-11-05T02:09:35Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > The fact, though, that someone would even START such a thread, and it wouldn’t immediately be locked for trolling says something something about the quality of the discussion over there. Then you would have to say the same thing about this place: > **[Did Obama kill his grandma yesterday for a sympathy vote?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=491109)** > > Don’t forget, he kept saying “We must continue doing anything we can in these last few days” etc. Anything we can, whatever it takes–it all adds up to “I killed grandma to get some sympathy votes.” Don’t forget–Hillary killed Vince Foster. Also... That’s not locked. > [@](#): > > You can be conservative without being nuts, as I would normally consider you, **Scylla**. Just as you can be liberal without being like **Der Trihs**. (As for conservative nuts here, I can’t think of one in particular at this exact second). Thank you. Conservative nuts don’t make it here very long. Liberal nuts don’t make it very long over there. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/135 "2008-11-05T02:10:14Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If you’re implying that the lefties around here are worse than the Freepers, then why don’t you go and hang out there instead? That’s really unfair, **Guin**. **Scylla** is a very strong contributor to this board, even though he doesn’t believe that I can read his mind. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/136 "2008-11-05T02:10:51Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > Well, I’m conservative and nuts, but I don’t think those two facts have anything to do with each other. I just happen to be conservative AND insane. But it’s a **righteous Freedom-loving** insanity, which makes it ok. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/137 "2008-11-05T02:11:58Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > That’s really unfair, **Guin**. **Scylla** is a very strong contributor to this board, even though he doesn’t believe that I can read his mind. There you go again, falsely attributing viewpoints. I never said that. How do you know what I beleive? (kinda joking) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/138 "2008-11-05T02:20:28Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I see, so it’s **righteous** hatred. They’re wrong over there because it’s not **righteous.** Sure. It just depends on which Kool-Aid you’re drinking. Got it. > > Fuck that, Hentor is about as hateful a liar as I’ve seen. He trots out this Scylla is a racist thing all the time. I look at the stuff here that’s been written about posters and I don’t see how one can have their head so far in the sand. Did you see what was written about Bricker recently, by **Veb** a former moderator? I don’t think it signifies that **Veb** is “a former moderator”. They don’t let you take your jackboots into retirement with you. That said, yes, I’ve seen the stuff about **Bricker** , and if you go back to those threads you’ll find me and others saying “shut the fuck up”. > [@](#): > > Gimme a break. The opposition is treated terribly here. That depends on who you define as “the opposition”. **Shodan** gets treated poorly, but then Shodan says stupid things. **Bricker** is usually treated relatively well; there’s been a bunch of anti-Bricker stuff lately, but that has a lot to do with his gloating thread, as you well know. Normally, people are lining up to suck his rhetorical dick, much the way they do **Sam Stone’s**. > [@](#): > > Yes, and Germany was chafing under unfair war reparations. I’s no excuse. No, but it’s a mitigating circumstance. > [@](#): > > I don’t see very much disgust being thrown at lefties by lefties over here. I don’t understand what you mean by this. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/139 "2008-11-05T02:29:02Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I don’t understand what you mean by this. I don’t see much disgust cast at lefties by lefties when they say disgusting things. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/140 "2008-11-05T02:30:05Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I don’t see much disgust cast at lefties by lefties when they say disgusting things. Like we have been saying all day…cite. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946.md?page=8)