# One less genocidial egomaniac ... Milosevic is dead.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 11, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950 "2006-03-11T16:53:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cynical\_Optimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Cynical\_Optimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cynical_Optimist)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/61 "2006-03-13T13:45:04Z")

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Slobodan Milosevic: Europe’s answer to Idi Amin (but with better culinary sense).

And forget the pineapples, this guy needs a jalapeno suppository STAT.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/62 "2006-03-13T13:54:00Z")

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> [@Cynical Optimist](#):
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> Slobodan Milosevic: Europe’s answer to Idi Amin (but with better culinary sense).

I dunno, Idi was rumored to mix up one heck of a BBQ sauce.  
And he was a _much_ snappier dresser.

> [@Cynical Optimist](#):
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> And forget the pineapples, this guy needs a jalapeno suppository STAT.

Jalapeno eyewash, if you please.

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**Author:** ![Mellivora\_capensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mellivora\_capensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mellivora_capensis)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/63 "2006-03-13T14:18:50Z")

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> [@tagos](#):
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> Nationalism and patriotism are a disease.

Agreed, except when it involves cricket.

438!!!

😃

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/64 "2006-03-13T15:58:55Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> That’d be great. Then we could hitch up with Gum and Kimstu. Of couse once drinks are up, I’ll be forced to put your head on a stake and sell your wife into slavery at a Turkish harem for the awful crime of mistaking Denmark for the less deserving Netherlands. Nothing personal, but the law is the law.

:smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack:

Goddammit! Why can I never remember that simple little fact?!!? Heartfelt apologies.

Though my wife be adventurous enough to actually want to be part of a harem. Of course, since I’ll be dead I won’t reap any benefits from it. Bastard. 😛

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/65 "2006-03-13T16:07:16Z")

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> [@Mellivora capensis](#):
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> Agreed, except when it involves cricket.
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> 438!!!
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> 😃

Preach it, brother!

As for Milosevic, there’s a **New Model Army** lyric I like dragging out on such occasions:  
“I believe in Justice, I believe in vengeance, I believe in getting the bastard!”

Although right now it looks like unintentional suicide as he was possibly secretly taking medication to make his other meds ineffective, so he could go to Russia, apparently.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/66 "2006-03-13T16:08:19Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> So there’s no reason to hold him responsible for anything done before that “election”?

I didn’t say that.

> [@duffer](#):
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> He relinquished his throne. “Just kidding!” All is well and good.

Nicaraguan Sandinistas were also pushing hardline ideological oppression for a decade, plunged their country into civil war, encountered growing external pressure, particularly from US (many thanks to St. Ronnie!) and finally allowed elections that they were confident they could control. Now they are legitimate opposition party. Why nobody clamoring for their heads now?

Allowing elections in Communist or Fascist countries deserves a huge credit. Remember, there could be machine guns detachments and streets full of blood.

> [@duffer](#):
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> He wasn’t a Tito, but Tito avoided civil war.

By what means?

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/67 "2006-03-13T17:06:47Z")

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An excellent [NY Times article](http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/12/international/europe/12assess.html) on his death (NY Times requires free registration).

From the article:

> [@New York Times](#):
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> “My aim is to present the truth, and that takes time,” the former Serbian president told the tribunal …
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> In fact, the truth for Mr. Milosevic was always a commodity to be manipulated in the single-minded pursuit of power. Everyone — Croats reinvented as World War II fascists, Bosnian Muslims recast as marauding Ottoman Turks, multiplying Kosovo Albanians redrawn as agents of “demographic genocide” against the Serbs — was fit material for Mr. Milosevic’s overriding myth of Serbian suffering.

Good riddance. Rot in hell, Slobo.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/68 "2006-03-13T17:17:08Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> Nicaraguan Sandinistas were also pushing hardline ideological oppression for a decade, plunged their country into civil war, encountered growing external pressure, particularly from US (many thanks to St. Ronnie!) and finally allowed elections that they were confident they could control. Now they are legitimate opposition party. Why nobody clamoring for their heads now?

You keep getting the “details” of your statements slightly off, (about one Astronomical Unit, usually).

The Sandanista civil war was the one in which they took power. Once they were in power, the “civil war” was simply a matter of the U.S. funding the old, repressive Somosista National Guard to go back in and reconquer the country.

The Sandanistas held elections twice, on schedule, without pressure. The pressure on the already scheduled elections was the external interference that the U.S. imposed that helped Ortega win the first one by “standing up” to the U.S. and helped Chamorro win the second one because the voters thought that the U.S. would call off its dogs if Ortega was ousted.

“St. Ronnie” did nothing in Nicaragua but needlessly prolong a civil war that had been winding down by an additional 8 - 10 years, provide weapons to Iran, provide funds to Middle Eastern terrorists, and provide those same M.E. terrorists with a financial incentive to kidnap Americans. Good job, Ronnie.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/69 "2006-03-14T17:46:38Z")

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Contortionists of the world, unite!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/70 "2006-03-14T17:53:16Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Good riddance. Rot in hell, Slobo.

I read that as “Rot in Soho,” for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/71 "2006-03-14T19:21:22Z")

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> [@Cynical Optimist](#):
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> Slobodan Milosevic: Europe’s answer to Idi Amin (but with better culinary sense).
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> And forget the pineapples, this guy needs a jalapeno suppository STAT.

What has that poor jalapeño done to you, eh?

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/72 "2006-03-17T16:12:23Z")

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If Slobo goes to Hell, can we also send his apologists and defenders there?

> [@](#):
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> In Kosovo the same forces — weaker now — lined up against Nato involvement as had argued against any military action over Bosnia. There were the relativists questioning why we should intervene here, when we hadn’t in Burma, Tibet or Zimbabwe. There were the lawyers arguing that military action without the imprimatur of the United Nations might be illegal. There were the anti-Americans, who suggested that the motivation for military action was some hitherto unsuspected strategic or economic interest. There was Pinter saying that Bill Clinton and Tony Blair were the real criminals, not Slobodan Milosevic.

[Why does it all sound so familiar](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-6-2084190-6,00.html)?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2006, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/73 "2006-03-18T01:19:07Z")

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So what’s your point? That Slobbo wasn’t the only psycho mudering bastard in the world? Are you reaching for some sort of equivalence? My only regret is that Slobbo killed himself through stupidity - he was self prescribing drugs in order to play sick and get to Russia. I would have preferred that he swing from a rope or slowly die in agony from a horrible disease. He was no damn good, and no amount of denial, spinning or outright lying will change that one bit.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/74 "2006-03-18T22:12:55Z")

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From everything I read Slobo was a genocidal sociopath.

However, I have heard conflicting reports on Kosovo. That is, the ethnic Albanians who moved there are a recent development and that they don’t have a particularly solid claim on the area.

Not trying in any way shape of form to defend Slobo but just curious if I am way off base on Kosovo.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-less-genocidial-egomaniac-milosevic-is-dead/347950/75 "2006-03-19T00:23:54Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> If Slobo goes to Hell, can we also send his apologists and defenders there??

I thnk I’m starting to like you 🙂

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