# On the subject of attacking an armed man and getting shot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 9, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-subject-of-attacking-an-armed-man-and-getting-shot/853460 "2020-05-09T08:18:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-subject-of-attacking-an-armed-man-and-getting-shot/853460/261 "2020-05-19T14:31:50Z")

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Is there an active Georgia secession movement to which I may donate?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-subject-of-attacking-an-armed-man-and-getting-shot/853460/262 "2020-05-19T16:55:46Z")

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> [@Isosleepy](#):
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> When you wake up in the middle of the night with a guy standing over you in your bedroom, you are reasonably in fear of your life. Even if that guy is the one you had kidnapped and tied up in the basement, who got loose. If you shoot the guy in that case, though, regardless of the reasonableness of your fear, it isn’t self defense. It is murder. Just because the fear is or might be reasonable doesn’t matter if the situation is of your own making while you are committing a crime.

True, but the word “reasonable” has legal contexts.

And in the legal context, “reasonable” would not apply.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-subject-of-attacking-an-armed-man-and-getting-shot/853460/263 "2020-06-24T21:05:24Z")

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[Grand jury indictments are in!](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ahmaud-arbrery-killing-indictments-travis-greg-mcmichael-william-bryan/)

> The indictment charges Gregory McMichael, Travis McMichael, and William “Roddie” Bryan with malice murder, four counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-subject-of-attacking-an-armed-man-and-getting-shot/853460/264 "2020-06-25T18:38:01Z")

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Excellent.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-subject-of-attacking-an-armed-man-and-getting-shot/853460/265 "2020-11-16T15:06:18Z")

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Update on the bond hearing:

[https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-weigh-bond-father-son-ahmaud-arbery-slaying-74164118?cid=referral\_taboola\_feed](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-weigh-bond-father-son-ahmaud-arbery-slaying-74164118?cid=referral_taboola_feed)

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-subject-of-attacking-an-armed-man-and-getting-shot/853460/266 "2020-11-16T15:59:56Z")

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I love this jem from the article -

> In the courtroom Thursday, Zachary Langford — a friend of Travis McMichael’s since boyhood — testified his friend was a jokester who got along with everyone and had at least one Black friend.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-subject-of-attacking-an-armed-man-and-getting-shot/853460/267 "2021-06-19T14:13:44Z")

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Jury selection for the trial set for October:

> **[Jury selection in Ahmaud Arbery case set for October | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/07/us/ahmaud-arbery-georgia-murder-trial-date-set/index.html)**
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> Jury selection will begin October 18 for the state trial of three men facing charges in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia last year, according to Glynn County, Georgia, court records.

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