# On pregnant men and the like

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-pregnant-men-and-the-like/962378>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 6, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-pregnant-men-and-the-like/962378 "2022-04-06T09:53:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-pregnant-men-and-the-like/962378/181 "2022-04-12T22:50:18Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> > [@Broomstick](#):
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> > I would ignore a Hindu eating a steak. All of these actions seem **quite incompatible** with the religion these folks claim to be but again, none of my business.
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> Can you explain where you got the highlighted notion above ? 
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> Diet of [non-vegetarian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-vegetarian) Hindus can include fish, poultry and red meat (mainly lamb, goat but also beef, pork and wild boar[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_in_Hinduism#cite_note-Sen2004-3)) in addition to eggs and dairy products.[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_in_Hinduism#cite_note-nevillegregory206-4)

Most of the observant Hindus I’ve met do not eat beef because cows are sacred to them, or so they have told me. They do eat other forms of red meat in my experience, unless they chose to be vegetarian. If I haven’t grasped all the nuances involved well, I’m not a Hindu myself and I can’t be expert on everything.

The fact I am _not_ an expert on everything is, to my mind, a very good reason to not confront people in public about stuff, especially personal stuff like gender identity, who they do or do not have sex with, dietary preferences, their religious views or lack thereof, and so on and so forth.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-pregnant-men-and-the-like/962378/182 "2022-04-12T22:53:40Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> And so pretend you meet such a person. You have a choice when interacting with them: you could point out that you don’t think they are really Jewish, or you could not. I think we both agree that you probably shouldn’t make a row. But why not?
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> And this seems to be what **UltraVires** is getting at in the OP. If he meets a man who chooses to become pregnant, then deep down he won’t accept that person as a _man_ . Then, why should he address him as a man?

…because it’s generally considered rude to start an argument in public with a stranger?

There are a lot of instances I don’t agree with what someone says they are and how they act, but I don’t say anything to the contrary because I don’t want to expend my energy on arguments about things that are, by and large, none of my business.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-pregnant-men-and-the-like/962378/183 "2022-04-12T23:55:40Z")

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My point exactly.

~Max

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-pregnant-men-and-the-like/962378/184 "2022-04-13T00:10:56Z")

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I’ve met a deluded victim of J4J’s once. Every other one has turned out be a predator. I generally start off with 'You are of course aware that Jews For Jesus was in fact founded by a Christian who changed his name to Moishe?" and similar questions. In the (It hasn’t happened yet) event they were genuinely unaware, I will politely fight their ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-pregnant-men-and-the-like/962378/185 "2022-04-13T01:41:34Z")

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I wish folks who expend this much thought about edge cases for trans people and outward expressions of gender identity and could instead spend more time thinking about why society has inculcated such strict social binaries on them and what’s so important about continuing to cling to them.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-pregnant-men-and-the-like/962378/186 "2022-04-13T01:59:29Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Most of the observant Hindus I’ve met do not eat beef because cows are sacred to them, or so they have told me. They do eat other forms of red meat in my experience, unless they chose to be vegetarian.

In India (which of course is not the sole arbiter of validity when it comes to Hindu identity, but in practical terms is pretty determinative), somewhere between 1% and 2% of Hindus eat beef, while [44% of Hindus identify as vegetarian](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/08/eight-in-ten-indians-limit-meat-in-their-diets-and-four-in-ten-consider-themselves-vegetarian/).

So yeah, beef-eating Hindus are a very small minority among Hindus, but there are still over 8 million of them in absolute numbers.

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