# Once Upon A Time - the rest of Season Two **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955 "2013-03-04T01:16:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/81 "2013-04-22T23:09:24Z")
> [@Chanteuse](#): > > Yeah–I’m thinking that Regina threw some little spell/curse on Belle with that matchbook that has nothing to do with who she was before in Storybrooke (if that’s who Belle had been before the curse broke, that’s who she would’ve reverted to from the time she crossed the town line). I believe she did it so that “Lacey” would be attracted to the darkness in Gold. Then he would quit fighting it, and end up screwing things up with Bae–and Henry–for good. Plus, she just likes making Rumple miserable. Belle hadn’t really been anyone in Storybrooke back before the curse broke, she was just locked up in Regina’s secret looney bin. That said, I agree completely that Lacey is all Regina’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![iftheresaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecae2f/32.png) [@iftheresaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iftheresaway)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/82 "2013-04-22T23:25:36Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > And I think Regina does not belive that Gold didn’t know that Henry was Emma’s son. I certainly don’t. Did they change the enire staff fo writers between season one and two? I think you’ve got it backwards - Gold didn’t know that Bae was Neal was Henry’s Dad. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/83 "2013-04-23T03:52:26Z")
Gold said in this last episode that he did not know Henry was Emma’s son, and did not know that Bae/Neal was Henry’s father. Having watched all of season one, it seems to me highly unlikely that a boy born in outside of Main could get adopted in Storeybrook. Who went out of Storeybrook to obtain a particular child? When Regina was repeating the same day over and over in the first few days of the curse, Gold said he didn’t know anything about curses or Rumpelstiltskin and she believed him. Why did she then turn to him to get her a child? Why did the first season writers set up all these great possible scenarios and the season two writers have ignored or just fucked up all that foreshadowing? ---
**Author:** ![Bpelta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Bpelta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bpelta)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/84 "2013-04-29T01:50:16Z")
_bump_ Felt like filler to me this week. We learned how the evil queen became super-evil. She went on a little side quest to destroy the town but was captured by the evil newcomers, who we still don’t know much about. Henry and Emma are onto Tamara, but they got nothing on her. Huzzah. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/85 "2013-04-29T03:24:02Z")
Yeah, especially didn’t see the point of tonight’s flashback. It’s pretty obvious that Regina still hates Snow in present day, so any softening she had on that position in the flashback was going to be temporary at best. Didn’t really find out anything new. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/86 "2013-04-29T03:44:57Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Yeah, especially didn’t see the point of tonight’s flashback. It’s pretty obvious that Regina still hates Snow in present day, so any softening she had on that position in the flashback was going to be temporary at best. Didn’t really find out anything new. Well, in a way we did learn something new - That Snow will never learn, that she is quite forgetful, and cannot stand by her convictions even when faced with overwhelming evidence. To wit - she repeatedly thinks there is some possible way for Regina to redeem herself - even in current time - meaning that she has already forgotten all the death and destruction Regina has caused. It was cute - but its repetitive, and its getting very boring. However - Rumplestiltskin was pure Gold… “Well, you did just slaughter an entire village, what did you think they would do?” “I said you could call, didn’t say I’d come”. ---
**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/87 "2013-04-29T15:40:55Z")
I agree with **Bpelta** ; this was a filler episode, though I like the fact that, for once, Regina seems to be in real jeopardy. My problem with emphasizing the magic has been that the conflict becomes too asymmetrical. I’m not that big a fan of the Storybrooke newcomers, but if they can effectively counteract the magic that technology might even up the sides in any future conflict. My whole family watches the show, and that includes my 9-year-old son. After the scene where Regina tells her plan to Henry and then causes him to forget it, he simply said “Boy, that was stupid.” I asked him why he thought that, and he said “They did that just to tell us her plan.” If a story hole is bad enough that a nine-year-old can spot it (even if his father thinks he’s exceptionally bright), that’s a red flag that things are getting out of hand. Regina really needs to get more integrated with the rest of the characters… ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/88 "2013-04-29T21:22:34Z")
I agree, Snow is really quite dumb. For instance, all the burned down beans. “Who could have done this?” asks Snow. “Regina, duh. Who the hell else would be interested in doing so you moron?” respond the viewers. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/89 "2013-04-29T21:25:08Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I agree, Snow is really quite dumb. For instance, all the burned down beans. “Who could have done this?” asks Snow. “Regina, duh. Who the hell else would be interested in doing so you moron?” respond the viewers. Was that Snow or the equally intelligent Charming? ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/90 "2013-04-29T22:50:38Z")
If any of them were smart they would take some beans and hide them on the off chance that something like this would happen. Also, a machine that counteracts magic? I’m willing to suspend my disbelief that a person can conjure up fireballs and teleport themselves other places and so on, but how the hell could you build a machine to counteract all that? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/91 "2013-04-29T23:08:44Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > If any of them were smart they would take some beans and hide them on the off chance that something like this would happen. > > Also, a machine that counteracts magic? I’m willing to suspend my disbelief that a person can conjure up fireballs and teleport themselves other places and so on, but how the hell could you build a machine to counteract all that? Especially if magic is so exceedingly rare that you wouldn’t have the opportunity to study it to perfect said device. And what was up with Maleficent? Last we saw, she was a Dragon and had been skewered by our heroine - is this V2? ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/92 "2013-04-29T23:28:37Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Also, a machine that counteracts magic? I’m willing to suspend my disbelief that a person can conjure up fireballs and teleport themselves other places and so on, but how the hell could you build a machine to counteract all that? Maybe they’re nano machines that only have two tasks, to absorb magic, and to replicate. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/93 "2013-04-30T00:17:17Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Maybe they’re nano machines that only have two tasks, to absorb magic, and to replicate. what a revolutionary idea… ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/94 "2013-04-30T02:41:14Z")
> [@simster](#): > > And what was up with Maleficent? Last we saw, she was a Dragon and had been skewered by our heroine - is this V2? It was just a flesh wound. Edit: Regina said she went through a lot but the magic was sustaining her. As for magic, apparently there’s plenty of it in Asia. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/95 "2013-04-30T02:43:12Z")
> [@simster](#): > > what a revolutionary idea… I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/96 "2013-04-30T02:58:05Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > It was just a flesh wound. Edit: Regina said she went through a lot but the magic was sustaining her. > > As for magic, apparently there’s plenty of it in Asia. I thought the line was that the magic was sustaining her/keeping her trapped in the form she was in when the curse was released and trapped her there. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/97 "2013-04-30T04:00:32Z")
Maybe. At any rate, I guess after her last encounter she was merely wounded and not killed. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/98 "2013-04-30T04:24:40Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Maybe. At any rate, I guess after her last encounter she was merely wounded and not killed. Sure - moreso just pointing out the inconsistency - they can do better, but it seems they no longer think they have to try as hard - so they dont. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/99 "2013-04-30T05:19:17Z")
I agree 100%. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955/100 "2013-05-01T23:41:56Z")
> [@simster](#): > > what a revolutionary idea… 😉 I was hoping someone would get it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-upon-a-time-the-rest-of-season-two/651955.md?page=6)