# On the SDMB, why do atheists and theists have to be such utter dicks to each other? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 12, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207 "2008-07-12T02:31:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/601 "2008-07-17T15:51:09Z")
**magellan01** ’s rather amusing meltdown aside, this atheist thinks your “protest” is ridiculous and petty. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/602 "2008-07-17T16:07:11Z")
When you overuse words like “cunt” they just lose all meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/603 "2008-07-17T16:23:06Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] Referring to a man that lived, giving him the same minimal respect you’d give Moses, Ramses, Nero, Chaucer, Rasputin, John Wilkes Booth, Hitler, Frankenstein, and Bambi is not asking for any agreement in godlike status. We can even assume Jesus was only a man and that Christianity is a fable. He still merits the tiny degree of respect of being treated as an historical figure. As I mentioned, I can see how someone could lowercase “god”, for two reasons. One would be the rationale of not wanting to imbue a concept one doesn’t agree with divinity that one doesn’t believe exists in any realm. The other is to distinguish in a discussion, as I have sometimes done, between a generic god and the Christian “God”. And if you care to look back at the exchange, it started if quite civilly. Rank stupidity, rudeness, and heretofore unimaginable density sometime calls for other tactics. Alas, the insistence of the dumb cunt to be insulting to a real person that many believe is divine—all while wearing her tiny little hat of protest on her puny little head is great. And she now thinks that my honestly insulting her directly—one person—is somehow worse than her repeated backhanded insult to millions of people? Ha. The dumb cunt reveals even greater depths of stupidity than previously thought. [/QUOTE] I’m sure he would appreciate the sincere efforts you’ve put forth to preserve his legacy of peace and understanding. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/604 "2008-07-17T16:42:03Z")
[QUOTE=cosmosdan] Hey! I sold him an accordion once. That’s what I tell people that ask, “Do you know Jesus?” Sure, I sold him an accordion. [/QUOTE] No wonder they crucified the poor fucker. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/605 "2008-07-17T16:54:11Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] Let me spell this out in a way you might finally understand it: Cunt cunt cunt, cunt cunt. Cunt cunt cunt cunt (cunt cunt)! Now go cunt yourself. [/QUOTE] You had me at “cunt”. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/606 "2008-07-17T17:19:40Z")
Let me see if I’m understanding this correctly. **Kalhoun** chooses not to capitalize certain words and names of a religious nature because she feels that to do so legitimizes the belief that there is a supreme being of some sort. This annoys people who believe in that supreme being, which gives **Kalhoun** further incentive to continue doing so, since she derives some pleasure from their discomfort. **magellen01** takes such great offense at this that he has decided that from now on he will only refer to her as “dumb cunt” or variations thereof. This action is directed solely at her, not at anyone else who believes as she does, thus making it a personal issue rather than a general protest, which is the intent of the action he finds offensive. In other words, **Kalhoun** is acting out of a sense of personal conviction, while **magellan01** is being a whiny little kid. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/607 "2008-07-17T17:53:59Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] **magellan01** ’s rather amusing meltdown aside, this atheist thinks your “protest” is ridiculous and petty. [/QUOTE] Yup. As well, this kerfuffle provides a tedious level of irony to the stated topic of the thread. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/608 "2008-07-17T18:01:33Z")
[QUOTE=LurkMeister] In other words, **Kalhoun** is acting out of a sense of personal conviction, while **magellan01** is being a whiny little kid. [/QUOTE] **Kalhoun** is acting out of ignorance, while **magellan01** is now acting like a whiny little kid. He _was_ extremely civil at first. The fact remains that capitalizing “Jesus” denotes nothing other than the fact that his name is a proper noun. Kalhoun isn’t railing against Christianity, but against a convention on English style and usage. > [@](#): > > As well, this kerfuffle provides a tedious level of irony to the stated topic of the thread. Some part of me really wants to believe that this whole argument is a whoosh, given the thread title. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/609 "2008-07-17T18:14:23Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] Let me spell this out in a way you might finally understand it: Cunt cunt cunt, cunt cunt. Cunt cunt cunt cunt (cunt cunt)! Now go cunt yourself. [/QUOTE] Oh, I understand the smegma dripping onto your keyboard just fine. I’ve understood every word you’ve said. Starting with you admission that you intentionally insult Christians when you debate with them. Got that, you puss-oozing syphillatd cunt? Sorry, make that “Cunt”. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/610 "2008-07-17T18:26:28Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] I’m sure he would appreciate the sincere efforts you’ve put forth to preserve his legacy of peace and understanding. [/QUOTE] Oh, I understand perfectly. She’s been quite clear as to why she insists on being a Cunt. As far as Peace goes, I wish to level my counter protest and afford her the same peaceful time on these boards as she admits to providing for others. She won’t change now. Not on these boards. That would be to admit her cuntness. But perhaps this will give _it_ pause when it drips its dumbfuckness elsewhere. And that might lead to greater peace in the long run. Peace. magellan01 - Protestor for Peace and Understanding ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/611 "2008-07-17T18:31:27Z")
[QUOTE=Malthus] Yup. As well, this kerfuffle provides a tedious level of irony to the stated topic of the thread. :smack: [/QUOTE] It’s far from ironic. It is a perfect example of why the discussions are often so hostile. Here we have a poster who ADMITS that she, while in discussion with Christians, intentionally insults them. Talk about :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/612 "2008-07-17T18:32:35Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] Oh, I understand the smegma dripping onto your keyboard just fine. I’ve understood every word you’ve said. Starting with you admission that you intentionally insult Christians when you debate with them. Got that, you puss-oozing syphillatd cunt? Sorry, make that “Cunt”. [/QUOTE] You see how that whole “righteous belief” thing can poison your whole ability to think rationally? The “deist” here is so outraged that I enjoy a subtle jab at the concept of christianity (all the while stuffing his face with pork and beef in mixed company and writing the word god with the “o” in place and all), that he’s worked himself into a hate-filled frenzy. Phelps ain’t got nothin’ on you, Zealot Boy. You’re a menace to society. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/613 "2008-07-17T18:46:16Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] You see how that whole “righteous belief” thing can poison your whole ability to think rationally? [/QUOTE] Are you talking to yourself here, Cunt? If so, maybe there’s hope. [QUOTE=Kalhoun] The “deist” here is so outraged that I enjoy a subtle jab at the concept of christianity (all the while stuffing his face with pork and beef in mixed company and writing the word god with the “o” in place and all), that he’s worked himself into a hate-filled frenzy. [/QUOTE] You seem to have a hard enough time not being stupid when you think you know what you’re talking about. You may want to stick to that, Cunt. And if you would read over the thread, Cunt, you might be able to glean that my theistic beliefs are not the point. Just look at the OP on the top of the page. As I’ve said, there might as well be a laser pointing from it to your puny brain. [QUOTE=Kalhoun] Phelps ain’t got nothin’ on you, Zealot Boy. You’re a menace to society. [/QUOTE] Whatever you say, Clarice. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/614 "2008-07-17T18:50:04Z")
Do you happen to know that **magellan01** routinely eats beef in front of Hindus or pork in front of Moslems or Jews, or that he enjoys a secret thrill in so doing because he is consciously trampling on someone else’s belief system? I mean, I have no intention of joining a tardfight in which the gynaecological expletive is being tossed about, but to hark back to the barbecue example I gave earlier, it wasn’t so much about good table manners as of keeping an acquaintance whose belief system differed from mine from inadvertently violating a cultural taboo, or the anxiety that be might be doing so. I could have said on good scientific grounds, backed by the traditions of my own religion, that there was no such thing as unclean or forbidden food, and indeed the practice of affording veneration to a mere ruminant was primitive superstitious nonsense - but how much better to afford him a little consideration, don’t you think? Yes, yes, you’re oppressed daily by being forced to live in a nominally-Christian society and handle coinage with “In God We Trust” on it and all that, but it’s not like you have no other avenue for protest, now is it? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/615 "2008-07-17T18:51:27Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] It’s far from ironic. It is a perfect example of why the discussions are often so hostile. Here we have a poster who ADMITS that she, while in discussion with Christians, intentionally insults them. Talk about :smack: [/QUOTE] Yes, but you have long since surrendered any claim to the high ground. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/616 "2008-07-17T18:59:42Z")
You know, when I was reading the OP’s title…the first thing that came to mind was… “Wait a minute, they don’t _have to be_ dicks to each other, they _choose_ to be dicks to each other. It has nothing to do which side they are on, but it does have everything to do with their own personality(ies).” So, throw all those people (who choose to be dicks) on an island, and let them duke it out while the rest of us actually coexist in reasonable peace. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/617 "2008-07-17T19:04:47Z")
You’d think that dicks and cunts would be able to get along better. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/618 "2008-07-17T19:08:16Z")
[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber] You’d think that dicks and cunts would be able to get along better. [/QUOTE] Fuck 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/619 "2008-07-17T19:08:49Z")
[QUOTE=Yeticus Rex] So, throw all those people (who choose to be dicks) on an island, and let them duke it out while the rest of us actually coexist in reasonable peace. [/QUOTE] Fucking hippie. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207/620 "2008-07-17T19:14:40Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] Do you happen to know that **magellan01** routinely eats beef in front of Hindus or pork in front of Moslems or Jews, or that he enjoys a secret thrill in so doing because he is consciously trampling on someone else’s belief system? [/quote] I don’t know, but I’d be willing to bet on it. He does type the word god with the “o” intact, knowing full well that there are people on these boards who don’t. Of course he’s consciously trampling on cmkeller’s belief system. If he cared about the _feeeeeeelings,_ he wouldn’t do it. > [@](#): > > Yes, yes, you’re oppressed daily by being forced to live in a nominally-Christian society and handle coinage with “In God We Trust” on it and all that, but it’s not like you have no other avenue for protest, now is it? What does that have to do with anything? Why would another avenue be a better choice than this one? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-sdmb-why-do-atheists-and-theists-have-to-be-such-utter-dicks-to-each-other/456207.md?page=32)