# One Night Ultimate Werewolf game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 15, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500 "2015-12-15T04:11:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/61 "2015-12-16T03:01:35Z")

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Normally I’d say lynch the lurker. But Wolverine is the lurker, and he may have been switched with me, which makes me the lurker !? :D:smack:

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/62 "2015-12-16T03:02:52Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Try this again.
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> Night actions (only) in order, with claims (subject to further validation):
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> 1. Seer - Inner Stickler, who state the Insomniac and the Tanner were not chosen. OR, Mahaloth, no extra information given.
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> 2. Robber - Texcat, who switched with Johnny Bravo (the Drunk), leaving Johnny as one of the unchosen.
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> 3. Troublemaker - if Sachertorte, he switched Mahaloth and Hooker. If Biotop, he switched Me (Prof. P). and Wolverine.
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> 4. Drunk - was Johnny Bravo, was switched to TexCat, whose role was switched with one of the unknowns.
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> 5. Insomniac - The Insomniac will be told what their role is after all the other Night actions. Nobody’s claimed this one yet, unless I’m mistaken.  
> I was a Mason. Am I still one? What was Wolverine? Inquiring minds want to know!

I don’t see why a Mason would withhold the other Mason’s original ID in this particular game…enlighten me as to why, or just spill the beans.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/63 "2015-12-16T03:04:53Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> I don’t see why a Mason would withhold the other Mason’s original ID in this particular game…enlighten me as to why, or just spill the beans.

Easy. I’m still a newbie player for the most part. There may be playing techniques a more experienced player would like to advance than I’m aware of, which would require his anonymity. He can now do these safely as he knows I will eventually back him up. And, I trust, he will (if necessary) back me up before the scheduled lynching.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/64 "2015-12-16T03:05:09Z")

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I agree that there’s zero reason to keep your fellow Mason’s identity secret. This isn’t normal Mafia where there’s a benefit to keeping secrets. Lagtime gives the wolves/tanner more time to consider lies.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/65 "2015-12-16T03:06:25Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Easy. I’m still a newbie player for the most part. There may be playing techniques a more experienced player would like to advance than I’m aware of, which would require his anonymity. He can now do these safely as he knows I will eventually back him up.

Can the Masons (or even the wolves, for that matter) converse with each other secretly?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/66 "2015-12-16T03:07:30Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I agree that there’s zero reason to keep your fellow Mason’s identity secret. This isn’t normal Mafia where there’s a benefit to keeping secrets. Lagtime gives the wolves/tanner more time to consider lies.

Maybe so, but at this point I’m not even sure whose side I’m on.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/67 "2015-12-16T03:07:50Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> What possible motivation would you have for claiming Seer but not telling us what you saw?

None. I was just popping in, but I’m back now.

I looked at Wolverine and learned he is the Tanner.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/68 "2015-12-16T03:08:48Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Can the Masons (or even the wolves, for that matter) converse with each other secretly?

I wish. But then, I may not be a Mason anymore, so, if not, then I couldn’t even if I could before. Contrariwise, if it were so, it wouldn’t be, and as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s logic.

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**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/69 "2015-12-16T03:09:39Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Can the Masons (or even the wolves, for that matter) converse with each other secretly?

There is no out-of-thread communication between players in this game.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/70 "2015-12-16T03:09:49Z")

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So, IF Mahaloth is correct, and Biotop is correct, I’m the Tanner.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/71 "2015-12-16T03:10:14Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Maybe so, but at this point I’m not even sure whose side I’m on.

And the other Mason probably isn’t sure what side they are on now either. I say spill it!

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/72 "2015-12-16T03:10:18Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Normally I’d say lynch the lurker. But Wolverine is the lurker, and he may have been switched with me, which makes me the lurker !? :D:smack:

Sorry, I’m at work right now and will be busy all day (for China). I’m following but can’t really post more in-depth analysis. I am (was?) a villager.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/73 "2015-12-16T03:11:17Z")

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> [@MentalGuy](#):
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> There is no out-of-thread communication between players in this game.

Thanks you, sir. Good to know.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/74 "2015-12-16T03:11:28Z")

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Sorry. I just saw Mahaloth’s post. He’s right. I was the Tanner and am no longer.

Sorry Prof. Pepperwinkle.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/75 "2015-12-16T03:11:33Z")

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Wolverine confirming Mahaloth. Or are they both wolves?

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/76 "2015-12-16T03:14:16Z")

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Claimed starting roles:  
Inner Stickler, Seer  
Biotop, Troublemaker  
snfaulkner, Villager  
Prof. Pepperwinkle, Mason  
TexCat, Robber  
HookerChemical, Mason  
Wolverine, Villager  
Mahaloth, Seer  
Johnny Bravo, Drunk  
sachertorte, Troublemaker

Prof, I assumed Hooker was your fellow mason?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/77 "2015-12-16T03:15:44Z")

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I’ll wait for Hooker before I answer that.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/78 "2015-12-16T03:16:47Z")

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And I’m now unsure of what Wolverine is now claiming his starting role was. Villager or Tanner?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/79 "2015-12-16T03:18:41Z")

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Wolverine changed his stated role from villager to tanner after he read Mahaloth’s post.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-night-ultimate-werewolf-game/740500/80 "2015-12-16T03:18:45Z")

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My problem is if Biotop is a werewolf because I might have confessed prematurely and given myself a losing position :smack:. Regardless, Inner Stickler is a werewolf because I was given the Tanner role.

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