# On the closing of the Omegaman thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094 "2007-05-30T17:40:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/21 "2007-05-30T18:56:40Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] One can be sincere and still be a troll. [/QUOTE] Your definition and mine don’t match, then. I would say if you sincerely believe what you’re saying, and have sincerely presented it, then you aren’t trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/22 "2007-05-30T18:58:12Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] One can be sincere and still be a troll. [/QUOTE] Bwuh? I thought, if the poster believes in his or her ideas, then posting provocative things in the relevant area was hunky-dory? I thought trolls were typically disingenous by definition. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/23 "2007-05-30T19:04:03Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] Bwuh? I thought, if the poster believes in his or her ideas, then posting provocative things in the relevant area was hunky-dory? [/quote] Not completely hunky-dory. There is a line and there has been the occastional Doper who crossed that line. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/24 "2007-05-30T19:06:04Z")
I don’t think it was trolling at all- the word choices and style to me were very similar to stuff I 've heard from Stephen Baldwin and Kirk Cameron- if he was trolling, he did his homework. And his public profile, which I assume he added when first signed on, states he is a member of the “J” team. I assume that stands for Jesus, but I could be wrong. Maybe the Utah Jazz? And while I don’t agree with Omegaman on the issue, I was enjoying the spirited back and forth, and since it was in the pit, I didn’t see the harm. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/25 "2007-05-30T19:07:46Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] Not completely hunky-dory. There is a line and there has been the occastional Doper who crossed that line. [/QUOTE] I think there still has to be an intent to be disruptive and I didn’t see that intent in **Omegaman’s** posts. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/26 "2007-05-30T19:14:40Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I think there still has to be an intent to be disruptive [/QUOTE] For the most part, yeah. Or being unintentionally disruptive and continuing to be disruptive after being told to knock it off. One can also earn the “troll” label simply by virtue of having an inordinate number of Pit posts. I haven’t read the thread in question so I’m not qualified to comment on **Omegaman**. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/27 "2007-05-30T19:19:22Z")
I was considering starting a thread to express the same sentiment, but since **Dio** beat me to it, I can do little but agree. I may have been a bit unfair in the amusement I found in the thread’s contents; nevertheless I believe closure to be unwarranted. Let **O’man** have his honest fret-n-fume session. Ain’t harming nobody none. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/28 "2007-05-30T19:28:37Z")
Pitting your cat is fine. Pitting jaywalkers is fine. Pitting dog walkers is fine. **Evil Captor** starting a thread with a flat-out lie in the title is fine. “Christ is a cunt” is hunky-dory. A whole thread of people maligning a dead stranger in as nasty a way as they can manage is fine. …but Pitting Satan is trolling. Why is that, do you think? Because it is disruptive? Gosh, maybe we should all think twice before we disagree with the majority on anything - it might upset them. Because it is insincere? I guess he really does hate his cat. Because it is a subject that the mods don’t like? Whatever happened to “if you don’t like a thread, don’t read it”? Because **Omegaman** posts too much? Then I guess **Guinastasia** should worry about her status. Because it stirs up trouble? In a way that no other Pitting of no other Doper stirs up trouble, no doubt - what might that way be? Bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/29 "2007-05-30T19:31:56Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] Why is that, do you think? Because it is disruptive? Gosh, maybe we should all think twice before we disagree with the majority on anything - it might upset them. Because it is insincere? I guess he really does hate his cat. Because it is a subject that the mods don’t like? Whatever happened to “if you don’t like a thread, don’t read it”? [/QUOTE] Bullshit yourself. I really don’t care about the content of the OP or his point of view one way or the other. Read his comments for yourself. The guy is either a troll or a nutter; either way, thread closed. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/30 "2007-05-30T19:33:05Z")
I thought the same thing when the thread was locked. Our satan-hatin’ friend might be an illogical, ranting idiot, but he gave no indication that any of his stupidity or incoherence was insincere. [QUOTE=RyJae] This just supports the hive mind mentality others have said exists here. If someone believes other than the majority they are trolls. [/QUOTE] You’re a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/31 "2007-05-30T19:34:55Z")
Since he’s in agreement, does this make **Shodan** one of the Usual Suspects? Nice to have you on side, brother. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/32 "2007-05-30T19:39:22Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] Bwuh? I thought, if the poster believes in his or her ideas, then posting provocative things in the relevant area was hunky-dory? I thought trolls were typically disingenous by definition. [/QUOTE] Take the lately banned **Trotsky** as an example. The guy was probably a real conservative, who really did believe in the positions he advocated, but who made it a point to advocate them in the most insulting, insubstantial way possible. He may have believed in what he was saying, but the only reason he was posting here was to taunt the liberals, not to debate them. Which is trolling. That said, I’ll add my voice in disagreement with **fluiddruid**. **Omegaman** seems a few sandwiches short of a picnic basket, but I don’t think he was trolling. > [@Shodan](#): > > Gosh, maybe we should all think twice before we disagree with the majority on anything - it might upset them. It seems that the majority of the people on this board think **Omegaman** wasn’t a troll, and that his thread didn’t deserve to be closed. So I’m not really sure where you and **RyJae** are going with this whole “herd mentality” argument. This seems a pretty poor example to hang that particular argument off. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/33 "2007-05-30T19:41:19Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I think there still has to be an intent to be disruptive and I didn’t see that intent in **Omegaman’s** posts. [/QUOTE] Exactly. As I said before, he’s a little rough around the edges. But I know plenty of people IRL who are just like him - they say what’s on their mind without a lot of polish and with a directness that sometimes comes across as deliberately provacative. That doesn’t make him (or them) trolls. It was obvious to me in an earlier thread when I poked him about his “pal Jesus.” He didn’t get angry, he just laughed it off and busted my chops back. He comes across as a little loony, and I truly think he’d be better off in GD where he could witness to his heart’s content. But the “trolling” charge is pretty far-fetched. And it really seemed that if that thread were given a little more time to develop, it would have become a more thoughtful exchange. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/34 "2007-05-30T19:42:02Z")
Good Christ – who cares? ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/35 "2007-05-30T19:43:06Z")
Those who post to the thread, one would imagine. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/36 "2007-05-30T19:49:54Z")
Satan made **fluiddruid** close the thread. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/37 "2007-05-30T19:51:00Z")
This thread is making some strange bedfellows, but yeah, me too. Clearly he wasn’t trolling, which the mod acknowledges by not banning him. So the only remaining complaint is that he’s a “nutter” in the mod’s opinion. I’d wager that there are mods who think I’m a nutter too, but I can’t recall a thread of mine ever being closed on that account. ---
**Author:** ![Anduril](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Anduril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduril)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/38 "2007-05-30T19:55:46Z")
I was enjoying that thread. I was surprised it was closed. I’ve seen worse here that were not even close to being closed. (sorry for that) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/39 "2007-05-30T19:55:49Z")
[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett] Good Christ – who cares? [/QUOTE] I care about members being treated fairly and I care about a mod decision which contributes to any perception that the board has an administratively anti-Christian bias. I don’t think anyone should have a thread closed just because a mod (or even a majority of other posters) thinks he has a “nutty” belief. As long as the poster is coherent and is not TRYING to stir up shit, I don’t have a problem with nutty. We’ve had other respected posters (who will go unnamed) reveal some beliefs which the majority thought were at _least_ as nutty as believing in Satan and those posters were not treated as trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/40 "2007-05-30T20:00:04Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] You know there’s only one Man right ? 🙂 [/QUOTE] If it’s Charles Nelson Reilly, I’ve got some really bad news for you… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094.md?page=3)