# Onion posts satiric article calling Redskins owner a "kike" & a "shifty-eyed hebe". OK or too much?

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**Created:** [October 24, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086 "2013-10-24T04:24:02Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086/21 "2013-10-24T14:28:53Z")

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It’s _The Onion_. They’ve done worse. They’ll do it again.

I thought the article was funny, and I’m Jewish. I agree with **friedo** … love the word “hebe”. 😃

Edit: Really, is it any worse than “12-Year-Old Bully Not So Tough After Being Molested”?

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086/22 "2013-10-24T14:31:54Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> One interesting thing I noticed is they never mentioned Snyder by name.

You know, I hadn’t noticed that. I have a feeling their legal department had something to do with that.

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I refuse to be offended by trivialities. By all means, go further, Onion.

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IMO not too much, since the point is that it’s a racist slur.

> [@DocCathode](#):
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> Except now, I want an NFL expansion team called the Hebes.

We used to have a smiley that could be brought to bear on this…

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086/25 "2013-10-24T17:24:17Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Re article below- [Redskins’ Kike Owner Refuses To Change Team’s Offensive Name](http://www.theonion.com/articles/redskins-kike-owner-refuses-to-change-teams-offens,34292/)
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> Too much or a fair point of satire given his insistence on not changing team’s name?

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

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It’s obvious (to me at least) that _The Onion_ isn’t really racist and the article is a satirical joke. Then it cannot be offensive to me.

I didn’t even find it offensive when they called the little girl a cunt on Twitter. Obviously, many disagreed with me on that one.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086/27 "2013-10-24T17:42:29Z")

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In England we call waitresses Hebes.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086/28 "2013-10-24T17:44:15Z")

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I thought it was funny. It’s nothing compared to this one:

> **[World's Jews Celebrate Christmas With Ceremonial Re-Murdering Of Christ](https://www.theonion.com/worlds-jews-celebrate-christmas-with-ceremonial-re-murd-1819565421)**
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> JERUSALEM—As Christians everywhere celebrate the birth of Christ this holiday season, the world's approximately 14 million Jews are also commemorating the special holiday, as they do each year, by ceremonially re-murdering the Baby Jesus. Details of...

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086/29 "2013-10-24T18:36:47Z")

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Fair point, on topic, funny and obviously not racist.

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> In England we call waitresses Hebes.

Only the Jewish ones?

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> There was a magazine aimed at Generation X Jews called “Hebe” (or was it Heeb?). A friend has a few issues.

What a weird non sequitur.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086/32 "2013-10-24T19:23:49Z")

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In fact [Heeb magazine still exists](http://heebmagazine.com/). I was going to say that word also has a history as a non-slur, but I was thinking of [Yid](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yid).

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> What a weird non sequitur.

Well, he did say his friend had issues. 😉

As to the OP: I find it hard to believe that anyone would find “redskin” acceptable but “hebe” or “kike” unacceptable, whether in an Onion article or anywhere else…but I guess some people forget that Native Americans/Indians actually exist. Like, today.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/onion-posts-satiric-article-calling-redskins-owner-a-kike-a-shifty-eyed-hebe-ok-or-too-much/672086/34 "2013-10-24T21:24:21Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> I don’t know what a hebe is.
> 
> Yeah seems kind of lazy.

_[Brian Cohen]:_ I’m not a Roman mum, I’m a kike, a yid, a heebie, a hook-nose, I’m kosher mum, I’m a Red Sea pedestrian, and proud of it!_[/Brian Cohen]_

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> [@friedo](#):
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> Am I a bad Jew because I really enjoy the word “hebe?” It just sounds funny.

“Hebrew” makes me think of an Israeli beer.

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> “Hebrew” makes me think of an Israeli beer.

He’Brew. The Chosen Beer. [http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/](http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/)

I’ve had it, but I don’t remember if I liked it or not.

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A hebe’s a plant isn’t it? I’m pretty sure my mum grows them…

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> He’Brew. The Chosen Beer. [http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/](http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/)

Ignorance fought.

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> He’Brew. The Chosen Beer. [http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/](http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/)
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> I’ve had it, but I don’t remember if I liked it or not.

Actually, I’ve tried many of Shmaltz Brewing’s offerings and many are fantastic.

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I’m not Jewish, but I think they went too far. It’s not the fault of other Jewish people that this guy is a jerk, so I think the history behind the racial slurs used trumps the humor of the piece.

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