Huh? In most of Canada, a divided highway (i.e. barrier, median curb or grass strip, etc. - you do not have to stop for a bus on the other side whose lights are flashing. On your side, lights flashing and stop signs popped out - yes, really bad to pass them.
Is it different in the land of the “free”?
I’m not sure you should totally trust this answer, but I know a dog trainer who trains sniffer dogs, and as soon as pot was legalized, they had to train a whole bunch of new dogs because, apparently, once a dog has been trained to alert for a substance, it can’t really be thoroughly untrained. And if the dog were to alert, and marijuana was found, along with any other substance, the whole stop would be thrown out despite the finding of other substances because marijuana has been legalized and that might have been what alerted the dog. Said dog can work in areas where it can still be handy to detect marijuana, like a school, so the dog is not necessarily out of a job.
So, in the airport, my guess would be, the dog is not sniffing for pot. But they can also detect lots of other drugs.
last time a relative was busted for fireworks which was bought about 10 minutes outside of the city limits they had a few cars pulling people over for checks once you were in city limits
they confiscated them and you were warned because you signed a paper saying you wouldn’t take them to anyplace they weren’t allowed when you bought
them
they might do the same for the ops situation
“Pulling cars over for checks” - what does that mean? Legally, there is no such thing. Perhaps checkpoints for motor vehicle specific stuff but not criminal. The standard for stopping a car is “reasonable suspicion”. I suppose if a cop in state A (weed is illegal) follows a car into state B (weed is legal) and watched the occupants go into a weed shop, exit carrying a bag and return to A he would have a reasonable suspicion to stop the car. However, once the car is stopped the cop is now going to have to confirm or dispel his suspicions in a reasonable amount of time. If there is no contraband in plain view (I’ve never been to a dispensary but assume the bags are not marked “Weed in Here!”) or the occupants couldn’t wait to enjoy their purchase, it becomes a Q&A session. If the drivers says, " I’m not answering any questions", that would be the end of it. I can’t see any way how the observations would constitute the Probable Cause required to search. Change the circumstances to to cop actually witnessing the purchase and I’d say he would have PC.
As far as signing a paper - that would be meaningless in another state. Are there states where possessing weed is legal in some places but not others?
If you are going to cross state lines to get your smoke and are afraid of this type of thing, don’t stop at the closest place. Also, don’t consume your purchase until you are home and done driving. Our neighbors to to the north have some experience with this.
I live in Portland, OR, which is snug up against the Washington border. Washington legalized pot first. I don’t recall any stories about people getting busted for hopping over to Vancouver to buy it. Not saying it didn’t happen, but I don’t remember it being a thing.
In fact, IIRC, on northbound I-5, about a mile before the state line, there was a billboard advertising a dispensary in Washington.
When my son was a kid, we would drive to Ohio and buy fireworks for use in Pennsylvania. This was contrary to PA state law! I heard stories about cops pulling over cars that left Phantom Fireworks and returned to PA.
I am very situationally aware. On one of our trips, I noticed a car near mine in the Phantom parking lot that screamed out Po-Po. When we left, that car pulled out right behind me. Instead of turning left and catching the turnpike ramp, I turned right and told my son we were getting ice-cream.
The suspicious car followed us to the ice cream place. I parked and we went inside. The car sat for 10 minutes, then left. Eventually we returned home, unmolested.
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Nope this was crazier than that. The bus and I were going the same direction on I-15 he was going 60 and I passed him going 65 mph in the middle lane.
I watch “Cops” on a regular basis. They often observe cars leaving “known drug houses,” but they don’t pull them over on that basis; they wait for the driver to commit a traffic infraction, which becomes the pretext for the stop. Of course the first question after arriving at the driver’s window is “you were just observed leaving a known drug house, is there anything in the car that shouldn’t be here?”. It usually goes badly for the perp after that, but only because they’re foolish enough to consent to a search.
Not seeing how a formal dispensary is meaningfully different from a “known drug house.” ISTM that if the police had RAS to conduct a traffic stop on a vehicle that just left a place without waiting for them to commit a moving violation, they would do so.
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Yep, pot sniffing dogs have mostly been retired in legal marijuana states. If a dog trained to detect marijuana alerts on a suspect vehicle and a search is conducted, the search can be thrown out because there was no probable cause to search.
I’m imagining the poor beasts being put up for adoption, and being adopted by a family with at least one toker. The poor dog would go nuts.
You should be good to go, then.
I’m planning a trip to visit my brother in Michigan. I’m a MM patient in PA, but Michigan has better prices and recognizes Pennsylvania cards!
That would be CBD ointment and the answer is maybe.
I think you either misread your cite or misread savidicus’s question, because the answer is the opposite of what you posted: It is illegal under federal law to take marijuana across state lines. Even if it’s legal in both states under state law. It’s Drug Trafficking of a Schedule I Controlled Substance.
I dont think it it’s on your knee or already ingested you could be arrested for transporting.
A youtube channel I like to watch made some mention of how it was chancy to transport seeds between growers if the seeds had to be taken across a border. Not a border from a legal state to an illegal state, but between legal states. This sounded wonky to me, but it would explain the scarcity of some strains that are very available in other states.
Maybe relevant, although this happened when I was still living in Philly which I haven’t since 1962. PA liquor tax was considerably higher than NJ’s. There was a liquor store a half mile from a bridge over the Delaware. Not one of the major bridges, but a small one north of the city. So people were coming over from PA to buy liquor there and bring them back which was illegal (see the 21st amendment). So PA sent a police car to note PA plates and radio them to the cops on the other side of the bridge. I don’t think they needed any excuse to stop a car and search in those days. Or maybe the fact that had stopped at a NJ liquor store was considered sufficient. Anyway, this cut seriously into the business of this liquor stare, which really got very little local business and they complained to their local police. They went and arrested the keystone cops for carrying guns without a NJ permit. They could have responded by leaving their guns on the west side of the bridge but they’d have sooner left their pants. I don’t know how this was finally resolved. I suppose they could have been arrested for trespassing on the liquor store parking lot or for loitering on the highway across the road.
Anecdotal evidence about dogs in airports. Over the last ~60 flights over the last ~10 years, the only dogs we’ve seen at airports are the agricultural dogs, usually cute little beagles. We lost a leftover piece of pizza and an apple once because we were traveling internationally and were passing through the Atlanta airport. We were traveling from the Cayman Islands back to the US, and the apple even had a little “product of US” sticker on it. The Ag people were really nice, gave our luggage a cursory look and warned us to be more careful in the future.
I know, n=1 here but I agree with the folks that suggest that the TSA doesn’t really care so much about weed. Not that I’d ever intentionally carry anything like that across state or national boundaries, but the TSA seems to be a lot more interested in stabby and explody things. And rightfully so.
They can stop for a traffic violation. And yes, you are pretty much always ciolating something.
Then they can claim they smelled the smoke.
Because being at a “known drug house” is far more iffy that being at a place that sells marijuana. Even people who are in the business of selling drugs have mailmen, pizza deliver guys, cable guys, repairmen, family members, and friends who visit who do not use drugs. Further, you usually can sit with a known drug dealer and use the product at the house. You don’t necessarily have to take a package with you.
Instead of wanting to fight the courts on this issue, the cops can use a pretext traffic stop and/or get a consent search.
If you are going to a store that exclusively sells marijuana, and does not allow consumption on the premises, it is a pretty good bet that after you leave, there is marijuana in the car. You are the judge: is it not reasonable to suspect that there is marijuana in the car?