# Once Republicans have killed off all the wimmens, who do we target next? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 9, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755 "2011-04-09T03:45:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/161 "2011-04-13T20:00:45Z")
**Starving Artist** Fact-shields up and working at 100% efficiency! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/162 "2011-04-13T20:03:45Z")
You deny this? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/163 "2011-04-13T20:05:55Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > That doesn’t mean a thing. You really shouldn’t have edited that. You might have gotten credit for the one of the greatest dismissals in the history of this board. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/164 "2011-04-13T20:06:28Z")
It all went to hell in the Sixties, with all those damn dirty hippies. Ahhh for the golden Fifities :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/165 "2011-04-13T20:08:17Z")
And nobody even thanked us. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/166 "2011-04-13T20:12:42Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > That doesn’t mean a thing. Birth control pills are available now and so are abortions. The more important thing with regard to births is that far more of them occur without benefit of marriage and/or a lasting two-parent home environment. The real bitch of it is that I **agree** with you, Starving Artist. At least partially. I would **love** to see less children born into broken households. My own parents divorce had a substantially negative effect on me, and it truly breaks my heart to see such high rates of single parenthood and divorce. But what do we **do** about it that improves the situation? Voting for the Republican Party and spending hours on message boards railing against liberal permissiveness doesn’t seem to be getting results, now does it? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/167 "2011-04-13T20:14:51Z")
On the bright side though, roughly 50% of those births are female. All the more women for Republicans to kill in the future. :rolleyes: And just think, the kind of idiots who say stuff like that are the same kinds of people who were somehow able to determine how society should operate in the sixties. And with predictable results. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/168 "2011-04-13T20:17:34Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > The real bitch of it is that I **agree** with you, Starving Artist. At least partially. I would **love** to see less children born into broken households. My own parents divorce had a substantially negative effect on me, and it truly breaks my heart to see such high rates of single parenthood and divorce. But what do we **do** about it that improves the situation? Voting for the Republican Party and spending hours on message boards railing against liberal permissiveness doesn’t seem to be getting results, now does it? 😃 No, but at least it gives me a chance to try to get people to think about how society operates these days, and about the kind of thinking that caused it. Who knows? Maybe someday things will actually start to change for the better. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/169 "2011-04-13T20:24:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Who knows? Maybe someday things will actually change for the better. You mean we will go back to the tax rates we had under Eisenhower? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/170 "2011-04-13T20:26:15Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > That doesn’t mean a thing. Birth control pills are available now and so are abortions. The more important thing with regard to births is that far more of them occur without benefit of marriage and/or a lasting two-parent home environment. Benefit of marriage? You mean the benefits of forced marriage right? Also note that if marriage were a benefit, Republicans would want same-sex couples to benefit from it as well, right? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/171 "2011-04-13T20:27:02Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > You mean we will go back to the tax rates we had under Eisenhower? And McCarthyism and the Red Menace and the Yellow Peril and atomic attack drills and crewcuts ??? Oh HELL no. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/172 "2011-04-13T20:27:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, but at least it gives me a chance to try to get people to think about how society operates these days, and about the kind of thinking that caused it. Who knows? Maybe someday things will actually start to change for the better. If only you yourself were willing to think, maybe, just maybe, we could make some change. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/173 "2011-04-13T20:38:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, but at least it gives me a chance to try to get people to think about how society operates these days, and about the kind of thinking that caused it. **Starving Artist** , have you noted my citations above—particularly that the rate of teenage virginity is about the same now as it was in the fifties (and has declined since the seventies and eighties)? Combined with the fact that the likelihood of teenage pregnancy has declined dramatically, this should be rather heartening for you. If you have any contrary numbers (or something other than scattered anecdotes) I’d be very interested in seeing. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/174 "2011-04-13T20:40:51Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > …and atomic attack drills… Duck and cower. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/175 "2011-04-13T20:50:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > … Birth control pills are available now and so are abortions. … Abortions were available in 1963 too . . . ask me how I know. ☹ CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/176 "2011-04-13T21:01:52Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > That doesn’t mean a thing. Birth control pills are available now and so are abortions. The more important thing with regard to births is that far more of them occur without benefit of marriage and/or a lasting two-parent home environment. So you think that forced teen marriages are BETTER? The marriages weren’t that great, or that lasting. And IUDs were around since the 1930s, at least. They weren’t generally available, but my grandmother had one. Abortions have been around forever. The rich had safe abortions, and the middle class and poor had coat hangers or someone with a little medical training, and usually no painkiller. Making abortions illegal just makes them unsafe. If you want to reduce abortions, then giving girls higher education and career opportunities will reduce early pregnancies, and giving ALL kids COMPREHENSIVE sex ed will reduce early pregnancies too. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/177 "2011-04-13T21:06:49Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > You mean we will go back to the tax rates we had under Eisenhower? Naw. That was back in the crazy days when people knew that if you bought something you had to pay for it. The “lower my taxes” crowd does not want to pay for anything. They don’t even realize how they directly benefit from government services. (eg tea partiers riding around on Medicare-purchased scooters) And especially true for indirect benefits (eg children and teen support services that ensure that little Johnny has alternatives, and does not grow up to car-jack you). Government = Bad All taxes = Bad ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/178 "2011-04-13T21:12:50Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, but at least it gives me a chance to try to get people to think about how society operates these days, and about the kind of thinking that caused it. Who knows? Maybe someday things will actually start to change for the better. Yeah let’s go back to that kind of thinking. When my own mother – a grown woman working full time – wasn’t allowed to open up a bank account in her name without my father’s permission because she was married. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/179 "2011-04-13T21:29:16Z")
So there was no way to change that but to create a country where drugs and crime and STDs and a screwed up educational system and single-parent births ran rampant? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755/180 "2011-04-13T21:41:34Z")
I should probably add that women were somehow able to get the vote without all that having to happen. I would think that checking accounts would be a relatively small accomplishment compared to that. And besides, those practices weren’t born of a desire to oppress women. In those days, by and large, women took care of things on the home front and men took care of earning the money needed to support the family. Thus men had property and the likelihood of a continued income. Many women, if they worked, didn’t stay on the job as long as did men due to pregnancies and so forth. Plus in those days people were largely kept track of and identified by their names, and a woman could completely avoid a bad credit history by marrying or remarrying. So it was a risk to grant women credit in those days. Those practices had nothing to do with the common feminist fantasy that men were out to oppress women and/or deny them their rights. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-republicans-have-killed-off-all-the-wimmens-who-do-we-target-next/577755.md?page=10)