# One of the two major parties will likely be permanently defeated by Election Day 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 27, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053 "2020-10-27T19:04:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053/81 "2020-11-01T00:47:31Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > On appeal to SCOTUS the hyper-textual claim that only state legislatures and not state supreme courts can manage elections will be used as an excuse to uphold Judge Hanen’s ruling overturning the Texas Supreme Court. Kavanaugh already indicated in the Wisconsin ruling that this is the justification he will be using. This is what I’m predicting will occur. Absolutely. And also, the Supreme court will rule that State supreme courts can manage elections (in some other state), as long as THAT state supreme court rules in favor of Trump. Yes, they will be able to reconcile this. Heads Trump wins, Tails Trump wins will be their motto. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053/82 "2020-11-01T03:44:34Z")
Scenario 2A doesn’t even require such extensive action – all it would take is voting rights legislation that neutralizes the main GOP vote-suppression shenanigans (i.e. Congress using its power under the Elections Clause to set minimum required levels of early voting access, mail-in voting access, availability of sufficient voting stations, and the like) and the GOP is toast given demographic trends. (Neutralizing the legislative filibuster would be a necessary prerequisite for obvious reasons.) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053/83 "2020-11-01T03:50:30Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > I think that if the Democrats win and also take the Senate, there will be moves to change the electoral college to represent the actual numbers residing in a given state The only ways to do that are to amend the Constitution (in which case you might as well just replace the EC with a normal vote tally) or expand the House (giving each populous state a large extra batch of electors and diluting the weight of the ones that have 1 EV each for people, cows, and tumbleweeds). ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053/84 "2020-11-01T10:53:10Z")
I see no issue with any of those options as a matter of principle, the only issues are those of political will and practicality. The benefit would be a more transparent process and a far more robust and believable election process. One part that would need to be included would be a mechanism to handle future changes in population such that it would not require consitutional change, and I would expect that would need to include an electoral commission to oversee and verify the conduct of elections and the levels of representation. I really cannot see any justification for having any area whose vote is out of proportion to its population - are we not all created equal and does this not also include the right to decide who governs us? ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053/85 "2020-11-04T18:33:23Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > This is the only scenario that I can foresee where both parties survive. Biden wins, but the Republicans keep the senate. This might still devolve into one of the above scenarios, but there might be a slight chance both parties survive past 2024 in their current forms. Looks like this scenario is the most likely outcome. Just as when I first posted, I won’t pretend to know how this scenario will turn out. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053/86 "2020-11-04T19:58:41Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > Biden is re-elected. What is he? The Highlander??? ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053/87 "2020-11-04T20:10:41Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > What is he? The Highlander??? If only. Type on my part 😜 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/one-of-the-two-major-parties-will-likely-be-permanently-defeated-by-election-day-2024/924053.md?page=4)