G > If I am reading it correctly, the fact that I don’t live in the city limits would make a huge difference, even on the side of the shooter. Right?
gotta go doctor my WMD. be back in an hour.
When come back, bring translation.
Correct.
I’m not Gfactor, but IAAL, so I’ll take a crack. First, as usual, I agree with Gfactor. (I also adopt his disclaimers.)
Assuming that your neighbor is also outside of city limits, then, yes, that does make a huge difference. City ordinances (except under very unusual circumstances) only apply in the city itself. So if the shooting happened outside of town, any city ordinances that Gfactor quoted would not apply. The statutes, however, would. (Statutes apply statewide.)
The only ordinances that apply in unincorporated areas (in most states) would be county ordinances. Some states have township ordinances that apply in unincorporated areas, but these would be unlikely to cover dog and gun issues.
Durn. He beat me to it.
Aw, shucks. :o
Excellent! Thank you Random and Gfactor and others.
If this creep causes trouble in the future now I am informed. And knowing if half the battle. … GI JOE
WMD > weapon of mass destruction
Well, there is ‘country livin’ and there is ‘out in the country’.
If I see a dog not known to me running towards me, it gets one yell. Then it dies. ( Did the neighbors know your dog. Did you take the dog over and introduce it to the neighbors when you or they moved in?)
Out in the country, a neighbor who brings the nice, never a problem dog, to your house, in the back of the pickup, knows that if the dog jumps out to chase the cat that was on your porch, he has until you get your gun to get his dog undercontrol. ( and the cat better not be harmed )
It’s called responsibility and control of your animals.
YMMV
It does. Considerably.
Your trigger finger seems awfully itchy.
GFactor, that’s great research–and why my first post asked for her jurisdiction. Laws obviously vary from area to area.
I’d still be very surprised if one can defend against a charge of animal cruelty by claiming that an animal was trespassing, but we’d need to see the county ordinance to be sure.
Daniel
Damn, I completely forgot to answer that. I guess it got buried under all the clarifying I was having to do. Sorry… :smack:
Not so unreasonnable. One of my brothers owned a lab who was very agressive.We wouldn’t let kids around it, and it once bite another of my brothers. So, you can’t just assume that a dog isn’t dangerous just because it’s a lab.
Besides, we’ve no clue about what the dog did in the man’s yard…For all we kinow maybe it began to devastate everything (Labs, especially young ones, tends to be quite hyperactive, and not very respecteful of items within their reach, IME)
I know nothing about laws, but couldn’t he argue (truthfully or not) that the dog behaved in a threatening way, hence giving him the right to defend himself?
I could not agree more that some of you country folk are way too quick to get your gun. Now I happen to live in a civilized suburban area where we don’t gleefully grab our guns everytime a dog runs through the yard. This danger argument is complete crap, are you that big of a pansy that a dog scares you forcing you to *defend * yourself with a gun? I know this isn’t the pit so I’ll just stop there, but c’mon people, try acting like rational adults who don’t shoot everytime they are annoyed. And yet people wonder where the redneck hick stereotype comes from. Now I understand why Bush won, I mean if shooting domesticated dogs is acceptable, so is shooting Iraqi’s. Ok, I’m really stopping now until we go to the pit.
He could try. But as I understand the OP, the shooter was not even in sight. How could the shooter be menaced by a dog that was nowhere near him?
Floyd, one can never predict an attack. Sometimes one can presume, in the case of an attack species or clearly identified attack dog. However, you are being overly crass and critical.
How many dog attacks have you survived personally? How many have you witnessed? Perhaps, and without becoming Pitful, you might share the source of your insight with us…
I have been attacked 4 times, between the ages of 5 and 32. I have witnessed several dog attacks , including one that left the 3 year old daughter of close friends mauled in the face.
So…your cite for your opinion?
Well Cantooniverse, I have been around hundreds of dogs in my lifetime and never once been attacked. And if I was attacked, there are ways to defend yourself that do not include getting a gun and killing the dog. For the record, I’m not talking about a bb gun but the use of a real gun that could and would kill the animal. Also, in this particular case, no one was in danger and the nutbar in the house just wanted an excuse to shoot his gun. Maybe out in the country you have all kinds of crazy ass dogs running around, but where I live, you would be in a world of hurt if you shot my dog while I was out on a walk and he wandered onto your grass.
It’s a 12 year old lab - that’s senior citizen status for a dog that size. In my experience, big old dogs pose little to no harm.
As I understand the OP, the dog wasn’t in sight, either. So, how could we know if it playing in the grass, munching on his stuff, threatening the gun’s owner, or just about to maul his 2 yo?