And it’s Roddenberry.
Sorry, no, I was not actually paying attention to your opinion. Chalk it up to ignorance, not malice
Try Southland sometime-they just beep out the fucks. Exercise for the viewer which annoys more
Thanks, I knew it didn’t look right, but couldn’t seem to fix it.
Didn’t Picard and #1 have a running battle about this? (i.e. whether Picard would go into dangerous situations)
Nothing was ridiculed as such, but Sisko knew that the Bajoran’s religion was based upon worshiping aliens, not gods. And there was more evidence that they were aliens than say Q who pretty much had godlike powers.
From the episode “Who Mourns for Adonis?”:
Looks like not only is he a monotheist, he thinks everyone else is too.
My take on the captain, the first officer, and the ship’s surgeon placing themselves directly into harm’s way every week was not that this was the typical way of doing things. This was an extraordinary captain and crew that did things their own way. Star Fleet didn’t always approve, but they had to admit it produced results. And that’s why we weren’t following the adventures of the USS Constitution, where everything was done by the book and things were a lot less interesting.
The fact that later series more or less followed the same pattern is not the fault of the original series.
That just means the liberal-hippy religion won.
Heh ok, well in the OP there is a request for no spoilers.
Well I think the original series had a limited cast because of format and budget issues. TNG and DS9 could have done more with what they had but they didn’t.
I would’ve liked to see more nuanced character relationships, but I’ve also read the Jungian/Campbellian analyses of Star Trek and understand that each character represents a fundamental role in the human psyche and that’s why it works.
He wasn’t talking about himself?
‘mankind’ and ‘we’
Wait one minute here. Isn’t the Enterprise’s five year mission “to boldly go where no man has gone before”? I would presume that, in sending the ship off on that mission, they would staff the ship with officers who all are trained experts in exploration and contact with new species.
Certainly Spock as Science Officer/Executive Officer would be the right officer to lead an expedition, and subsequent XOs would presumably have the training and background to lead such missions.
Even when I was watching TOS, this jarred with me. Why send your most valuable assets on a reconnaissance? I rationalised it this way: transporters give you instantaneous access to and egress from a foreign environment, It just takes these top officers a few seconds to assess the situation, after which they may retreat and call on th redshirts. Redshirts haVe a patchy record
I took Grumman’s question as implying that Kirk was referring to himself as “the one,” which made me laugh out loud.
I’m long since over the fact that the Star Fleet security officers are useless and that Starfleet doesn’t have marines because they aren’t “military”(Seriously, they keep trying to claim that, regardless of how heavy their weapons are or the military based command structure).
And I’m almost over the fact there is no acklowdgement of enlisted people in starfleet(except for one chief, who is probably an officer with an enlisted title in starfleet). That is, if they exist at all. But then again, that seems to be how hollywood treats the Navy in General. Any given ship will have: A bunch of officers who the audience gets to know and care about, a bunch of random junior enlisted guys and one chief(The Sand Pebbles has been the only movie I’ve seen where the Enlisted guys are actually the focus of the movie and get due credit).
But they are still pulling the old “Only ship in the Quadrant” crap from EVERY OTHER MOVIE before this. Apparently the entire fleet is away in one system for…something, so they have to pull all the midshipmen with no experience from the academy to assign them to random ships and deal with the enemy threat.
Okay, there were 6 ships this time, but apparently all understaffed. And when those got destroyed at Vulcan, Earth was apparently defenseless, considering only the enterprise could save earth.
This bothered me, too. Where are the orbiting gun platforms? I’d have guns big enough to blow a hole through the moon protecting Earth, plus other assorted gadgets of such a nasty nature that invaders wouldn’t have time to know they no longer exist after you activated it. Death Star like shit capable of continuous fire. I mean really, it is your home planet, after all.
But, it seems that none of the different universes are into static defenses much.
Seems like they’re just taking their cue from real life: where are the United States’ massive, attack-by-sea-fighting-off static defenses?
It’s called ‘distance’. In the SF universes, distance isn’t a problem anymore. The static defenses that ring a planet should be enough, though, to prevent any random comparable enemy from expending its expensive space fleet to defeat them.
I still say they should just ditch the redshirts and have starfleet train some marines.
You know, for away missions and recon, and who aren’t totally useless at guarding any prisoners or providing security.
But since the federation is a utopia, Starfleet has abandoned anything resembling competent military tactics.
Or as Dark Helmet would say: “That is why Evil will always Triumph, because good is dumb”
Or just have a couple ships assigned to patrol the most important systems. Like Earth.
Or local defense forces, some kind of equivalent of the Air National Guard(Air force units usually stationed at major airports). At least something so that the enemy isn’t completely free to do whatever the hell they want if they catch the fleet away from home(which seems to be all the time).