# Ongoing Euro '08 matches. Spoilers included

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387 "2008-06-10T00:47:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/201 "2008-06-20T20:08:32Z")

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Are you kidding me? Am I going to have to take back all the cussin’g I did last night and today to my coworkers?

Anyone have a video link? Cause I saw the replay five times and no angle showed anyone else stomping on him.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/202 "2008-06-20T20:40:45Z")

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One thing I gotta say, is that the Croatia/Turkey game is easy to watch, Red and Blue. It’s like Stratego.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/203 "2008-06-20T21:06:00Z")

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Nice save by the second string Turkish Goalie. But the was the Turks are starting to play, I suspect there will be more penalty shots soon.

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/204 "2008-06-20T21:16:38Z")

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**Finally!**

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/205 "2008-06-20T21:18:03Z")

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Holy shit!

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/206 "2008-06-20T21:18:34Z")

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Bwaha!

Croatia better pull it out in penalties; I’m looking forward to the rematch with Germany.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/207 "2008-06-20T21:18:59Z")

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I do not fucking believe it. Comeback kings strike again. Penalties it is.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/208 "2008-06-20T21:19:23Z")

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Good goodness… The Turks are masters at turning games around against impossible odds…

It was literally the last kick of the game, no? O.o

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/209 "2008-06-20T21:20:31Z")

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I’m sitting over here laughing my fool head off. Unbelievable. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/210 "2008-06-20T21:27:57Z")

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Memo to Croat penalty takers - the goal is the big white thing with the net.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/211 "2008-06-20T21:28:42Z")

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And… Turkey is through…

The Masters of Comeback…!

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**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/212 "2008-06-20T21:34:30Z")

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Wow. I bet that hurt…

Now, risky though it may be; I don’t think a late goal, or two, will rescue them from the Germans.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/213 "2008-06-20T22:01:07Z")

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Well, that guy can stop a shot or two, can’t he? :eek:

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/214 "2008-06-20T22:02:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Kinthalis]  
I Hate Rolando after the whole foot stomp thing.

First it doesn’t look like it was intentional, Ronaldo’s foot just got in the way. He then takes a dive. Stops, looks around, sees the ref coming, and immediately begins to cry like a little bitch.

I hate that shit. And now I hate him.

Also, Go Germany!  
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You do realize that the foot stomp came AFTER the foul, and he didn’t start the agonizing response until the foot was stepped on, right?

You also know that he had a foot injury for the last three months for which he’s about to get surgery, right?

Some people really ought to know the facts before reaching judgments. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/215 "2008-06-20T22:05:53Z")

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I’d have to say that that was 118 minutes of pretty much boring nothing followed by two minutes of pretty exciting stuff, followed by watching Croatia pretend to be England in the penalty shoot-out. :smack:

Memo to Germans: When get Turks down, make referee stop game; do NOT play the last five minutes if possible!! 😃

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/216 "2008-06-20T22:21:45Z")

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[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq]  
You do realize that the foot stomp came AFTER the foul, and he didn’t start the agonizing response until the foot was stepped on, right?

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No, I didn’t know this. On the replay they showed this was not obvious to anyone, including the commentators who hurled abuse at Ronaldo as well. You can see why I would come to this conclusion, no?

Again, I’m asking if anyone has a link to the video that shows this happenning?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/217 "2008-06-20T22:28:36Z")

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Not offhand, no, since UEFA are watching YouTube like hawks to make sure clips don’t stay up. I can certainly corroborate that chain of events, though; he was fouled, then trodden on while on the floor after play had stopped, and reacted to being trodden on pretty much instantly. I doubt he was as hurt as he made out, and as I said before I don’t think the German player did it deliberately, but Ronaldo was very definitely fouled, and then trodden on. No diving involved whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/218 "2008-06-20T23:07:02Z")

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Holy crap that was exciting.

Has there ever before been a game in a major tournament where a team scored to take the lead 117 minutes in and then lost?

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/219 "2008-06-21T01:04:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Kinthalis]  
No, I didn’t know this. On the replay they showed this was not obvious to anyone, including the commentators who hurled abuse at Ronaldo as well. You can see why I would come to this conclusion, no?

Again, I’m asking if anyone has a link to the video that shows this happenning?  
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ESPN noticed it about 15 replays in. At which point the commentator swallowed his pride and apologized to Ronaldo on the air for suggesting it was fakery.

French TV1 showed it and the commentary was that it should have been a red card (I have this on reliable basis from friends who post on other boards and saw that feed).

At this point, the only issue in the situation appears to be the question of whether or not the trodding on the foot was deliberately done. My personal opinion is that two things make it likely it was done either deliberately or recklessly: he didn’t attempt to go around the player on the ground, and he never apologized for what he did, despite the fact he must have felt that he was trodding on something other than the newly laid pitch. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-euro-08-matches-spoilers-included/452387/220 "2008-06-21T01:23:04Z")

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Ok my computer didn’t tape the extra time! ARGH, got to remember to tape the next show just in case.

What happenned on over time with Turkey and Croatia?

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