# One (Good) Sequel Only - The Rarest of Hollywood Feats **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 4, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294 "2008-07-04T14:28:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/21 "2008-07-05T00:21:38Z")
The spolier boxes are only for those who bothered actually reading the OP. [QUOTE=minlokwat] To that end I propose that there is only one successful accomplishment with these criteria and that I will wager the following: I will spoiler box my offering and ask that the first ten responders -assuming we can get ten- to not view the contents. I am certain that amongst those 10 respondents, at least 8 will be the same as my spoiler boxed film and if not - I will eat a bug. [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/22 "2008-07-05T01:34:41Z")
Alright. Just got back from a somewhat soggy 4th of J. celebration. You people, I swear. Because of the dearth of serious respondents, I am going to declare the wager null and void and reward the winning post to be my very own. Surely we can agree that this is the only reasonable and fair thing to do. And so it seems that the One Quality Sequel film pairing is as rare as its near-identical cousin from the music industry, the Two-Hit-Wonder. I’m out. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/23 "2008-07-05T02:20:30Z")
Except, my friend, Toy Story doesn’t count in your own rules because there’s a third one being made even as we speak. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/24 "2008-07-05T02:32:19Z")
I liked _Cotton Comes to Harlem_ (1970) and its one sequel _Come Back, Charleston Blue_ (1972). _A Rage in Harlem_ (1991) was based on another novel by the same author and has some characters in common, but I wouldn’t consider the film related to the first two. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/25 "2008-07-05T05:49:50Z")
Clerks and Clerks II? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/26 "2008-07-05T06:14:24Z")
_Meet the Parents_ and _Meet the Fokkers._ The concept kinda logically precludes a third. ---
**Author:** ![wayward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a87d85/32.png) [@wayward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wayward)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/27 "2008-07-05T09:25:16Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] _Meet the Parents_ and _Meet the Fokkers._ The concept kinda logically precludes a third. [/QUOTE] [And yet…](http://www.movieweb.com/news/38/17938.php) ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/28 "2008-07-05T12:42:46Z")
Terms of Endearment/The Evening Star Chinatown/The Two Jakes The Hustler/The Color of Money ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/29 "2008-07-05T12:50:52Z")
I didn’t know about the making of **Toy Story 3** but am not surprised. It’s in keeping with the age-old American notion of ‘If something works, then let’s run it into the ground.’ ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/30 "2008-07-05T13:18:26Z")
_Toy Story 2_’s plot was originally a last resort idea, in case the first one failed. Pixar really didn’t know how their movies were going to be received. They decided to crib the story they had planned originally for the first _Toy Story_ and use it for _2_, which they also decided should be a straight-to-video title, a standard Disney practice. After _Toy Story 1_ came out to great acclaim, and _A Bug’s Life_ looked set to be equally popular (it turned out it wasn’t, but it was still a success) they changed their minds about the format for _2_, and made it for theatrical release. Many years later, when Disney was still being run by a maniac, and Pixar had fulfilled their contract with them, Disney decided to take control of the _Toy Story_ characters and make a _Toy Story 3_ without Pixar’s goodwill. A cry of dismay was heard from animation fans around the world. Then Michael Eisner retired, and Pixar and Disney merged more deliberately, and _Toy Story 3_ was immediately scrapped (it was the _very_ first thing that happened after the merger). Except… I think Pixar were inspired by what almost happened to come up with a story (I’m sure their story guys read the Disney invented premise and said “No! If you’re gonna make a sequel, it should be about _this!_”), because now a new _Toy Story 3_ is being prepped, based on this completely different story idea to Disney’s. Pixar always say they will only make a sequel if they have a good story to tell, which is why there’s no hint of an _Incredibles_ sequel (Brad Bird has not formulated a story for it). Their storytelling has been top notch every time so far (sure, some people don’t like some of the films as much as others, but as we have seen there’s no consensus on which is good or bad, so that means they have an audience they can tap no matter what they make) so I think you can trust that _Toy Story 3_ will be equally as good, and may be better, than what has gone before. Sorry for the parentheses bombardment. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/31 "2008-07-05T13:23:56Z")
Men in Black/Men in Black II Yes, I really did like MIB II! ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/32 "2008-07-05T19:38:40Z")
> [@](#): > > Not Hollywood, but\* Jean de Florette \* and _Manon of the Spring_. LOVE. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/33 "2008-07-05T19:52:00Z")
No love for _The Addams Family_ and _Addams Family Values_? ---
**Author:** ![Baine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Baine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baine)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/34 "2008-07-05T20:01:49Z")
Before Sunrise and Before Sunset. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/35 "2008-07-05T20:52:15Z")
[QUOTE=Zsofia] No love for _The Addams Family_ and _Addams Family Values_? [/QUOTE] I liked both of those, but had the impression it was the death of Raul Julia that prevented a third film, not some uncharacteristic Hollywood sense of respect for quality. As it is, there was a painfully unfunny television revival in 1998. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/36 "2008-07-06T12:22:06Z")
[QUOTE=Krokodil] The Hustler/The Color of Money [/QUOTE] Doesn’t satisfy the conditions of the OP. The only features in common between the two films were that they were adapted from novels by the same author and Newman as Fast Eddie Felson. No production staff in common, no other actors returning from the original (since either they or their characters were dead). Plus the OP wants quality sequels, and TCoM sucked. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/37 "2008-07-06T12:43:24Z")
Airplane I and II ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/38 "2008-07-07T15:31:39Z")
[QUOTE=Lakai] Clerks and Clerks II? [/QUOTE] You didn’t see _Clerks II_ did you? (Or you missed the part where the OP said “a follow-up that is as good as the first.”) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/39 "2008-07-07T15:42:05Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] > [@Zsofia](#): > > No love for The Addams Family and Addams Family Values? I liked both of those, but had the impression it was the death of Raul Julia that prevented a third film, not some uncharacteristic Hollywood sense of respect for quality. As it is, there was a painfully unfunny television revival in 1998. [/QUOTE] [There was a third film.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146402/) It was just directed by a different director and had a different cast, but was certainly Hollywood trying to milk the franchise for one more squirt of cash. Addams Family isn’t in the running for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294/40 "2008-07-07T16:06:25Z")
**The Godfather** and **The Godfather II** , of course. Some silly folks will tell you that there was a third installment in that series, but nope! It NEVER EVER HAPPENED!!! Seriously though, how about **the Last Picture Show** and **Texasville**? Although I didn’t see the second film, so I can’t give an opinion whether it’s good or not. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-good-sequel-only-the-rarest-of-hollywood-feats/455294.md?page=3)