# Onanism in the military. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 1, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292 "2014-02-01T18:53:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/61 "2014-02-03T19:56:41Z")
> [@geezer1](#): > > Is an “Unfit For Military Service” discharge colored, like a Big Chicken Dinner ? > > When I was in the Army, General Order #1 was “To take charge of this post and all government property in view” – I guess things have changed a little over the years – do they still have Stable Call ? ? That is your 1st general order. General Order #1 for deployed soldiers states what the prohibited activities are. Here is an example. [http://documents.nytimes.com/general-order-no-1-prohibited-activities-for-soldiers](http://documents.nytimes.com/general-order-no-1-prohibited-activities-for-soldiers) There have been several directives named general order #1. Probably the most famous being MacArthur’s which set up post war Japan. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/62 "2014-02-03T19:56:48Z")
Why do I suddenly crave pan-fried asparagus? ---
**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/63 "2014-02-03T20:30:30Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > Why do I suddenly crave pan-fried asparagus? Because you’re not expecting a blowjob tonight? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/64 "2014-02-05T03:42:40Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > ??? > > Same same is a common phrase used throughout asia, especially in Thailand, Korea, Vietnam etc by both locals and foreigners and i’ve never heard of it being offensive to say that people say it… Because they actually do very frequently. > [@Monty](#): > > ??? > > I’ve lived in Asia since the beginning of 2005 and I rarely encounter that expression. I’ve also lived in and visited Asia for quite some time before 2005 and, again, rarely encountered that expression. The places in Asia I’ve been included Korea, Japan, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, and China. I can confirm that “Same same” is a very common expression in Thailand. Very common pidgin English. It is in no way considered offensive. A _really_ popular phrase is: “Same same but different.” That one’s even popular on T-shirts. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/65 "2014-02-05T15:20:40Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I can confirm that “Same same” is a very common expression in Thailand. Very common pidgin English. It is in no way considered offensive. > > A _really_ popular phrase is: “Same same but different.” That one’s even popular on T-shirts. Well, is it common or is it “Gutter Talk”? Is it not offensive to call a person’s common speech “gutter talk”. Further, is it not racially offensive to call the expression Thai Gutter Talk or Korean Gutter Talk? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/66 "2014-02-05T15:22:16Z")
It is not “gutter talk” at all. It is very common. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/67 "2014-02-05T15:42:35Z")
> [@Bear\_Nenno](#): > > Well, is it common or is it “Gutter Talk”? Is it not offensive to call a person’s common speech “gutter talk”. Further, is it not racially offensive to call the expression Thai Gutter Talk or Korean Gutter Talk? > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > It is not “gutter talk” at all. It is very common. **Moderator Note** This whole discussion has become a hijack. If you want to discuss this in relation to moderation, take it to ATMB. If you want to discuss the exact sense of the phrase, take it to IMHO. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![sunstone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunstone/32/3372_2.png) [@sunstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunstone)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/68 "2014-02-06T02:48:08Z")
Back to the OP. When I was a young Viet Nam era AF officer, one of my duties was to go through the property of young airmen who had been killed. I was careful to personally take any porn or suggestive materials and dispose of them respectfully (not in a ceremony, but alone) before packaging up the remaining personal property and sending it off to relatives. I know it didn’t belong to me, but I could imagine a mother’s or wife’s reaction when receiving the materials. They certainly didn’t need that porn. So that is what I did. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/69 "2014-02-06T15:40:46Z")
Anthony Swofford wrote in _Jarhead_ that he and his fellow Marines went through their gear and threw away all of their porn (including the really weird German stuff) before going into battle in Gulf War I. They were told that all of their personal belongings, without exception, would be sent to their next of kin if they were killed. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/70 "2014-02-06T17:11:55Z")
Hard to believe The Corp wouldn’t be your unspoken porn buddy. I thought those guys all looked after each other. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/71 "2014-02-06T18:14:39Z")
Swofford had kind of a love-hate relationship with the Corps. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/72 "2014-02-06T18:18:25Z")
> [@tonyfop](#): > > And with all the description of life on subs, I have to say Carriers are the same. When the curtain is pulled, it is a force field, and there shall be no opening of the curtain from the outside. Walking through a 96 man berthing space about 15 minutes after the lights go out can be an interesting experience, what with all of the various sound effects. Boarding school was like that, except we didn’t have curtain.s :mad: ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292/73 "2014-02-06T20:08:18Z")
My ship, USS Ogden (LPD5), had a crew of around 400 and a Marine detachment of about 900. We got along. ;o) Their officers kept them busy so they wouldn’t touch themselves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onanism-in-the-military/680292.md?page=3)