# Once Upon A Time \[edited title\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 23, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574 "2011-10-23T21:19:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/401 "2012-02-20T21:26:05Z")

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Ah, it’s been suggested that Booth was adding pages, and the process shown was aging them so as not to look out-of-place. That makes sense to me (and fits with him as a writer).

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/402 "2012-02-20T21:28:46Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> I’m by no means certain that Kathryn is dead just because she’s disappeared. There are many other possible options. And a sample of one does not merit a conclusion.

Well, sure, she could have been transported to the land of pretty ponies. Or for all I know she might’ve fallen down a big green pipe to fight armies of mushrooms and turtles. But given what I take to be a subdued but gleeful look in Regina’s eyes I’m going to assume Kathryn’s shuffled off of at least _this_ mortal coil.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/403 "2012-02-20T21:46:29Z")

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I don’t think booth was adding pages - of course he could have been - I took it that he was restoring the book after whatever happened to it at the playground.

Of course, if he added pages - Henry will notice that pretty quickly - and could be a way for abc to extend the series beyond what we all think would be its inevitable conclusion.

As for Kathryn - I take it this means her current story line is done as far as the town’s citizens are concerned, I don;t think she died - but I do think her ‘true love’ will find her as well.

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**Author:** ![Kasper1014](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c89c15/32.png) [@Kasper1014](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kasper1014)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/404 "2012-02-20T22:36:15Z")

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I wondered if he added pages…replacing the pages Henry had taken out at the beginning of the series…

I’m glad this series is not getting boring.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/405 "2012-02-20T22:45:28Z")

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> [@Kasper1014](#):
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> I wondered if he added pages…replacing the pages Henry had taken out at the beginning of the series…
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> I’m glad this series is not getting boring.

The ones Henry/Emma took out were at the end of the book - he was ‘shown’ working in the middle - conveniently at the same spot of the book we needed to know.

Henry will definitely see/recognize if those have been restored.

I wonder if instead of adding, if he removed anything - He did tell Henry it was important to ‘remember it all’ or something like that when Henry was writing it all down.

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**Author:** ![Kasper1014](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c89c15/32.png) [@Kasper1014](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kasper1014)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/406 "2012-02-20T22:52:10Z")

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That’s a good point! Now to weight two weeks…ugh!

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/407 "2012-02-21T03:24:01Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> Ah, it’s been suggested that Booth was adding pages, and the process shown was aging them so as not to look out-of-place. That makes sense to me (and fits with him as a writer).

I thought he was just repairing it. Henry had tore out some pages, and the whole thing had been buried in sand for quite awhile. As to why he was putting stuff in the middle, it looked like he took the whole thing apart so he could sew it back together properly.

> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> But given what I take to be a subdued but gleeful look in Regina’s eyes I’m going to assume Kathryn’s shuffled off of at least _this_ mortal coil.

Am I imagining things or did Frederick show up at her car? or was that next week’s preview?

Of course we knew she couldn’t leave. But I kind of want Emma to do what the smart person would do in this situation, and get a large group of people together, take a bus to just outside the border, and see what happens when everyone tries to walk across the border.

I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Kathryn, given that we saw her run into Fred. It seems kind of weird that he’s a high school student though.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/408 "2012-02-21T04:23:45Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> I thought he was just repairing it. Henry had tore out some pages, and the whole thing had been buried in sand for quite awhile. As to why he was putting stuff in the middle, it looked like he took the whole thing apart so he could sew it back together properly.
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> Am I imagining things or did Frederick show up at her car? or was that next week’s preview?
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> Of course we knew she couldn’t leave. But I kind of want Emma to do what the smart person would do in this situation, and get a large group of people together, take a bus to just outside the border, and see what happens when everyone tries to walk across the border.
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> I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Kathryn, given that we saw her run into Fred. It seems kind of weird that he’s a high school student though.

It was not your imagination and it wasn’t in the preview - and he’s not - I took it he was the gym teacher or soccer coach.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/409 "2012-02-21T04:42:22Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> It was not your imagination and it wasn’t in the preview - and he’s not - I took it he was the gym teacher or soccer coach.

I thought he was wearing a school uniform. I figured poor Fred got Midas’d when he and Abigail were younger and she’d been moping about him for 15 or so years. She aged, he didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/410 "2012-02-21T05:42:24Z")

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Remember when Ashley tried to leave and had a car accident but didn’t disappear? I think Regina did the same thing to Kathryn that she did to the sheriff.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/411 "2012-02-21T06:12:28Z")

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I thought he probably changed some pages.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/412 "2012-02-21T16:45:43Z")

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I don’t remember if this has been mentioned before, but I love how the wallpapers in both Granny’s Diner and the mayor’s house are trees/the woods. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/413 "2012-02-21T18:05:13Z")

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Could Regina have Katherine locked away in the hospital where Belle is? We still don’t know if there are others being held there.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/414 "2012-02-21T18:06:01Z")

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Fred is the gym teacher according to the credits. (played by [Greyston Holt](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1625795/))

Brian

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/415 "2012-02-21T21:25:33Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> Ah, it’s been suggested that Booth was adding pages, and the process shown was aging them so as not to look out-of-place. That makes sense to me (and fits with him as a writer).

It looked like the pages he was adding had the “Gold Knight” on them…maybe I am just imagining…?

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**Author:** ![all1966](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@all1966](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/all1966)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/416 "2012-02-21T23:47:31Z")

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The guy playing Frederick has been busy - he’s also the young police officer Hauser back in 1963 in “Alcatraz”.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/417 "2012-02-22T00:54:45Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> I thought he was just repairing it. Henry had tore out some pages, and the whole thing had been buried in sand for quite awhile. As to why he was putting stuff in the middle, it looked like he took the whole thing apart so he could sew it back together properly.

This was my impression as well.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/418 "2012-02-22T01:00:30Z")

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How is it that Kathryn could have left storybrooke at one point but now can’t leave again? Simply because she’s now relevant? Or does the Mayor actually control who can and can’t leave the town?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/419 "2012-02-22T06:39:53Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> How is it that Kathryn could have left storybrooke at one point but now can’t leave again? Simply because she’s now relevant? Or does the Mayor actually control who can and can’t leave the town?

When did Kathryn leave?

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-edited-title/600574/420 "2012-02-25T00:47:23Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> When did Kathryn leave?

Yeah, so far only Henry has been established as ever leaving. I don’t think Emma’s even left since first arriving. She tried once but saw a wolf and drove off the road and hit a sign or something to that effect.

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