# On the closing of the Omegaman thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094 "2007-05-30T17:40:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/121 "2007-05-31T06:40:17Z")
**Omegaman** , come here and sit a spell. Away from the rest of these people. Just you and me. OK, we’re alone now. Listen, dude, something is up with you. I’m not a shrink but I’ve got some heavy-duty life shit happening now myself. I can see shades of my anger in the posts you’re making. I won’t ask you for details, it isn’t any of my business. My best wishes to you and your family. And to the rest of the pile-on-ers (how the hell is that supposed to be spelled?) lay the fuck off. It’s like watching the neighborhood bully poking a stick at a wounded puppy. Some of you make me ashamed to be a member here. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/122 "2007-05-31T07:02:14Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] Like I said before I didn’t pay much attention in typing class. [/QUOTE] It doesn’t matter how well you type what you write, only how well you read it after you finish typing and before pressing submit. And if you want to see it done right, just look in your friendly neighborhood Bible. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/123 "2007-05-31T08:23:30Z")
[QUOTE=Hung Mung] I don’t see any great loss in closing that thread. If Lib and Dio want to talk, let 'em start their own thread or do it through email. Omega seems like a good kid but I didn’t get the feeling he was contributing substantially to the discussion that arose. Get a new thread, start fresh and we’ll see. [/QUOTE] Hopefully, you’ll read the new one before commenting, since you didn’t read the other one. I wasn’t having a talk with Dio since I never posted in it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/124 "2007-05-31T09:23:23Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] A question for Giraffe, Mr. Dibble, and others who might have found it to be incoherent: would you say that it was incoherent because it concerned subject matter that is unfamiliar to you? It is conceivable that an OP about, say, a QM interpretation might be incoherent to quite many people, including some mods. But would that violate the suggested guideline? [/QUOTE] I am reasonably well-informed on attitudes towards Satan in several different sects of Christianity ranging from Catholic to charismatic. Not that that has anything to do with the coherence in **Omegaman** ’s posts, unless you’re saying he’s doing the internet version of speaking in tongues. C’mon, Lib, can you honestly say his posts here and in the other thread were coherent? He’s veering from engine blocks to Satan via vanity, I get the connecting thread but it’s a Moebius one, you know? I like to do that sort of thing in my own head\* before\* I post - stream-of-consciousness isn’t good message board etiquette, IMO. Yeah, there were a lot of people posting in that thread, but it was all a bit “point&laugh at the gimp”, you know? I suspect part of the motivation of **fluiddruid** was mercy-killing, really. ---
**Author:** ![Tibidabo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Tibidabo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibidabo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/125 "2007-05-31T10:46:51Z")
[QUOTE=fluiddruid] The guy is either a troll or a nutter; either way, thread closed. [/QUOTE] I think the consensus is that he’s _not_ a troll. And so what if he _is_ a nutter? Since when does that warrant the closing of the thread? I’ll admit it was going nowhere, but no more than countless other threads that remain open, and that aren’t anywhere near as entertaining. It was a fun and harmless thread… ☹ Satan made you close it!! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Tibidabo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Tibidabo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibidabo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/126 "2007-05-31T11:02:58Z")
oops! sorry, that was completely redundant ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/127 "2007-05-31T11:10:33Z")
[QUOTE=Hung Mung] I don’t see any great loss in closing that thread. If Lib and Dio want to talk, let 'em start their own thread or do it through email. Omega seems like a good kid but I didn’t get the feeling he was contributing substantially to the discussion that arose. Get a new thread, start fresh and we’ll see. [/QUOTE] Agreed. That thread was a big pile of crazy with a few jokes and Dio repeating the same question. What’s the loss? If this had been some half ass pitting of President Bush, Hillary Clinton, or the tooth fairy, noone would be complaining about it’s closure. Why is this one such a big deal? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/128 "2007-05-31T11:29:07Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] If this had been some half ass pitting of President Bush, Hillary Clinton, or the tooth fairy, noone would be complaining about it’s closure. Why is this one such a big deal? [/QUOTE] Because it wasn’t the subject matter. It was just that the mod wasn’t into it, in my opinion, and so whether members enjoyed it be damned. The official reason from Fluid was trolling, but that didn’t hold up to scrutiny. Nutter too, because there are a lot of nutters here. Giraffe then hooked into incoherence, and that has fared better. But incoherence has never hurt Elucidator, and I was trying to determine whether it has to do with the subject matter or the writing style. It is apparently the latter. So as of now, we have it that the thread was closed because the OP does not use clever turns of phrase. MrDibble’s theory is mercy killing, but if that’s the case, it is very selectively applied. I’ve been the brunt of lots of threads that a mod could have killed for that purpose. Meanwhile, a whole new guideline is being established now that posts need to be “coherent”, whatever the fuck that means. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/129 "2007-05-31T11:36:35Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] Agreed. That thread was a big pile of crazy with a few jokes and Dio repeating the same question. What’s the loss? If this had been some half ass pitting of President Bush, Hillary Clinton, or the tooth fairy, noone would be complaining about it’s closure. Why is this one such a big deal? [/QUOTE] Because of the reason given for closing it. And the fact that countless other seemingly pointless threads trundle on unlocked. [This one, for example.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=422626) Yet [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=422639) is locked after 7 posts. Because to her it made no sense. \*\*fluiddruid \*\*may be a warm wonderful human being, but she sucks as a moderator on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Tibidabo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Tibidabo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibidabo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/130 "2007-05-31T11:41:28Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] Why is this one such a big deal? [/QUOTE] 'cos it was fun. I can just about see where the mods are coming from (now that they’ve put the right spin on it). Poxy revisionists! 😃 But this just seemed too heavy-handed: _Originally Posted by **fluiddruid** : “ **Omegaman** , I think we’ve had quite enough of your trolling. Knock it off or risk taking a (possibly permanent) vacation from the boards.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/131 "2007-05-31T12:00:09Z")
[QUOTE=Quoth the Raven] 'cos it was fun. I can just about see where the mods are coming from (now that they’ve put the right spin on it). Poxy revisionists! 😃 But this just seemed too heavy-handed: _Originally Posted by **fluiddruid** : “ **Omegaman** , I think we’ve had quite enough of your trolling. Knock it off or risk taking a (possibly permanent) vacation from the boards.”_ [/QUOTE] That’s the thing. She accuses him of trolling, which is clearly not the case, and then says it doesn’t matter if he is trolling. A big load of steaming crap. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/132 "2007-05-31T12:25:29Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] That’s the thing. She accuses him of trolling, which is clearly not the case, and then says it doesn’t matter if he is trolling. A big load of steaming crap. [/QUOTE] I can’t answer for the backpedalling, though I will say I don’t like it. If you make the troll call, stick to it. Throwing in a different call serves only to muddy the waters. Trolling doesn’t seem that far of a stretch to me. Omegaman did little to answer direct questions and seemed in my opinion to be interested in fanning the thread along, or rambling wildly off topic. And how is it “clearly not the case”? I’m not going to argue either way as I have my opinion (stated above) and others have their own, but all we have to go on is a posters word as to whether or not they are trolling. Since few ever admit it in a clear cut fashion, I think that stating “Omegaman is clearly not a troll” is every bit as foolish as stating “Omegaman is clearly a troll.” ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/133 "2007-05-31T12:33:55Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Because it wasn’t the subject matter. It was just that the mod wasn’t into it, in my opinion, and so whether members enjoyed it be damned. The official reason from Fluid was trolling, but that didn’t hold up to scrutiny. Nutter too, because there are a lot of nutters here. Giraffe then hooked into incoherence, and that has fared better. But incoherence has never hurt Elucidator, and I was trying to determine whether it has to do with the subject matter or the writing style. It is apparently the latter. So as of now, we have it that the thread was closed because the OP does not use clever turns of phrase. MrDibble’s theory is mercy killing, but if that’s the case, it is very selectively applied. I’ve been the brunt of lots of threads that a mod could have killed for that purpose. Meanwhile, a whole new guideline is being established now that posts need to be “coherent”, whatever the fuck that means. [/QUOTE] My point (apologies for being unclear) was that if the thread were about something else, the trolling call would likely not be questioned. If someone were to go off on some poorly constructed rambling thread pitting President Bush and spent the thread acting in the same fashion that Omegaman had, likely noone would’ve questioned the troll call or the closing. What makes this thread any better? As for incoherence, there is a big difference between Elucidators form of incoherence and the stuff Omegaman was peddling. Omegaman started with Satan then wandered in to pockets out, prison bitches, police and firemen, engine repair, etc. Posts were across the map. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/134 "2007-05-31T12:57:01Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] Your name reminds me of Samurai. Great warriors they were (are) . Keep up the good work. [/quote] “Shodan” means something like “first step” in Japanese. It refers to the first, or lowest, level of black belt in judo. > [@](#): > > Ever read that book "_Hagakure_ " ? Have it in my hand right now . Fierce warriors , those people . Read that one from cover to cover just like the Bible. It was chock full of usefull information about how weak men are . Good information to have . Now they are going to have to move the thread to Cafe Society. 🙂 > [@](#): > > Not every religion is bad .Not that I am stupid and think the Samurai were a religious order. (added that–picky,picky,picky) You’re getting the hang of it. > [@](#): > > You have to have the guidance of God and the wisdom of men to really be an actual human being. Hope that makes some sense . It does, at least to me. Don’t let the turkeys get you down. They’ll dig at you for a while and try to get you to react. You’re actually dealing with it fairly well. It’s possible that the reaction of the board will cause the mods to dial it back a bit. > [@Vinyl Turnip](#): > > [Quote=Omegaman] > > So what do you do for a living Redfury ? You seem like the 007 type of guy to me. Please, gentlemen, let’s not make this about IQ. [/quote] Ok, now _that’s_ funny. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Tibidabo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@Tibidabo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibidabo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/135 "2007-05-31T13:00:00Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] Omegaman started with Satan then wandered in to pockets out, prison bitches, police and firemen, engine repair, etc. Posts were across the map. [/QUOTE] Hahahaha!!! 🙂 Those were the good old days! Can’t believe I’m nostalgic for a thread I read just a few hours ago… Ok, it’s a valid point and you’re right; if someone had been rambling as incoherently about Bush or terrorists then there would be little or no objection to the thread being closed. I just wish there was some kind of process of natural selection whereby people had the sense to let such threads die quick and natural deaths by not contributing, thus allowing the likes of the **Omegaman** thread, by virtue of its popularity, the right to live… Ok, ok, fine. Rules are for the greater good. But that thread was like… a victim… maaaaaan. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/136 "2007-05-31T13:08:29Z")
Can someone tell me what the idiom ‘leaving my pocket out for…’ actually means? I searched to see if it had been explained, but couldn’t find anything. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/137 "2007-05-31T13:13:00Z")
Troll, no, off his prescription meds or on non-prescreption meds, quite possibly. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/138 "2007-05-31T13:27:49Z")
“Incoherent?” Bullshit. \*\*Omegaman \*\*writes exactly the way a lot of people talk. Yeah, it sometimes swings from topic to topic but if you’re paying attention you’re not going to get lost. Quite frankly, I find it pretty amazing that, on a message board whose members regard themselves as “the smartest people in the room,” anyone would have trouble following his semi-stream-of-consciousness messages. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/139 "2007-05-31T13:33:53Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] My point (apologies for being unclear) was that if the thread were about something else, the trolling call would likely not be questioned. If someone were to go off on some poorly constructed rambling thread pitting President Bush and spent the thread acting in the same fashion that Omegaman had, likely noone would’ve questioned the troll call or the closing. What makes this thread any better? As for incoherence, there is a big difference between Elucidators form of incoherence and the stuff Omegaman was peddling. Omegaman started with Satan then wandered in to pockets out, prison bitches, police and firemen, engine repair, etc. Posts were across the map. [/QUOTE] I do understand what you’re saying. Admittedly, Omegaman is not the easiest person to grok, but I actually do understand (at least most of) what he’s saying. He’s like Triskadecamus without the eloquence, or Elucidator without the wit. He writes in metaphors, and that’s familiar to me because of how Jesus teaches. So I understand him just fine. That’s why I asked people what they meant exactly by incoherence. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094/140 "2007-05-31T13:35:21Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] Can someone tell me what the idiom ‘leaving my pocket out for…’ actually means? I searched to see if it had been explained, but couldn’t find anything. [/QUOTE] In prisons (at least the ones on TV), the dominant person leaves his empty pocket hanging out of his pants, which his bitch holds onto to signify his obedience. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-closing-of-the-omegaman-thread/406094.md?page=8)