# Online poker fucked by puritain DOJ retards **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 16, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612 "2011-04-16T15:45:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/41 "2011-04-17T03:59:25Z")
[Online Poker Players Expose Alleged Fraud - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3752500&page=1) Here is the story. It was only ended because some serious players saw players making enough eccentric, yet successful moves that they began to realize somebody could see their hole cards. They did all the leg work and handed it over to authorities. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/42 "2011-04-17T04:06:14Z")
[Online Poker Cheating Scam Unraveled | Techdirt](http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081001/0309502425.shtml) This story suggests it is more than one site and they will fold up shop and rename ,starting over. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/43 "2011-04-17T05:02:40Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > The house makes the same money regardless of who wins or loses a hand Unless one of the players is/is working for the house. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/44 "2011-04-17T18:29:16Z")
> [@Implicit](#): > > The offshore poker companies named in this indictment flaunted that law… Nitpick: flouted. ---
**Author:** ![smellsofgummybears](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@smellsofgummybears](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smellsofgummybears)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/45 "2011-04-17T18:34:31Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > My sister lost her house because her now ex husband gambled it all away on Internet poker. Fuck on-line poker sites. Fuck them right in the ear. Your ex brother in law is a fuckwit. It is no one’s fault but his. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/46 "2011-04-17T18:52:58Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Unless one of the players is/is working for the house. If you want you can start an episode of the _"omg online poker is rigged_ :eek:" debate, but lets be honest, it has been done a million times by the poker playing community, and I very much doubt you have anything to add to it. [http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/great-poker-rigged-debate-collected-threads-edition-255990/](http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/great-poker-rigged-debate-collected-threads-edition-255990/) > **[Proof That Online Poker Is Rigged! – Bill Rini](https://www.billrini.com/2004/11/30/proof-that-online-poker-is-rigged/)** My opinion on the OP? You all have a really fucked up country you know that? What are you scared off, that a little gambling is going to jeopardise your immortal souls? ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/47 "2011-04-17T19:18:01Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > My opinion on the OP? You all have a really fucked up country you know that? What are you scared off, that a little gambling is going to jeopardise your immortal souls? and I’m sure yelling at a few of us on a message board is going to do so much to change that… ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/48 "2011-04-17T19:51:03Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > My opinion on the OP? You all have a really fucked up country you know that? What are you scared off, that a little gambling is going to jeopardise your immortal souls? Funny, that’s the same argument Ireland’s banks made. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/49 "2011-04-17T19:56:43Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > \ > > My opinion on the OP? You all have a really fucked up country you know that? What are you scared off, that a little gambling is going to jeopardise your immortal souls? Heh - I don’t get it, either. You can gamble in person, but not online? Yeah, it’s easier to lose more money that way, but the US is a country that is always yelling about “nanny state” - some nannying is okay, but not other nannying? There’s obviously something else going on here to have prompted this inane law. I have to agree with others, **gaffa** - if your brother-in-law was dedicated to being an addicted gambler, he would have found a way. My husband has been gambling with online poker sites for about six years now - I think he’s pumped $50 into the sites he goes to. You can’t blame online gambling for your brother-in-law’s addiction any more than you can blame distilleries for alcoholism. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/50 "2011-04-17T20:14:39Z")
Can we blame online poker for the OP getting banned? ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/51 "2011-04-17T23:05:39Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I have to agree with others, **gaffa** - if your brother-in-law was dedicated to being an addicted gambler, he would have found a way. My husband has been gambling with online poker sites for about six years now - I think he’s pumped $50 into the sites he goes to. You can’t blame online gambling for your brother-in-law’s addiction any more than you can blame distilleries for alcoholism. The thing about having to go to a casino is: They are regulated by the state, so the tables and machines are fair. You have to leave the fucking house to lose it. The casinos will not allow you to gamble in your underwear (at least not at the $5 table - high rollers, who knows?) On-line poker is like a 3 card Monte dealer with your credit card number. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/52 "2011-04-17T23:25:12Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > The thing about having to go to a casino is: > > They are regulated by the state, so the tables and machines are fair. > You have to leave the fucking house to lose it. > The casinos will not allow you to gamble in your underwear (at least not at the $5 table - high rollers, who knows?) > > On-line poker is like a 3 card Monte dealer with your credit card number. That’s where I’m at. People might think banning online gambling is nanny-statism, and I can sort of understand that. But the reason I compared it to WoW is that I know a couple people who are WoW addicts. Genuine addicts. I gave up on a friend because that game took over his life. For a certain subset of the population, those games tickle the risk-reward centers of their brains in just the right way to keep them coming back beyond reasonable levels. But at least with WoW you’re only sacrificing your monthly fee and your time. Letting those same people gamble? They (and their families) need to be saved from themselves. I have no problem with people taking a weekend trip to Vegas or wherever and spending money they’ve saved at the casino. For one thing, you end up supporting an entire local economy when you have to actually leave your house to gamble, as opposed to some foreign website owner. But allowing people to use their credit cards to ring up gambling debts with some website strikes me as so cheap and cynical, no different than your average state lottery. And that’s not even getting into the whole Hold 'Em subculture, and all the Phil Hellmuth clones. Just go away, poker guy. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/53 "2011-04-18T00:17:04Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Funny, that’s the same argument Ireland’s banks made. O’Zing! ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/54 "2011-04-18T00:26:59Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > They (and their families) need to be saved from themselves. Would you (and/or gaffa) like to subject your own lives to this type of scrutiny? I’m sure we could find something you’re doing in a sub-optimal manner. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/55 "2011-04-18T00:29:47Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Would you (and/or gaffa) like to subject your own lives to this type of scrutiny? I’m sure we could find something you’re doing in a sub-optimal manner. God damn it all to hell I’m in here agreeing with **Rand Rover**. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/56 "2011-04-18T00:39:25Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Would you (and/or gaffa) like to subject your own lives to this type of scrutiny? I’m sure we could find something you’re doing in a sub-optimal manner. Who needs scrutiny? That’s the beauty of banning something. You don’t have to worry about case-by-case evaluation. You just decide it’s bad and you’re done with it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/57 "2011-04-18T01:07:40Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Who needs scrutiny? That’s the beauty of banning something. You don’t have to worry about case-by-case evaluation. You just decide it’s bad and you’re done with it. Porn is considered bad, and destructive by a vocal lobby. Should it be banned? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/58 "2011-04-18T01:51:42Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Who needs scrutiny? That’s the beauty of banning something. You don’t have to worry about case-by-case evaluation. You just decide it’s bad and you’re done with it. This post really sounds like someone mocking your position. Maybe you are whooshing us here. In case you aren’t, what I was saying is that I’m sure we could look at your life, find something you enjoy doing, and figure out a way it’s harmful to yourself or someone else. And then we could ban that thing to save you from yourself. Would that be OK with you? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/59 "2011-04-18T02:16:39Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I’m still shaking my head over WoW being full of degenerate losers… Shaking your head, because… why? Because on a web site dedicated to fighting ignorance, it’s a waste of time to bring up a “given”? Or… oh, my gosh. Wow, I’m sorry you had to find out this way. And here you thought you were … “Winning!” ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612/60 "2011-04-18T04:31:31Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Who needs scrutiny? That’s the beauty of banning something. You don’t have to worry about case-by-case evaluation. You just decide it’s bad and you’re done with it. Alcholism hurts far more families than gambling addiction: do you think we should start up Prohibition again? If not, why not? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/online-poker-fucked-by-puritain-doj-retards/578612.md?page=4)