# One little thing you wish you could change in a movie

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**Created:** [January 14, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-little-thing-you-wish-you-could-change-in-a-movie/1012944 "2025-01-14T00:39:33Z")\
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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> > Nope. Maybe.
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> Yeah, wiki sometimes get a weird “editor” that adds something that isnt true, but isnt obviously false. Like the “lost” verse of Rock Candy Mountain.

The original source may lie buried in some dank corner of the web, or in some MGM warehouse somewhere. In a lot of these cases the cites in question simply chase each other’s tails, and it may be impossible to get to the bottom of things. All of the principals are long dead so can’t get anything from them either. I believe there is an authoritative book on the making of the film and perhaps the plot point in question is there.

[The Making of The Wizard of Oz Paperback – Illustrated, October 1, 2013 by Aljean Harmetz](https://www.amazon.com/Making-Wizard-Oz-Aljean-Harmetz/dp/1613748329)

Maybe someone who has this can check.

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Not quite sure that I would actually want to see it, but there is a bit at the end of _Time Bandits_ that suggested the possibility of a sequel. The kid has a photograph of the dwarves holding up the map. So, he had the map, which left open all manner of possibilities. Sequels often suck, but not always. Especially if they go off in a completely different direction.

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I mean, there’s changing the past, and there’s changing the past; I kind of figured that, so long as he refrained from making changes that’d contradict the events of ENDGAME, no harm done?

There is support for this courtesy of the Loki TV series where we see graphics that clearly show variant universes only get trimmed if they stray outside of a defined line. They can and do branch off (which is why there are four Punishers etc.) but so long as they stay within certain loosely defined parameters, they are fine.

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Yes but in the original timeline he went sleeping (and not aging…) in the artic ice shelf for 50 years. Peggy (the love interest) helped create an worldwide organization, but unfortunately deeply infiltrated by Nazis. Cap was a war hero and celebrity, so his reapparition would have an inescapable impact.His best friend was captured by those same Nazis and brainwashed into assassinating various world leaders.So Cap had to lay low and let countless murders and other nastiness happens, just so he can live with Peggy? That’s a level of selfishness that is totally in opposition of his previously established character (ready to put himself in danger to save others, loyal and lawful good in the extreme)

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Oh god no - the ending of The Mist is one of the best endings of all time!

I agree …

… but …

… the ending of the story is more atmospheric (see what I did there?).

_[suggestion: go listen to the audiobook before you read the spoiler. It’s short, we’ll wait here…]_

The driver explains to the reader that it’s probably hopeless but he’s pushing on, because he thought he heard, layered with the static from the car radio, a scrap of one word. “Providence”.

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Hang on there a minute. My version says Hartford. What gives?

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“Hartford.”  
That’s my **burpo**! 😁

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Guess who **D\_Beetle** and **burpo** buy their insurance from? 😆

OK, before the inevitable slug fest begins, the version of **The Mist** I had for years was more of a radio play than an audiobook. The David Drayton character was voiced by William Sadler, who played Jim in the movie. Am I the outlier here? BTW, it was a very well done version.

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Hang on there a minute. My version says Hartford. What gives?

Ooh, so sorry. What gives, or rather gives out, is my memory…

Hey, it’s been a while. Hmm, would my version be better, or too pat?

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Now see, I didn’t make that connection until you pointed it out just now; clever. Is your audiobook read by someone or is it the radio play-type version I had for years?

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Mine was just read by one (breathy, desperate) narrator. I think it was Will Patton.

It might have been as far back as 1980 when it was first published in [Dark Forces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Forces_(book)), or probably 1985 when the book [Skeleton Crew](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeleton_Crew_(short_story_collection)) came out, with _The Mist_ being one of two novellas in it.

But we’ve already established that my memory’s… well, _creative,_ so who knows?

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No biggie; just didn’t want to step on any toes. Here’s the radio drama version, worth a listen:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gLDr0FN1W1g/maxresdefault.jpg "The Mist - Stephen King | DRAMA TIME with BBC") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLDr0FN1W1g)

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I know a lot of people love the ending of the movie version of The Mist, but I far prefer the novella’s ending. Whenever I rewatch it, I always turn it off just before they run out of gas.

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There was a TV series sequel

> **[Time Bandits (TV series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Bandits_(TV_series))**
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> Time Bandits is a fantasy adventure television series created by Jemaine Clement, Iain Morris, and Taika Waititi, based on characters from the 1981 film of the same name directed by Terry Gilliam. The series premiered on July 24, 2024, on Apple TV+. In September 2024, the series was canceled after one season.
> The series is described as a comedic journey through time and space with a ragtag group of thieves and their newest recruit: an eleven-year-old history nerd.

Brian

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> There was a TV series sequel

Actually, a remake. The last scene of the last episode made it seem like it might have been a prequel. It wasn’t picked up for a second season so I guess we’ll never know.

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She may miss the Scarecrow the most, because he was the first of her three companions.

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In ‘Die Hard’ when McClane meets Hans Gruber in person and Gruber pretends to be one of the hostages, there’s no explanation for how McClane knew who Gruber was, to give him an unloaded gun.

I’ve heard there was a cut scene that explained how McClane knew who Gruber was.

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If only they’d cast someone besides Mary Astor in the role of the femme fatale who lures Sam Spade down the garden path.

Gene Tierney, Veronica Lake or Ida Lupino would all have been much better choices. Mary Astor just didn’t have it.

And yes, kill the waking-up-from-a-dream at the end of _The Wizard of Oz_. It really happened, you know.

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> [@solost](#):
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> In ‘Die Hard’ when McClane meets Hans Gruber in person and Gruber pretends to be one of the hostages, there’s no explanation for how McClane knew who Gruber was, to give him an unloaded gun.

Oh I always just liked the explanation that John isn’t reckless enough to give a scared citizen a loaded gun.

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> Oh I always just liked the explanation that John isn’t reckless enough to give a scared citizen a loaded gun.

Well, if that were the case, why would he hand the citizen a gun at all? Giving someone a gun in order to defend themselves that they _think_ is loaded, but is not, would be hugely irresponsible.

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