# On election Eve, Freepers hit a new low

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946 "2008-11-03T23:49:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/141 "2008-11-05T02:33:33Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Like we have been saying all day…cite.

How exactly would you like me to cite the absence of something?

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/142 "2008-11-05T02:35:29Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Like we have been saying all day…cite.

Oh, and for the record, I did. I pointed out Smartaleq’s post #51, which I think is unnecessarily hateful and nasty and disgusting. I note that you have not repudiated it.

There’s your cite.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/143 "2008-11-05T02:52:23Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> That’s really unfair, **Guin**. **Scylla** is a very strong contributor to this board, even though he doesn’t believe that I can read his mind.

Mine was simply an answer to:

> [@Scylla](#):
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> jack:
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> I hung out there for 6 months. The wingnuts here are far nuttier than over there. My hypothesis is simply that this board probably has a younger demographic.

And unless you’re being sarcastic, I believe [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=491109) was parody. The Freepers were serious. (They were also approving, for the most part, of denying candy to the children of Obama supporters).

**Bricker** mostly gets shit for his “gotcha!” style threads, where he asks trick questions, or his gloating about Bush winning the day after election day in 2004. Most of the time, I don’t see him acting nearly the way **Der Trihs** does. (That would be, oh, **Shodan** , or **Starving Artist**.)

**Carol Stream** , maybe, but she just trolls about EVERYTHING, so I don’t think she counts as liberal or conservative. Just as a cuntstick.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/144 "2008-11-05T02:55:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Scylla]  
…pointed out Smartaleq’s post #51, which I think is unnecessarily hateful and nasty and disgusting. I note that you have not repudiated it…

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So, we (which is to say, me and my ilk, as defined by you…) must renounce, denounce, and repudiate **SmartAleq** ’s post #51?

And then we can bask in the warm sunshine of your approval?

Speaking on behalf of the hive mind, we extend our gratitude.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/145 "2008-11-05T02:57:00Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Oh, and for the record, I did. I pointed out Smartaleq’s post #51, which I think is unnecessarily hateful and nasty and disgusting. I note that you have not repudiated it.
> 
> There’s your cite.

You are a fucking moron. Now you can cite to this. Neither that nor this is in the same league as the allegation we are discussing. But you know what, OBAMA JUST WON OHIO! That means you can eat a bag of dicks for the next eight years.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/146 "2008-11-05T03:09:25Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> **Bricker** mostly gets shit for his “gotcha!” style threads, where he asks trick questions, or his gloating about Bush winning the day after election day in 2004. Most of the time, I don’t see him acting nearly the way **Der Trihs** does. (That would be, oh, **Shodan** , or **Starving Artist**.)

**shodan** and DT? The Same? You’re joking, I trust.

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/147 "2008-11-05T03:12:57Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> **shodan** and DT? The Same? You’re joking, I trust.

In the past I would have agreed with you here. DT isn’t nearly as annoyingly abrasive as he used to be though, and **shodan** ’s gotten much, much worse.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/148 "2008-11-05T03:13:12Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> You are a fucking moron.

Hey when the brain doesn’t work, you go with that. You’re not a very bright guy, No prob.

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> Now you can cite to this. Neither that nor this is in the same league as the allegation we are discussing.

I agree. The latter is a lot worse. It’s personal.

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> But you know what, OBAMA JUST WON OHIO! That means you can eat a bag of dicks for the next eight years.

I voted for Obama.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/149 "2008-11-05T03:14:26Z")

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> [@5-HT](#):
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> In the past I would have agreed with you here. DT isn’t nearly as annoyingly abrasive as he used to be though, and **shodan** ’s gotten much, much worse.

Again, I think it was just yesterday that DT, told me that Racial hatred was was central to Republicans.

You have anything from Shodan to top that?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/150 "2008-11-05T03:17:15Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Again, I think it was just yesterday that DT, told me that Racial hatred was was central to Republicans.
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> You have anything from Shodan to top that?

The McCain/Palin campaign hasn’t shied away from courting the racist hatred vote, you have to admit. If DT said that “Republicans are all racists”, then that’s something else entirely.

**LonesomePolecat** has certainly said worse, though, and he’s one of “yours”.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/151 "2008-11-05T03:20:26Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I voted for Obama.

Pull the other one, it’s got bells…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/152 "2008-11-05T03:22:25Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Pull the other one, it’s got bells…

He said he was voting for Obama a few weeks ago, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/153 "2008-11-05T03:22:51Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Again, I think it was just yesterday that DT, told me that Racial hatred was was central to Republicans.
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> You have anything from Shodan to top that?

I didn’t see that thread, but I’ll take your word for it. Shodan’s brand of ridiculous partisanship is different from that, though I find it just as annoying. It’s his weasel-wording and spinning that makes him insufferable. I’m not interested in searching for quotes, so if you choose not to accept that, that’s ok and I won’t push the issue. That’s been my impression, at least.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/154 "2008-11-05T03:28:19Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Just yesterday **Der Trihs** told me how Conservatives have racial hatred as their core belief, in GD nonetheless. Nobody challenged it.

The difference is, if SDMB were a perfect reflection of Freep, there would have been 15 posters in that thread backing him up, and no one telling him he was full of shit. Not even a Spock’s-beard version of you. Not to mention the one fruit-cake that would extrapolate his accusation into McCain being the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan or something.

No one is arguing that we aren’t left leaning over here – at least I’m not. But to say we are more hateful, or over the top, or whatever than they are … I think that’s ridiculous.

And, yes … I’m claiming “Spock’s Beard” as a band name.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/155 "2008-11-05T03:28:20Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Pull the other one, it’s got bells…

not that smart. yup

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/156 "2008-11-05T03:29:52Z")

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Not for nothing, but if it were up to me, I’d take “Pull the other one, it’s got bells …” out back, shoot it, and bury it in the woods.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/157 "2008-11-05T03:30:30Z")

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> [@5-HT](#):
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> I didn’t see that thread, but I’ll take your word for it. Shodan’s brand of ridiculous partisanship is different from that, though I find it just as annoying. It’s his weasel-wording and spinning that makes him insufferable. I’m not interested in searching for quotes, so if you choose not to accept that, that’s ok and I won’t push the issue. That’s been my impression, at least.

Why would I need a cite for your opinion? I accept it. I just find the hostility, hatred, extreme mischaracterizations, and demonizations a bit worse than “spin” YMMV

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/158 "2008-11-05T03:36:49Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> No one is arguing that we aren’t left leaning over here – at least I’m not. But to say we are more hateful, or over the top, or whatever than they are … I think that’s ridiculous.

I spent 6 months there, and still lurk. I spent 8 years here. How much time you spend over there?

My opinion is based on something. Unless I’m mistaken, that makes one of us with a reasonable basis for comparison.

The personal attacks here are far **far** worse. This is often an intolerant and hateful place, and does the pile-on like no where else."

I do like it here better. Less homogenous. When it’s great it’s really great, and I prefer to be challenged more than admired.  
I’m not trying to build them up and put us down. But Redskins fans aren’t really all the different from Steelers fans.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/159 "2008-11-05T03:37:50Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Not for nothing, but if it were up to me, I’d take “Pull the other one, it’s got bells …” out back, shoot it, and bury it in the woods.

You think its ummm… jumped the shark?

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-election-eve-freepers-hit-a-new-low/470946/160 "2008-11-05T03:41:14Z")

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Scylla,

I regret the things have said in this and other threads. The future is starting to look beautiful and I hate to start it off with the same old animosity. If you will accept my apology I humbly offer it. The same goes for any other Republicans or conservatives. This is hopefully the beginning of something great, lets try to break the mold and just discuss things rationally and try to respectfully disagree.  
Sincerely,

Jason

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