# Once and for all, take 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 14, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432 "2006-02-14T10:26:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/1 "2006-02-14T10:26:32Z")

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Rather than raise a [zombie thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=310543), I’ll start a new one. But this is topical, so I’ll address it:

Tonya Harding did not **personally** attack Nancy Kerrigan. Harding’s [white-trash husband](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gillooly) _hired_ a guy to whack Kerrigan in the knee with a pipe. I won’t go on record supporting her claim that she didn’t know about the plan beforehand, but she didn’t physically carry it out, is my point.

And as long as I’m here:

The heated frying pan was drugs.

The egg, _sans_ shell and sizzling away in the frying pan, was your brain on drugs. No one said the egg, by itself, was your brain.

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Rodney King said, “Can we get along here? Can we get along?” And sounded rather shook up when he said it. I don’t know who originated the whining “Cain’t we all jest get alonnnnnnnnng?” Presumably some comedian, but it’s not what RK said.

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/2 "2006-02-14T13:43:13Z")

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You tell 'em!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/3 "2006-02-14T15:18:24Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> The heated frying pan was drugs.
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> The egg, _sans_ shell and sizzling away in the frying pan, was your brain on drugs. No one said the egg, by itself, was your brain.

This has bugged me off and on for some time. As I recall, the commercial’s voice-over was along the lines of:

> [@](#):
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> [sizzling frying pan] This is drugs. [egg broken into pan, imemdiately starts to fry] This is your brain on drugs. Any questions?

Later on, there were t-shirts saying “This is your brain. This is your brain on the beach” or some such, getting the source material wrong.  
Similarly, Kirk’s “KHAAAAANN!!!” scream did not involve an overhead camera angle with him shouting toward the ceiling, though this is the typical form of parodies.

And it’s “I have a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more,” not “I don’t think we’re in Kansas any more,” dammit!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/4 "2006-02-14T18:37:02Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> And it’s “I have a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more,” not “I don’t think we’re in Kansas any more,” dammit!

Dammit? I thought the dog was named Toto. 😕

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/5 "2006-02-14T21:51:51Z")

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Oh, and better get this one established early, while the movie is still in theaters:

The guys in **Brokeback Mountain** were not cowboys. They were **shepherds.**

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/6 "2006-02-14T21:55:33Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Dammit? I thought the dog was named Toto. 😕

Director’s cut.

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/7 "2006-02-14T22:08:17Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Oh, and better get this one established early, while the movie is still in theaters:
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> The guys in **Brokeback Mountain** were not cowboys. They were **shepherds.**

No. They were cowboys who happened to work as shepherds for a season. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/8 "2006-02-14T23:01:03Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Similarly, Kirk’s “KHAAAAANN!!!” scream did not involve an overhead camera angle with him shouting toward the ceiling, though this is the typical form of parodies.

Precursor to “WAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!!,” though Michael doesn’t have a ceiling.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/9 "2006-02-14T23:07:36Z")

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> [@Ghanima](#):
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> No. They were cowboys who happened to work as shepherds for a season. Sorry.

I stand corrected, then. :::slinks away:::

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/10 "2006-02-14T23:19:16Z")

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Actually, the drug ad guy does say “this is your brain” when holding up the egg.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/11 "2006-02-14T23:30:30Z")

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That must have been a later version, then.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/12 "2006-02-14T23:48:07Z")

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The thing you stand \*\*behind \*\* is the **lectern**. The thing you stand \*\*on \*\* is the **podium**. Stop called the lectern the podium!

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/13 "2006-02-15T00:15:38Z")

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> [@Pochacco](#):
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> The thing you stand \*\*behind \*\* is the **lectern**. The thing you stand \*\*on \*\* is the **podium**. Stop called the lectern the podium!

According to [this](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=podium), they’re synonyms.

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**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/14 "2006-02-15T00:41:42Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Rather than raise a [zombie thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=310543), I’ll start a new one. But this is topical, so I’ll address it:
> 
> Tonya Harding did not **personally** attack Nancy Kerrigan. Harding’s [white-trash husband](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gillooly) _hired_ a guy to whack Kerrigan in the knee with a pipe. I won’t go on record supporting her claim that she didn’t know about the plan beforehand, but she didn’t physically carry it out, is my point.
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> And as long as I’m here:
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> The heated frying pan was drugs.
> 
> The egg, _sans_ shell and sizzling away in the frying pan, was your brain on drugs. No one said the egg, by itself, was your brain.
> 
> And,
> 
> Rodney King said, “Can we get along here? Can we get along?” And sounded rather shook up when he said it. I don’t know who originated the whining “Cain’t we all jest get alonnnnnnnnng?” Presumably some comedian, but it’s not what RK said.

Wasn’t the attacker Tonya’s “body guard”?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/15 "2006-02-15T00:57:24Z")

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It’s in the link. The bodyguard was Shawn Eckhardt. He and Jeff Gillooly (Harding’s ex) planned the attack, but some thug named Shane Stant was the guy they hired to do it.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/16 "2006-02-15T01:03:15Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> According to [this](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=podium), they’re synonyms.

That might just indicate that everybody calls a lectern a podium.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/17 "2006-02-15T01:23:57Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Rodney King said, “Can we get along here? Can we get along?” And sounded rather shook up when he said it. I don’t know who originated the whining “Cain’t we all jest get alonnnnnnnnng?” Presumably some comedian, but it’s not what RK said.

Martin Lawrence started that.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/18 "2006-02-15T01:26:45Z")

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Ah. I figured it was either him or one of the Wayans brothers. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/19 "2006-02-15T19:31:21Z")

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My take on the Rodney King quote is it was genuine, heartfelt statement, and the world would be a better place if we did all get along. It should not be mocked.  
As a former Oregonian, I’ve always thought Tonya was unjustly ostracized, but she does seem to keep hitting people with things like hubcaps.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-and-for-all-take-2/344432/20 "2006-02-15T23:25:57Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> As a former Oregonian, I’ve always thought Tonya was unjustly ostracized, but she does seem to keep hitting people with things like hubcaps.

Well, she did a number on Paula Jones, but it was within an organized sporting event. Personally, I think Jones was nuts to take on a former Olympic athlete. They’re used to ten-hour training days and whatnot.

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