# Online game lets RWs fantasize about hunting down "Obama and the renegade Cong" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 20, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415 "2009-10-20T00:36:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/21 "2009-10-20T01:41:46Z")
I, an early and avid Obama supporter, am far from outraged. What I am is intrigued. Is it a browser game? A PC game? Is it like Mafia Wars or Ikiam? Is it turned based? An actual paper and pencil (and pixel) RP game? Somebody go investigate! Not me. I suck at games and I don’t know how to play them unless somebody explains it to me first. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/22 "2009-10-20T01:42:10Z")
Now, now, it’s not all bad. [Breaking news](http://www.usofearth.com/prefectSHistory.php?page=7) > [@](#): > > Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck Found Dead in Camp ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/23 "2009-10-20T02:11:31Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Now, now, it’s not all bad. [Breaking news](http://www.usofearth.com/prefectSHistory.php?page=7) What’s up with that blog list? Little Green Footballs and Red State don’t rate? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/24 "2009-10-20T02:11:57Z")
> [@Xploder](#): > > So what? It’s a game. Big fucking deal. > > What would be your reaction if it were about Bush and Cheney instead? What’s Pitworthy is the mentality. Apart from the “Truther” fringe, I think most liberals and leftists, however they might rant, understood perfectly well that W was not really a fascist. But there seem to be a significant number of RWs – far, far outnumbering “Truthers” – who really are dumb/crazy/evil enough to think Obama is a Marxist, crypto-Muslim, born in Kenya, planning to suspend elections, herd his opponents into FEMA camps, etc., etc. See [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=533537) on “eliminationism.” ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/25 "2009-10-20T03:34:42Z")
> [@Xploder](#): > > …out of the 50 or 60 politicians I’ve been privileged to know, every single one was a fucking crook. You are more fortunately than I. Half of mine were merely stupid. ETA: Really, REALLY stupid. ETAA: But some of them were also crooks. Didn’t take long–okay, it took ten years–for them to be found out to be crooked. The smarter ones took fifteen years. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/26 "2009-10-20T03:52:40Z")
I’m really most irritated that it’s written terribly. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/27 "2009-10-20T04:03:33Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > It’s easy for everyone to say that NOW. It’s really easy for people to say, “yeah if it had happened under Bush, I would have opposed it too.” But it didn’t. And there were no Democratic Congressmen that questioned Bush’s citizenship, or shouted “you lie”, or liberals carrying guns to presidential appearances. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/28 "2009-10-20T04:26:57Z")
I do seem to remember an online game where you could chuck shoes at Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/29 "2009-10-20T04:32:09Z")
People spent eight years criticizing Bush non-stop; they called him a fascist, a Nazi, they said he was setting up a police state, that he was going to declare martial law; people were _convinced_ he was going to bomb Iran as a “grand finale” before he left office; they had the most ridiculous ideas about him. Bush was in office the whole time I was in college, and all the kool kids bashed Bush non-stop. Non-stop. Now that Obama’s in office and the Bush years are over, these same people are now making a full time job out of complaining that people don’t like Obama. They’re just pathological complainers. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/30 "2009-10-20T04:35:51Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > What’s up with that blog list? Little Green Footballs and Red State don’t rate? As it happens, Charles Johnson broke with the wingnut fringe and has rejoined sanity, so he’s persona non grata with those folks right now. No, I’m serious. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/31 "2009-10-20T05:04:29Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > People spent eight years criticizing Bush non-stop; they called him a fascist, a Nazi, they said he was setting up a police state, that he was going to declare martial law; people were _convinced_ he was going to bomb Iran as a “grand finale” before he left office; they had the most ridiculous ideas about him. Bush was in office the whole time I was in college, and all the kool kids bashed Bush non-stop. Non-stop. Now that Obama’s in office and the Bush years are over, these same people are now making a full time job out of complaining that people don’t like Obama. They’re just pathological complainers. I’m sorry you weren’t “kool”, must have been tough. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/32 "2009-10-20T05:21:43Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > People spent eight years criticizing Bush non-stop; they called him a fascist, a Nazi, they said he was setting up a police state, that he was going to declare martial law; people were _convinced_ he was going to bomb Iran as a “grand finale” before he left office; they had the most ridiculous ideas about him. Bush was in office the whole time I was in college, and all the kool kids bashed Bush non-stop. Non-stop. Now that Obama’s in office and the Bush years are over, these same people are now making a full time job out of complaining that people don’t like Obama. They’re just pathological complainers. I don’t deny that a lot of people said the things you point out, but I never really got the impression that any of it save maybe the Impeach Bush stuff was a call to action, and at least the Impeach Bush stuff had real reasoning behind it, even if it was obviously never going to happen. Conversely, the stuff I see against Obama is…unsettling. I’m willing to admit that possibly I’m viewing this through bias, but what I see is encouragement to rebellion. Not just dissent, but calls to action. Many people thought Bush did not legitimately win in 2000, but I never got the sense other than from a few crackpots that he should be considered an enemy of the US. I get that sense _strongly_ from the Obama opponents, as evidenced by this game. The US is in the hands of a foreigner out to do us harm, and you’ll be a goddamned _hero_ if you take him down, you real American you. People bitched mightily about Bush and didn’t like where he was taking the country, true, but I never heard from anyone but a few cranks that he wasn’t the true President, and I _never_ heard, period, that We Should Do Something About It, whether implied or explicitly stated. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/33 "2009-10-20T05:32:09Z")
Maybe it’s just because I’m in a liberal-leaning college town but I saw calls to impeach Bush constantly, on bumper stickers, on peoples’ windows, etc. I heard a lot of people call him a war criminal (is Bill Clinton a war criminal for killing civilians in Serbia?) I heard a _lot_ of fellow college students claim that they would be overjoyed if Bush were assassinated. Talk of killing Bush was very common in the dorm I lived in for my first 1 and 1/2 years of college. I remember it well because it always ended the same way: “well, if you killed him, then _Cheney_ would be president!” “Shit, man, you’re right. Pass me that pipe.” And the idea that Bush was an enemy of America and an enemy of freedom was all over the place. It was like the air you breathed. There was one Republican - one - on my dorm room floor, and he was immediately ostracized by everyone else, and eventually moved out. I remember it - within a week or so of the start of college, everyone talked about him like he was a child molester. “Ohmygod…did you know he’s a _Republican?_” One girl who…frequented…our floor wound up sleeping with him; thereafter people would mock her, saying, “she even fucked Chris…and he’s a REPUBLICAN!” You seriously don’t remember these times? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/34 "2009-10-20T05:41:59Z")
Yes, I do recall those statements, perhaps because Bush should have been impeached. Bush was and is a war criminal. Bush wasn’t an enemy of America, but with friends like him America hardly needed more enemies. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/35 "2009-10-20T05:49:55Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > You seriously don’t remember these times? Honestly, I don’t. I remember the “But then Cheney would be President!” thing only in the context of throwing Bush out of office. Talk of assassination simply goes beyond the pale. Even still, there are very real reasons for disliking Bush beyond being a Republican. Whether or not you think the right call was made in the 2000 election, surely it’s reasonable to admit the whole situation was pretty hinky. The Iraq war has really hurt us as a nation, so on and so forth. Ask a Bush hater why he does, and chances are good he’ll point at some actual reasons. Ask an Obama hater why he does, and chances are good it’ll be because Glenn Beck thinks he’s a socialist Kenyan. I mean, some people are trying to at least find policy issues to disagree with Obama on, even if sometimes I think it’s a case of deciding the conclusion and then finding facts to support it. But they are waaaaaay in the minority. I’m almost kind of relieved that it’s far enough into his presidency that he’s making some missteps, as now opponents will actually have something concrete they can point at. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/36 "2009-10-20T06:06:16Z")
I for one admit that I would have been less disturbed–disturbed, but less so–if such a game had come out during the Bush administration. That’s because I’d’ve known it was a joke. In the current hysterical climate, there are too many wingnuts who take the premise of this game very, very seriously. Lefties were talking about impeaching Bush for crimes he had already committed; the hysterical right wingers are talking about killing Obama simply for who he is. Which is more disturbing? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/37 "2009-10-20T06:17:05Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Lefties were talking about impeaching Bush for crimes he had already committed; the hysterical right wingers are talking about killing Obama simply for who he is. Which is more disturbing? And even if you disagree that Bush’s actions actually were crimes, at least he had already done the actions in question. What was the reaction when it was merely made known that Obama was going to give a speech to schoolkids, before anyone even knew the content? The hysteria is _insane_. At least the left waited until Bush said something before ridiculing it. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/38 "2009-10-20T06:23:55Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > People spent eight years criticizing Bush non-stop; they called him a fascist, a Nazi, they said he was setting up a police state, that he was going to declare martial law; people were _convinced_ he was going to bomb Iran as a “grand finale” before he left office; they had the most ridiculous ideas about him. Bush was in office the whole time I was in college, and all the kool kids bashed Bush non-stop. Non-stop. Nice historical revisionism. After 9/11, [Bush had close to a 90% approval rating](http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm). The liberals were more than happy to give him a chance. Now, the right wants to lynch Obama because he’s doing (gasp!) the exact same fucking things Bush and Reagan did, like have czars and give school speeches. Who are the real ‘pathological complainers’? ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/39 "2009-10-20T06:58:35Z")
I don’t know anything about any polls; all I can do is recount my own personal experiences during Bush-hate-mania. People used to talk about killing him all the time. My own friends talked about it. After Kerry was defeated in the 2004 election, everyone I knew was clamoring about how the election was “stolen” and how the Diebold machines were rigged to give Bush the vote and how it’s all a big conspiracy, man, pass the pipe. ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415/40 "2009-10-20T07:48:43Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > is Bill Clinton a war criminal for killing civilians in Serbia? Yes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-game-lets-rws-fantasize-about-hunting-down-obama-and-the-renegade-cong/514415.md?page=3)