# Ooh, ooh, Michael Phelps smoked pot, ooh ooh ooh, the demon weed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 2, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135 "2009-02-02T17:06:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/221 "2009-02-06T17:23:21Z")
> [@](#): > > You continue to refer to honor here, but I don’t see marijuana smoking as honorable or dishonorable. Same goes for jaywalking, speeding, and a lot of other illegal acts. But either way I think my question about honoring the law deserves an answer. I guess you missed it, I never said smoking pot would be dishonorable if it were legalized. But it is illegal now so smoking and breaking the law is dishonorable. Some people will never admit to being dishonorable. Others don’t care. And some do. The point associated with Phelps’ use is that he engaged in an illegal activity and that should not be condoned. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/222 "2009-02-06T17:26:34Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > To clarify, it’s not just hurt feelings, which I think are very significant to a small child, but also responsibility to that child. Someone constantly strung out, spending the family budget on drugs, needs to not be in that position in the first place. Nobody’s thinking of Teh Children!!1!1! :rolleyes: > [@jimpatro](#): > > I guess you missed it, I never said smoking pot would be dishonorable if it were legalized. But it is legal now so smoking and breaking the law is dishonorable. No, you pusillanimous pissant, breaking the law is _not_ necessarily dishonorable. Christ on a crutch, you think breaking a stupid law is dishonorable? ---
**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/223 "2009-02-06T17:30:20Z")
Yep. And some people just have no self control. They do things because they can and don’t stop to ponder whether they should. ---
**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/224 "2009-02-06T17:32:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Nobody’s thinking of Teh Children You are a worthless waste of air, boy I hope you never have kids. For their sake. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/225 "2009-02-06T17:36:45Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > I guess you missed it, I never said smoking pot would be dishonorable if it were legalized. But it is illegal now so smoking and breaking the law is dishonorable. Some people will never admit to being dishonorable. Others don’t care. And some do. I was asking you to respond to something else, actually. I’ll quote it here: > [@](#): > > [The Boy Scout oath] doesn’t address what you do when the law is wrong, which it plainly is at times. The boy scout oath says you honor your country by “working for your country’s good and obeying its laws.”\* If you think for about a minute you’ll realize these goals can conflict, which is why that oath is not sufficient as a moral framework. Consider the civil rights movement. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/226 "2009-02-06T17:37:16Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > But it is illegal now so smoking and breaking the law is dishonorable. Some people will never admit to being dishonorable. Like that dishonorable bitch Rosa Parks for instance. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/227 "2009-02-06T17:41:13Z")
Look, a little kid isn’t going to cry because Phelps smokes pot. The little kid probably isn’t going to ever know. An older young person is going to have to confront the pot issue, and isn’t going to be crushed that his or her idol smoked some. Jesus Kee-rist, our fucking president was a pot-head. Is he shattering little kids’ dreams? C’mon! ---
**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/228 "2009-02-06T17:42:27Z")
I see your point about conflicting goals but I took it as obeying the country’s laws is working for it’s good. I don’t see the right to smoke pot as on par with say, equal rights for all. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/229 "2009-02-06T17:50:29Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > You are a worthless waste of air, boy I hope you never have kids. For their sake. Yes, obviously if my kids ever smoke pot I have Failed As A Parent[sup]tm[/sup]. Are you even listening to yourself? > [@jimpatro](#): > > Yep. And some people just have no self control. They do things because they can and don’t stop to ponder whether they should. Wait, you _actually_ think that everybody should obey every law no matter what? Do you think for yourself, or just do what holy Authority tells you to do? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/230 "2009-02-06T17:51:53Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > Don’t call the cops on jaywalkers but they should be ticketed. It’s about pedestrian safety and keeping some driver from having to live with injuring or killing another human being. > > I know, I know, it’s about subjugating the populace. :rolleyes: Yes, in many cases it is. People who will follow any law blindly without at any point questioning why the law is in place are easy meat for tyrants – or even for garden-variety government officials who want carte blanche to set up one set of rules for hoi polloi and one for the ruling class. Good to hear you don’t call the cops on jaywalkers though. At least the rod up your ass hasn’t rooted that deeply. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/231 "2009-02-06T17:57:37Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > I see your point about conflicting goals but I took it as obeying the country’s laws is working for it’s good. But it isn’t. Frankly I don’t care what is for the good of the country. Sometimes, people are helped if the law is followed. Other times, the law hurts people. To me, that means it isn’t immoral to break that law, and in some cases, it’s moral to break it in order to draw attention to the injustice. > [@](#): > > I don’t see the right to smoke pot as on par with say, equal rights for all. Neither do I, but to this point you haven’t shown you believe the distinction exists and I’m not sure you’re getting it. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/232 "2009-02-06T17:59:18Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > Please tell that to a 6 year old little girl who wishes that daddy would get better. Brilliant. For a while there, I thought you were serious… ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/233 "2009-02-06T20:08:56Z")
Looks like I won’t be going to Subway for sandwiches any more, either. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/234 "2009-02-06T20:39:22Z")
I don’t get it…Phelps is being paid to plug a product (breakfast cereal, in the case of Kellog Corp.). The advertising gurus have made Phelps part of sympathetic magic-if you eat this crap, you too might be a good looking young man, who breaks swimming records. So what does his (alleged) pot use have to do with this? what does “morality” have to do with winning swimming races? I could see some disgust, if Phelps were found to be a rapist…but smoking a little pot? Bill Clinton did the same 9oops, I forgot-he never inhaled).:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/235 "2009-02-06T21:43:20Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Looks like I won’t be going to Subway for sandwiches any more, either. I love it. Because god knows the 17-year-olds who work behind the counter are high on something, as are most of Subway’s after-hours clients. If I have any problem with Phelps smoking a bong, and I don’t really, it’s only because it’s yet another blatant example of how something can be legal for some or not for others. Where were the Feds after those pics got released of Katherine Heigl smoking an apple bong? Where were they when France McDormand posed for the cover of High Times? ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/236 "2009-02-06T22:45:56Z")
I just want to say that this thread title is one of my favoritest evar!!!11!! Whenever I see or hear about Michael Phelps, all I think of is **oooooh, oooh, Michael Phelps smoked pot,ooooh oohhhh, oooooh, the demon weed.** Friends and strangers look at me strangely at the idiotic grin I get on my face during these moments. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/237 "2009-02-06T23:12:09Z")
I jus’ wanna say - as part of my job, I go into a local county jail about once a week and talk to incarcerated folks. Typically, they’re not up on current events. They **did** , however, all know about Michael Phelps smokin’ weed. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/238 "2009-02-06T23:44:42Z")
I’m sorry if someone posted this before, but I didn’t see it: Kellogg’s sponsorship contract with Phelps was up at the end of the month anyway. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/239 "2009-02-06T23:51:23Z")
Weedies! Breakfast of Champions! ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135/240 "2009-02-06T23:53:44Z")
Phelps may have peaked, but I think it would be funny if he won a bunch more medals in the next Olympics and told Kellogg’s to fuck off. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooh-ooh-michael-phelps-smoked-pot-ooh-ooh-ooh-the-demon-weed/484135.md?page=13)