# Once Republicans have killed off all the wimmens, who do we target next?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 9, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755 "2011-04-09T03:45:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/121 "2011-04-11T12:14:34Z")

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I feel fairly certain that in the 50’s schools did not have pregnancy rates of 1 in 8, and that in other schools girls were not having contests between themselves to see who could get pregnant first, and that 2nd-graders were not engaging in oral sex anywhere, much less in their classrooms.

There is no question that in a moral sense and common sense, uh, sense, that things in this country are going to hell in a handbasket. There is absolutely no way that you will convince me or anyone from the 50’s and 60’s era that kids are not engaging in sexual behavior at rates and ages unheard of back than. You can cherry pick some questionable statistics if you want, but the incontrovertible fact is that STD’s, teen pregnancies, and sexual activity among increasingly younger kids is going on a rate now that people from the 50’s would never have believed possible.

And no, the 50’s were not absolute misogynistic shite. Most adult women of the 50’s and early 60’s were quite comfortable and happy with the quid pro quo that existed at that time, and they felt resentment and worry over the changes that had begun to happen, driven mostly by 18 to 22 year-old-girls who’d been whipped up into a lather by their leftie professors and peers during the counterculture revolution. Take a look at some bra-burning photos from that time and you’ll find almost nothing but women in the 18-to-25 year age range. If you think women were miserable and felt oppressed during the 50’s and 60’s, it’s only because you’ve drunk the leftie Kool-Aid about that time. I lived it and I know perfectly well that most women of that time were perfectly content with the way society operated at that time. Mostly the burden of providing for the family was on the man, and women took care of their kids and the family home. That was the commonplace lifestyle then and nobody even questioned it until the drug-addled baby-boomer generation came of age and decided that they knew better than all those uptight adults about how things should be, and now we’ve drug problems and the crime associated with them infesting every part of every town and school. We’ve got millions of kids doomed to substandard lives due to having grown up in single-parent homes. We’ve got kid racing each other to see who can get pregnant first. And elementary school kids muff-diving and giving each other blow jobs at school, no less.

There is absolutely no way that you are ever going to convince anyone that society functions better now, and that’s why you try these lame and factually incorrect portrayals of life in the 50’s as a time when women had yokes around their necks and black people and gays being strung up on every corner streetlamp. All of that is a fiction and anyone who believes it, believes it only because they’ve brainwashed into it by leftie history revisionists.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/122 "2011-04-11T12:28:58Z")

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Go back to bed, you drug addict.

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/123 "2011-04-11T12:36:23Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I feel fairly certain that in the 50’s schools did not have pregnancy rates of 1 in 8, and that in other schools girls were not having contests between themselves to see who could get pregnant first, and that 2nd-graders were not engaging in oral sex anywhere, much less in their classrooms.

I have no idea whether teenage girls were having pregnancy “contests” in the 50s, but teen pregnancy rates have declined quite steeply since that decade ([cite](http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/05/1/gr050107.html)). It’s true that the proportion of teenage births that are to _unmarried_ mothers has increased, but if that’s an important distinction than it should be made outright. I can’t find any stats offhand for rates of sexual activity in the 50s, but it does appear that such activity has decreased at least since 1988 ([cite](http://www.sciamdigital.com/index.cfm?fa=Products.ViewIssuePreview&ARTICLEID_CHAR=6336517E-2B35-221B-6D7B26ECB975C249); for-pay; but age 15-17 virginity rates went from 50% for boys and 63% for girls in 1988 to 70% for both in 2002).

As for second graders having oral sex in classrooms: do you have information that indicates this is not a bizarre and unfortunate anomaly? If I can cite a second grader being beaten by his classmates in the 50s (and I imagine I could find something like that, if I looked) would it indicate a culture of violence from that decade?

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> There is absolutely no way that you are ever going to convince anyone that society functions better now […]

Aiee. Well, you can believe what you like, but please at least get the relevant statistics correct.

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/124 "2011-04-11T12:47:05Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> I can’t find any stats offhand for rates of sexual activity in the 50s, but it does appear that such activity has decreased at least since 1988 ([cite](http://www.sciamdigital.com/index.cfm?fa=Products.ViewIssuePreview&ARTICLEID_CHAR=6336517E-2B35-221B-6D7B26ECB975C249); for-pay; but age 15-17 virginity rates went from 50% for boys and 63% for girls in 1988 to 70% for both in 2002).

Slight update: rate of premarital virginity for girls age 17 in 1960 appears to have been around 67%; in 1954 it was around 73.5% ([cite](http://www.jstor.org/stable/2135048)).

Speaking as someone who is frankly a _known_ prude, I just don’t think your beliefs are _in any way_ backed up by numbers. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/125 "2011-04-11T12:51:59Z")

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Curiously, my Mother didn’t reveal the circumstances of my conception 'til I was ~43. Trust me, for her New Year’s Eve 1963 was verrry much still the 50’s. Clearly, the time discrepancy between my birth and the date of her marriage is _just_ proof that I was a preemie.

Also curiously, the only evidence that my Grandmother ever even had sex was those four children. However, I very much doubt that the blow-job was invented at Woodstock.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/126 "2011-04-11T12:58:33Z")

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> I feel fairly certain that in the 50’s schools did not have pregnancy rates of 1 in 8

Of course not. If a girl got pregnant, she dropped out of school. Occasionally she left for a couple of semesters, but mostly, they dropped out of school and didn’t return to finish their schooling. However, girls in that age range in the 50s got pregnant at a much higher rate than they do today. This was due to lack of knowledge (anyone else remember hearing that you couldn’t get pregnant if you “did it” while standing, or you couldn’t get pregnant if it was your first time?), lack of access to contraception (boys had problems even buying condoms), and lack of reliable contraception (a condom that was kept in a boy’s wallet for months or years was liable to break). The most common birth control method back then among that age group was withdrawal…and we all know how well that works. Or doesn’t work.

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> And no, the 50’s were not absolute misogynistic shite. Most adult women of the 50’s and early 60’s were quite comfortable and happy with the quid pro quo that existed at that time, and they felt resentment and worry over the changes that had begun to happen, driven mostly by 18 to 22 year-old-girls who’d been whipped up into a lather by their leftie professors and peers during the counterculture revolution. Take a look at some bra-burning photos from that time and you’ll find almost nothing but women in the 18-to-25 year age range.

You DO know that bra burning is a myth, right? Right? [Did Feminists Burn Their Bras in Protest at the 1968 Miss America Pageant? | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/history/american/burnbra.asp) Let’s see some pics. And MOST of the protesters in that era were college students! No matter what the cause. For that matter, in ANY modern era, most of the protesters are gonna be college age students. People in that age range have just come of age, and are mostly unburdened by dependent families, and are very, very passionate about their causes.

As for women being happy…I strongly doubt it. Most healthy adults don’t ENJOY being treated as sub-adults, as perpetual children. And legally and socially, that’s how women were treated. Oh, sure, SOME women enjoyed never having to be an adult, but I think that most chafed under the legal and social restrictions. Hell, I was a kid back in the 50s and 60s, and I HATED being told that I couldn’t do this because I was a girl, and that young ladies didn’t do that. It’s unhealthy for an adult to have to act like a child. And there was tremendous pressure on the boys and men to always be macho, too.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/127 "2011-04-11T12:59:40Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Curiously, my Mother didn’t reveal the circumstances of my conception 'til I was ~43. Trust me, for her New Year’s Eve 1963 was verrry much still the 50’s. Clearly, the time discrepancy between my birth and the date of her marriage is _just_ proof that I was a preemie.
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> Also curiously, the only evidence that my Grandmother ever even had sex was those four children. However, I very much doubt that the blow-job was invented at Woodstock.
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> CMC fnord!

Now that you mention it, I don’t think my parents ever had sex, ever. EVER. LALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU.  
Things were just different in their times. None of that shameful promiscuous nonsense. They politely asked Mr. Stork and that was that.

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/128 "2011-04-11T13:25:10Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> For that matter, in ANY modern era, most of the protesters are gonna be college age students. People in that age range have just come of age, and are mostly unburdened by dependent families, and are very, very passionate about their causes.

“Quoted for truth”, as the kids say. We shouldn’t generally _expect_ protestors to be anything other than young adults. To what you said, I’ll add that older women simply had more to lose; they had invested in the system as it was, and were accustomed to it in the sense of the devil-you-know. There’s a GD thread going on now in which has arisen the issue of female genital mutilation, a custom administered and in no small part continued _by women_. I should hope that **Starving Artist** wouldn’t use that as a pro-FGM argument.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/129 "2011-04-11T14:24:03Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Seeriously, if I had to guess with a gun to my head - because conservative women won’t give head.

Suggesting that prostitutes are all liberals! So, if the dems focused on creating an echo-chamber of left wing talking points among the prostitutes…  
Anyway, [Obama is going to present a spending plan this week.](http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20110410/US.Spending.Showdown/) We’ll see if he is ready to stand up to the pubs this time or not. The article does mention cuts to defense, but no specifics as yet.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/130 "2011-04-11T14:39:58Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> There is absolutely no way that you will convince me

And the winner of the 3rd Annual State the Obvious post of the year…

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/131 "2011-04-11T14:48:00Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> I have no idea whether teenage girls were having pregnancy “contests” in the 50s, but teen pregnancy rates have declined quite steeply since that decade ([cite](http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/05/1/gr050107.html)). It’s true that the proportion of teenage births that are to _unmarried_ mothers has increased, but if that’s an important distinction than it should be made outright.

It’s been made clear in the past that he’s talking only about unmarried teen mothers–if you got married and then had a kid, you’re perfectly fine.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> There is absolutely no way that you are ever going to convince anyone that society functions better now, and that’s why you try these lame and factually incorrect portrayals of life in the 50’s as a time when women had yokes around their necks and black people and gays being strung up on every corner streetlamp. All of that is a fiction and anyone who believes it, believes it only because they’ve brainwashed into it by leftie history revisionists.

So I repeat my questions from upthread: Which would you rather do, reduce the teen pregnancy/STD rate with pragmatic, proven-to-work programs regarding education and condom use/availability and health care availability; or stick to your principles even though they have been shown to result in a higher STD and pregnancy rate for un/underinformed teenagers?

It’s effectively proven that merely osmosing the risks of sexual activity from societal example doesn’t make teens have less sex. There’s equally no doubt in my mind that a cultural change would be necessary in order to reduce teen sexual activity, STD rates, and pregnancy rates. The question for you is this: do you honestly believe that removing sex education and sexual health providers, in the absence of a cultural change, is going to accomplish anything but make it worse?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/132 "2011-04-11T14:56:17Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> It’s been made clear in the past that he’s talking only about unmarried teen mothers–if you got married and then had a kid, you’re perfectly fine.

Or if you got knocked up by your boyfriend, and were subsequently guilted into marrying him - whether or not this was a good idea - this was also perfectly fine.

Forced marriage = good.

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/133 "2011-04-11T15:24:14Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> It’s been made clear in the past that he’s talking only about unmarried teen mothers–if you got married and then had a kid, you’re perfectly fine.

Well, then he must contend with the facts, first, that the premarital virginity rate is about the same now as it was in the mid-50s (although it dipped in the intervening years); and, second, that the increase in the proportion of _unwed_ teenage births is very steeply mitigated by the _overall_ reduction in the rate of teenage births. (I also suspect that many of the births to married teenage mothers followed the path of premarital sex -\> pregnancy -\> marriage -\> birth.)

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/134 "2011-04-11T15:40:41Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> Well, then he must contend with the facts, first, that the premarital virginity rate is about the same now as it was in the mid-50s (although it dipped in the intervening years)

Ah, here’s an interesting statistic: the rate of births to 10-14 (15-19) year olds is down from 0.9 (80.6) in 1950 to 0.6 (41.7) in 2008 ([cite](http://books.google.com/books?id=YqLr5zfL1UIC&pg=PA101&lpg=PA101&dq=std+statistics+1950s&source=bl&ots=MZnrPzkhNW&sig=wkDZUjskYAGDLZE2WBg2BMJxNYA&hl=en&ei=cR-jTcj2EMuatwesysCEAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=std%20statistics%201950s&f=false)). It does not appear to be the case that teenagers are becoming pregnant at earlier and earlier ages.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/135 "2011-04-11T15:45:16Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> Ah, here’s an interesting statistic: the rate of births to 10-14 (15-19) year olds is down from 0.9 (80.6) in 1950 to 0.6 (41.7) in 2008 ([cite](http://books.google.com/books?id=YqLr5zfL1UIC&pg=PA101&lpg=PA101&dq=std+statistics+1950s&source=bl&ots=MZnrPzkhNW&sig=wkDZUjskYAGDLZE2WBg2BMJxNYA&hl=en&ei=cR-jTcj2EMuatwesysCEAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=std%20statistics%201950s&f=false)). It does not appear to be the case that teenagers are becoming pregnant at earlier and earlier ages.

But! But! Society! Breaking down! Better when I was a kid! Must be!

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/136 "2011-04-11T16:18:45Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I feel fairly certain that in the 50’s schools did not have pregnancy rates of 1 in 8, and that in other schools girls were not having contests between themselves to see who could get pregnant first, and that 2nd-graders were not engaging in oral sex anywhere, much less in their classrooms.
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> There is no question that in a moral sense and common sense, uh, sense, that things in this country are going to hell in a handbasket. There is absolutely no way that you will convince me or anyone from the 50’s and 60’s era that kids are not engaging in sexual behavior at rates and ages unheard of back than. You can cherry pick some questionable statistics if you want, but the incontrovertible fact is that STD’s, teen pregnancies, and sexual activity among increasingly younger kids is going on a rate now that people from the 50’s would never have believed possible.
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> And no, the 50’s were not absolute misogynistic shite. Most adult women of the 50’s and early 60’s were quite comfortable and happy with the quid pro quo that existed at that time, and they felt resentment and worry over the changes that had begun to happen, driven mostly by 18 to 22 year-old-girls who’d been whipped up into a lather by their leftie professors and peers during the counterculture revolution. Take a look at some bra-burning photos from that time and you’ll find almost nothing but women in the 18-to-25 year age range. If you think women were miserable and felt oppressed during the 50’s and 60’s, it’s only because you’ve drunk the leftie Kool-Aid about that time. I lived it and I know perfectly well that most women of that time were perfectly content with the way society operated at that time. Mostly the burden of providing for the family was on the man, and women took care of their kids and the family home. That was the commonplace lifestyle then and nobody even questioned it until the drug-addled baby-boomer generation came of age and decided that they knew better than all those uptight adults about how things should be, and now we’ve drug problems and the crime associated with them infesting every part of every town and school. We’ve got millions of kids doomed to substandard lives due to having grown up in single-parent homes. We’ve got kid racing each other to see who can get pregnant first. And elementary school kids muff-diving and giving each other blow jobs at school, no less.
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> There is absolutely no way that you are ever going to convince anyone that society functions better now, and that’s why you try these lame and factually incorrect portrayals of life in the 50’s as a time when women had yokes around their necks and black people and gays being strung up on every corner streetlamp. All of that is a fiction and anyone who believes it, believes it only because they’ve brainwashed into it by leftie history revisionists.

This is the most literal example of “LA LA LA MY FINGERS ARE IN MY EARS I CAN’T HEAR YOU OR YOUR ‘FACTS’!!” I’ve ever seen in my life. You should be ashamed.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/137 "2011-04-11T16:34:16Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Curiously, my Mother didn’t reveal the circumstances of my conception 'til I was ~43. Trust me, for her New Year’s Eve 1963 was verrry much still the 50’s. Clearly, the time discrepancy between my birth and the date of her marriage is _just_ proof that I was a preemie.  
> CMC fnord!

Hmm. I wonder if the commonness of pregnant women smoking during the '50s and early '60s was a strategy to have low birth-weight babies and make the “preemie” cover story more plausible…

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/138 "2011-04-11T16:36:42Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> This is the most literal example of “LA LA LA MY FINGERS ARE IN MY EARS I CAN’T HEAR YOU OR YOUR ‘FACTS’!!” I’ve ever seen in my life. You should be ashamed.

Starving Artist has no shame.

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/139 "2011-04-11T16:41:57Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I am sure Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Anne Coulter are all motivated by the desire to create for themselves legions of female sex slaves. They’re all double-secret lesbians.
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> Well, not Coulter; she’s too brittle for sex. Probably she either eats her victims alive or bathes in their blood.

Yeah, like so many conservative women who achieve prominence, what do they run on? The idea that _they’re_hot and sexy, while those liberal bitches are hairy legged man hating lesbians. Palin called feminists ‘a cackle of rads’—WTF?—and Coulter’s got a long history of attacking liberal women while preening—rather a bit too desperately-----that she’s hot. I saw her on some morning show wearing a cocktail dress, for Pete’s sake. Coulter especially gives off the impression that she just loathes other women, thinks she’s special because she’s one of the guys, and not just because she’s publicly stated she think the vote should be taken away from women. What, including herself? Bachman’s said so many downright upside down–in terms of truth–things that there’s too many to go through.

Bottom line is, there are some women who think they’re one of the guys, they buy into sexism because they don’t think it applies to them–they’re special!----and so they go around and say things like, “But me and my pretty girl allies…'the hirsute pie wagons Dems call women…”

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/140 "2011-04-11T17:26:29Z")

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> [@margin](#):
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> Coulter especially gives off the impression that she just loathes other women, thinks she’s special because she’s one of the guys,

Well… I mean… just saying, she may be on to something there…

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