# Ongoing Pet Peeve of the Day Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 3, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318 "2015-12-03T16:25:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/21 "2015-12-04T22:31:08Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> I can better this, although I can’t _explain_ what i observed.
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> Several times I have been at the end of a line of people who were resuming normal speed as we left one light and approached another. We were all driving forward, but because we started from a complete stop, we were still relatively nose-to-tail. Most if us intended to turn right at the light we were approaching, hence had no incentive to move into the left lane.
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> Up on my left came a lone car. No one else in the left lane. This car started to pass me, then suddenly put on a blinker and cut in front of me, to get into the line turning right up ahead.
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> I don’t doubt they wanted to turn right. The problem I have is that I was the LAST car. If you are willing to cut into line to turn right to save some time, why cut in almost at the absolute _back of the line_? And if you aren’t in that much of a hurry, why cut anyone off at all? You’re only saving one car length by cutting off the last guy. It’s like the person was compelled to cut someone else off, but not in a hurry to get anywhere.
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> Baffling, and it’s happened multiple times.

When I got my Prius I noticed that this kind of thing started happening a lot. I remedied it by making sure that I was close enough to the car in front of me to not let some clown push in.  
But it isn’t just me. The Mr. Roadshow column today was about freeway exits that get backed up, so that there is a long line of cars in the right lane. Often some idiot zooms up to near the head of the line in lane 2, where cars are moving at 60, and then stops and tries to get in. I’ve seen the same thing on a surface street where the left turn lane gets backed up for blocks. It appear the idea of going to the next intersection and making a legal U-turn is beyond these morons.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/22 "2015-12-04T23:32:19Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> People who multiply all surface street speed limits by 2. And also behave like yellow lights are twice as long as they really are.
> 
> Why yes, I do live in Florida. How did you know?

Because Florida has _insanely, absurdly_ short yellow lights, best measurable in milliseconds. (As of when I was there, about 30 years ago. Are they still like that?) Srsly, what’s the logic of that?

BTW: I read in one of those “How Stuff Works” type of books, many years ago, why yellow lights in the eastern states are so much shorter than yellow lights in western states (yeah, apparently that’s a thing), but I’ll be damned if I can remember what the explanation was. Anybody have any ideas?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/23 "2015-12-04T23:35:49Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I have had this argument in the past. Judge Judy is adamant that you must not enter the turn lane until you have a chance to get through the intersection. My argument is that if you have a green light, you can get in the lane and wait till it clears, even if that means going through the intersection after the light has changed.

This might vary from one state to another. That way you suggest is certainly how it’s done in California (although I don’t know for sure if it’s legal). I think it’s _not_ legal in Oregon – if you are still in the intersection when the light turns red, you can get a ticket for that. I think. So don’t enter the intersection until you are sure you can get through it while the light is still green (or yellow).

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/24 "2015-12-04T23:42:16Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I can hardly wait for Googlemobiles to take these people out of the driver’s seat.

What we need is Driver Ed and Driver Training approximately as rigorous and thorough as Private Pilot training. I had about 10 hours of private pilot training when I was a senior in high school (about 45 years ago) plus ground school and passed the FAA written exam on the first try, and I’ve also soloed in gliders, so I know how much more detailed it is than driver training. It’s what we need for driving a car.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/25 "2015-12-04T23:47:07Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> It appear the idea of going to the next intersection and making a legal U-turn is beyond these morons.

And more to the point, I think, it appears the idea of _waiting your turn at the drinking fountain_ is an alien concept to these morons. Or maybe they think the drinking fountain is the _only_ place you need to wait your turn in line.

The same thing happens at on-ramps with a long merging lane, where you have a steady stream of cars in both lanes. Giving credit where it’s due, I’ve seen that _most_ drivers do the polite zipper-merging thang, but there’s always a few jackasses who don’t.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/26 "2015-12-04T23:47:55Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> This might vary from one state to another. That way you suggest is certainly how it’s done in California (although I don’t know for sure if it’s legal).

I’m pretty sure it is legal because red light cameras are set to only go off if you enter the intersection after the red. And yeah, we have really long yellows.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/27 "2015-12-05T00:21:06Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> What we need is Driver Ed and Driver Training approximately as rigorous and thorough as Private Pilot training. … It’s what we need for driving a car.

And when only 5% of all citizens pass this training how exactly do you expect the US economy to function?

There would also need to be something like BFRs but with a graded checkride to ensure people remained on the straight and narrow.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/28 "2015-12-05T01:31:40Z")

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People who drive at high speed while refusing to use blinkers. No, Baldy, You AREN’T A Cop.

Neither is that Fat Chimp with the $5 sunglasses following you & driving the same way.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/29 "2015-12-05T01:35:44Z")

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Drivers who are waiting to pull out onto a major roadway (turning right) and wait until I am approaching-as the lone vehicle, mind you-and pull out right in front of me. This causes me to brake hard and it makes no fucking sense, as they could have just waited two more seconds for me to pass and had an entirely empty roadway to pull onto.  
Oh, and every-fucking-thing under the sun getting slapped with a “gluten-free” label. It’s gotten just offensive, I mean how fucking stupid do companies think consumers are?! Gluten-free _water_?! Do they simply assume people will have no goddamn idea what gluten _is_? Just, gluten=bad, therefore gluten-free product=good.

I was casually glancing at my energy shot bottle and noticed a “GF” adorned on the label. I thought, “you’ve got to be fucking kidding me”. But nope, my energy shot contained no wheat proteins. Sweet.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/30 "2015-12-05T06:45:43Z")

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About weird driving antics: I was on one occasion cruising along the freeway at a legal and reasonable speed. Guy behind me seems quite content with our travel speed. There is very little other traffic in the vicinity. I signal to shift one lane left. Guy behind me jams the gas and swerves into the destination lane to cut me off. WHY?

Another peeve lately: the Weather Channel apparently does not allow female presenters to wash their hair. They all have clumpy, greasy-looking hair. Ew.

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**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/31 "2015-12-05T12:41:34Z")

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> [@stillownedbysetters](#):
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> People who race up to you in the adjacent lane (you are in the right hand lane), then cut in front of you sans indicator light, slam on their brakes and make an immediate right turn. After you’ve gotten your heart rate back to something resembling normal, you notice there is no one behind you for 10 car lengths. So why the urgency to cut in front of me?
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> I am, by the way, going 10 miles OVER the speed limit, so it wasn’t that.

They will not be kept down by the man! Yeah anyway, no matter what turn they will make in front of you, they do not want to be behind anyone! They always think you are going too slow no matter what speed you are going

As well as the idiot that is waiting to turn in the intersection, they have to do it in front of you, two reasons, no one is behind you and you gotta be going way too slow for them…oh and again, they have to be in front of the line not in the back

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> That’s very simple to explain.
> 
> Most drivers do not look more than a car length or two ahead of their own car. What’s happening to cars in the distance ahead is irrelevant to them.
> 
> They are also constantly surprised that their intersection is coming up. They only think about it once they can directly see it. The idea that, say, passing 6th Street is a cue to get ready to turn at 4th Street is utterly absent. When and only when they directly see 4th Street will they begin to prepare to turn there.
> 
> With that background …
> 
> As that driver approached your line of cars all they saw was the back of your car. They did not see or process any of the cars in front of you. If you happen to drive a SUV or pickup this is especially true. They also had no idea if the place they wanted to turn was the very next block, in the next mile, or another 3 miles ahead.
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> So they tried to pass you, the only car on the road in their mental model of traffic. Then suddenly they noticed the cross street they wanted. And/or suddenly they saw the car in front of you. And perhaps the one in front of them.
> 
> So they fixed the problem the only way they know how: barge into your lane in front of you.
> 
> The reason they didn’t slow strongly and join in behind you once they saw what was really happening was also simple: Retracting their move so as to get behind you would only happen if they recognized they had made a mistake. But these folks drive like this all the time. They don’t see their actions as erroneous, because every turn in traffic happens like this. It’s all ops normal to them.
> 
> I can hardly wait for Googlemobiles to take these people out of the driver’s seat.

The reason they want driverless cars are so that “they” want to further control our lives!  
My all time pet ongoing all encompassing peeve: STUPID PEOPLE. Cant stand them!

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**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/32 "2015-12-05T12:42:38Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> Another peeve lately: the Weather Channel apparently does not allow female presenters to wash their hair. They all have clumpy, greasy-looking hair. Ew.

Isnt that what turns on the male population? 😃

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/33 "2015-12-05T13:19:56Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Judge Judy is adamant that you must not enter the turn lane until you have a chance to get through the intersection.

Judge Judy obviously doesn’t drive in a real city.

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Oh, and every-fucking-thing under the sun getting slapped with a “gluten-free” label. It’s gotten just offensive, I mean how fucking stupid do companies think consumers are?! Gluten-free _water_?! Do they simply assume people will have no goddamn idea what gluten _is_?

I just noticed the other day that the corn starch I bought is labeled Gluten-free. Luckily, it still has all the GMOs and toxins one expects.

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/34 "2015-12-05T14:47:45Z")

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Listening to my neighbor’s music in my own house. And they are not suburban neighbors either, I’ve got a field between us.

Actually my pet peeve is loud neighbors in general - loud kids, loud dogs, loud music, loud arguments, loud general conversations. And I’ve got it all next door. They even have loud horses!

Bah.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/35 "2015-12-05T14:48:00Z")

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My pet peeve?

When threads about pet peeves somehow get caught in a loop of all the peeves being about drivers/driving. Hello?? Listen up people; driving is not really the topic of this thread.

My other pet peeve?

Junior modding by posters who aren’t even the OP. The sheer effrontery of some people. Sheesh!!

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/36 "2015-12-05T23:53:20Z")

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> [@saje](#):
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> Actually my pet peeve is loud neighbors in general - loud kids, loud dogs, loud music, loud arguments, loud general conversations. And I’ve got it all next door. They even have loud horses!
> 
> Bah.

I’d be creeped out if their horses really say “Bah.”

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/37 "2015-12-06T02:16:24Z")

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I’ll be different and give some non-driving pet peeves.

People who stand on the walking side of the escalator.  
People who walk up the escalator but stop right at the end when it levels out before stepping off. Seriously, why?  
People who walk too slowly up stairs.  
People who dawdle onto the train when the doors are about to close and then get annoyed when I have to push them out of the way so I don’t die.  
Those really loud announcements reminding me that I’m in the quiet carriage.  
People who press the “next stop” button on the bus as it’s leaving the curb because they want to get off at the stop walking distance from the one we’re already at.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/38 "2015-12-06T03:00:02Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Oh, and every-fucking-thing under the sun getting slapped with a “gluten-free” label. It’s gotten just offensive, I mean how fucking stupid do companies think consumers are?! Gluten-free _water_?! Do they simply assume people will have no goddamn idea what gluten _is_? Just, gluten=bad, therefore gluten-free product=good.
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> I was casually glancing at my energy shot bottle and noticed a “GF” adorned on the label. I thought, “you’ve got to be fucking kidding me”. But nope, my energy shot contained no wheat proteins. Sweet.

My wife bought face wash, which I saw in our shower. It was prominently labeled “gluten free.”

I shit you not.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/39 "2015-12-06T03:44:25Z")

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I saw gluten free dog food once.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ongoing-pet-peeve-of-the-day-thread/739318/40 "2015-12-06T04:08:57Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> My wife bought face wash, which I saw in our shower. It was prominently labeled “gluten free.”
> 
> I shit you not.

Dear god. I’m waiting for some “gluten free” Fruit of the Looms. Or “gluten free” porn. Because America! Why The Fuck Not!

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