# Once Republicans have killed off all the wimmens, who do we target next? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 9, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755 "2011-04-09T03:45:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/101 "2011-04-10T13:00:44Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I was just thinking that! I read that and said “That there is the most down right orthogonal thing I’ve seen all week!”. And no two ways about it, nosir! Oh, **'luci**. Sometimes I just want to take you home and keep you in a box underneath my bed. I promise you’ll live in the lap of luxury, [freshly hung lettuce](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13666929&postcount=551) every day. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/102 "2011-04-10T13:53:37Z")
So, none of those “stay the fuck away from me or I’ll have you arrested!” thingys? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/103 "2011-04-10T14:34:14Z")
And while we’re about it, what the hell is “abstinence education”, anyway? What do they do, show the kids some random porn clips for about forty minutes or so, then say “You see all of that? Well, don’t do any of that till we tell you its ok.” Really, how much information is there to be delivered? Now, if they give the kids the actual facts about what they got, what it does, and what goes where, I think I could shrug off the “abstinence” stuff. Tell the kids the truth, and I really don’t much care if you throw in an “abstinence” commercial at the end of it. It is said that love laughs at locksmiths. I doubt lecturers fare any better. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/104 "2011-04-10T14:46:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And while we’re about it, what the hell is “abstinence education”, anyway? What do they do, show the kids some random porn clips for about forty minutes or so, then say “You see all of that? Well, don’t do any of that till we tell you its ok.” Really, how much information is there to be delivered? > > Now, if they give the kids the actual facts about what they got, what it does, and what goes where, I think I could shrug off the “abstinence” stuff. Tell the kids the truth, and I really don’t much care if you throw in an “abstinence” commercial at the end of it. > > It is said that love laughs at locksmiths. I doubt lecturers fare any better. This sorta reminds me… when I was in high school in California, they had what were called Independent Learning Centers. They were high schools for kids who couldn’t attend regular full-time high school. A typical student there would be a teen parent who now had to actually work for a living - without even a high school diploma. They had day care right on school grounds. Part of that I’m sure was to give teen parents a place where they could feel comfortable even going to school, but I always thought it would be a good idea to have day care at all high schools, so all the kids can see how glamorous being a teen parent is. Do high schools do that these days? I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/105 "2011-04-10T15:02:19Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And while we’re about it, what the hell is “abstinence education”, anyway? It promotes abstinence as the only unquestionable mode of protecting oneself from STIs and unwanted pregnancy. Which is, of course, true – barring sexual assault, you’re not going to get or give an STI or make a baby if you’re not having sex. The problem is that the curricula promoting this ideal do so with tactics that are laden with shaming, and present a notion that sex is inherently damaging, especially for women. For example, a white rose is passed around the room from _boy to boy_ and every boy is told to rub the petals. By the time it gets to the last boy, it is of course damaged and beginning to wilt, perhaps lost a petal, looks awful. Then it’s held up, and used as an object lesson of what happens when you “sleep around.” There are also outright untruths in many curricula, like the concept that condoms have “pores” through which HIV can pass, ignoring that HIV is an intracellular virus, not floating free in semen in sufficient quantities, even if it were to pass through the .0000005 micron pores in a double-dipped latex condom. Are condoms 100% effective in preventing HIV transmission 100% of the time without fail worldwide? Probably not. Are they so faulty that they cannot be trusted ever? Hell no. Abstinence-only curricula are also devastatingly heterocentric, either ignoring other sexualities outright or _worse_. I have no problem with teaching what abstinence is _truthfully_. I have no problem with promoting abstinence as a thoughtful choice amongst several thoughtful choices of sexual conduct. I do have a major problem with upholstering abstinence education with lies, half-truths and shame-based rhetoric. If concepts can’t stand on their own without that kind of slanted embellishment, then they don’t belong in a place of _education_. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/106 "2011-04-10T15:22:11Z")
I went to a Planned Parenthood years ago for an annual exam. I made very little money then, but actually topped out their sliding scale. It was then I realized how poor the population they were serving really was, and how necessary they were for the health and safety of women in particular. By the way, I was married at the time. It was the first marriage for both of us and we got married by a minister so it was all moral and EVERYTHING. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/107 "2011-04-10T17:46:53Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I went to a Planned Parenthood years ago for an annual exam. I made very little money then, but actually topped out their sliding scale. It was then I realized how poor the population they were serving really was, and how necessary they were for the health and safety of women in particular. > > By the way, I was married at the time. It was the first marriage for both of us and we got married by a minister so it was all moral and EVERYTHING. Did they force you to have an abortion? That is what they do according to the Right wingers. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/108 "2011-04-10T19:22:56Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Did they force you to have an abortion? That is what they do according to the Right wingers. Well, I don’t like to complain, but they didn’t. I feel like I got ripped off. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/109 "2011-04-10T19:30:14Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > They don’t want to kill all women, just a lot of them. And torment and oppress the ones they don’t kill. And of course, they’ll want to keep most younger women alive if not healthy simply for use as sex objects. I am sure Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Anne Coulter are all motivated by the desire to create for themselves legions of female sex slaves. They’re all double-secret lesbians. Well, not Coulter; she’s too brittle for sex. Probably she either eats her victims alive or bathes in their blood. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/110 "2011-04-10T19:36:22Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Well, I don’t like to complain, but they didn’t. > > I feel like I got ripped off. Damn that PP! I’d demand my money back! ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/111 "2011-04-10T19:37:56Z")
Back to why GOP members visit prostitutes in such higher numbers than Democrats: There’s [this](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_T1vzYiWcy7U/SVOPdr3F2QI/AAAAAAAAb74/05pXD08XYQQ/s1600-h/1.jpg). And then there’s [this.](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/chris-christie-weaponsjpg-4ecea68fb20faf1b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/01/gov_christie_wont_share_opinio.html&usg=__olK8ARzCCscgJFClRiRcTusLBgE=&h=512&w=341&sz=43&hl=en&start=24&zoom=1&tbnid=YgzrzXMzEonpeM:&tbnh=165&tbnw=109&ei=MAaiTYCiIpOqsAOHsrj6DA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DGov%2BChristie%2Bphotos%2Bwiki%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dnp%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D865%26tbm%3Disch0%2C456&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=366&vpy=438&dur=485&hovh=165&hovw=110&tx=98&ty=112&oei=KQaiTcGlK_TQiAKy-rSGAw&page=2&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:24&biw=1280&bih=865) Any questions? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/112 "2011-04-10T20:25:19Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Any questions? Why does the president have an electric palm tree? That seems a bit energy extravagant, if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/113 "2011-04-11T00:18:39Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Why does the president have an electric palm tree? That seems a bit energy extravagant, if you ask me. I don’t know. Good question. But really, is it harmful to women? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/114 "2011-04-11T00:58:26Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Back to why GOP members visit prostitutes in such higher numbers than Democrats. Seeriously, if I had to guess with a gun to my head - because conservative women won’t give head. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/115 "2011-04-11T01:45:34Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Seeriously, if I had to guess with a gun to my head - because conservative women won’t give head. Or do so grudgingly with no enthusiasm, all the while thinking about how much she can get out of him later. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/116 "2011-04-11T03:15:10Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I am sure Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Anne Coulter are all motivated by the desire to create for themselves legions of female sex slaves. No; but that doesn’t keep them from wanting to stomp on other women. Especially since one of the hallmarks of the Right is that the oppressive rules they push only apply to other people. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/117 "2011-04-11T03:30:24Z")
The answer to the question posed in the OP is apparently seniors. > [@](#): > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/11/opinion/11krugman.html?ref=opinion](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/11/opinion/11krugman.html?ref=opinion) > > The House budget proposal that was unveiled last week — and was praised as “bold” and “serious” by all of Washington’s Very Serious People — includes savage cuts in Medicaid and other programs that help the neediest, which would among other things deprive 34 million Americans of health insurance. It includes a plan to privatize and defund Medicare that would leave many if not most seniors unable to afford health care. And it includes a plan to sharply cut taxes on corporations and to bring the tax rate on high earners down to its lowest level since 1931. Then again we have the spectacle of Obama the god damned wimp who won’t stand up against the Reps. Sometimes I don’t know which party to get mad at first. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/118 "2011-04-11T03:46:23Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > The answer to the question posed in the OP is apparently seniors. > > > [@](#): > > > > The House budget proposal that was unveiled last week — and was praised as “bold” and “serious” by all of Washington’s Very Serious People — includes savage cuts in Medicaid and other programs that help the neediest, which would among other things deprive 34 million Americans of health insurance. It includes a plan to privatize and defund Medicare that would leave many if not most seniors unable to afford health care. And it includes a plan to sharply cut taxes on corporations and to bring the tax rate on high earners down to its lowest level since 1931. > > Then again we have the spectacle of Obama the god damned wimp who won’t stand up against the Reps. Sometimes I don’t know which party to get mad at first. \ Excellent! Smithers, prepare another swimming pool for next year’s money!\ How stupid are the people that vote for these clowns? Or does fear really work that well? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/119 "2011-04-11T11:16:33Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Then again we have the spectacle of Obama the god damned wimp who won’t stand up against the Reps. We don’t know what Obama’s response to that budget proposal is, because it hasn’t been debated yet. At least give him a chance to respond before you jump to conclusions. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/120 "2011-04-11T11:35:31Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Less than there used to be. “Illegitimate” pregnancy peaked in the 50s that you love so much. Except back then they were hustled off out of sight in shame; I recall how my mother told me about how half her female classmates dropped out of college because of pregnancy. _sigh_ Man, why do you still bother ? We’ve all been down that road before. He’s already been told all this, repeatedly. He’s already been shown links to statistics (which he probably never followed). He’s already been proven just how fallacious his “recollection” was. And yet he still touts around this “you young whippersnappers, when I was your age wimmin kept their legs firmly shut and whatnot” attitude. It’s unavoidable - when bodies reach his age, they become deficient. As Sherlock Holmes noted, unless exercized the flexible gray matter becomes callous and rigid. Old habits and convictions become immutable “truths”. And I, for one, believe that you are cruel to constantly try to confront this poor old man with the facts and actual truth. He’s got Alzheimer’s for chrissake. Every time you shove teen pregnancy rates in his face he has to re-learn once again that the 50s were absolute, misogynistic shite. Every time he has to bear that disillusion all over again, until he forgets. And then it’s back to shoving it back down his throat. You’re a sadistic basterd, **Der Trihs** , and that’s all there is to it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755.md?page=7)