# Ooooooh... Kyle's mom's a bitch

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 22, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075 "2015-12-22T05:56:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075/121 "2015-12-24T16:04:10Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Thank you **Sam** , I’m in a holiday mood now!
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> Now, I’m writing Santa and requesting a trip to Samui Island for sometime around Easter hoping they appear in bunny costumes.

Maybe [Bangkok Bunnies](http://bangkokbunnies.com/) in Nana Plaza could help you out.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075/122 "2015-12-24T17:54:48Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Maybe [Bangkok Bunnies](http://bangkokbunnies.com/) in Nana Plaza could help you out.

“… the most exiting …”???

Not sure I want to know what “exiting” is, let alone the “most exiting”.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075/123 "2015-12-24T18:07:59Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Maybe [Bangkok Bunnies](http://bangkokbunnies.com/) in Nana Plaza could help you out.

Next time someone asks for proof that heaven exists, I’m posting that link.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075/124 "2015-12-24T18:16:23Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> “… the most exiting …”???
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> Not sure I want to know what “exiting” is, let alone the “most exiting”.

They leave when you run out of money?

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075/125 "2015-12-24T21:05:57Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Without religion - specifically, without Christianity - the holiday would not exist. The holiday is built around the birth of the central figure of one particular religion. You don’t have to “make it religious” when it’s religious at its core.

That is nonsense, and everyone knows it. If the Early Church hadn’t tacked “Christmas” onto the Yule celebrations, we’d still be celebrating the return of the sun without the birth of the Son. No matter how often Fox News and Evangelical Protestants say it, Jesus is not the reason for the season, the solstice is.

I’m not saying all Jews, Muslim, Buddhists, and Hindus should celebrate Christmas, but I do think they should open themselves to celebrating the season somehow, ideally with lights and food and gifts and song. Holly and evergreens optional. Invite a lapsed Catholic - we can wassail with the best.

I was raised Catholic; it was made quite clear to us by the nuns that Santa and trees and presents were all well and good, but they had nothing to do with the birth of the Savior. They never even mentioned Saint Nicholas. I am stilled jarred by any creche with a decorated evergreen behind it.

However, I do think school field trips to visit Santa are a terrible idea.

> [@psychobunny](#):
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> Interesting example: would people here be OK with a field trip on Presidents’ day to the mall to demonstrate the sales to the children along with an assignment to find something they would like on sale and write a letter to their parents asking them to buy it because it is a good deal?

Oddly, yes. Maybe not a letter to the parents, but have them do a bit of research on say, appliances, and then go to Sears and determine if the sale prices are a good deal, that’s a Home Ec field trip I’d support.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075/126 "2015-12-25T03:44:01Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> They leave when you run out of money?

Yeah, that about sums it up.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ooooooh-kyles-moms-a-bitch/741075/127 "2015-12-25T16:55:54Z")

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j666:

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> That is nonsense, and everyone knows it. If the Early Church hadn’t tacked “Christmas” onto the Yule celebrations, we’d still be celebrating the return of the sun without the birth of the Son. No matter how often Fox News and Evangelical Protestants say it, Jesus is not the reason for the season, the solstice is.

Sorry, but THAT is nonsense. Not that there would be a holiday there, possibly there still would be, but that the holiday would take anything like the form it has today. The whole “warm gooey Christmas feeling” that is promoted in pop culture, the sense that Christmas is a time for “love and peace and good will” is rooted in the notion that it’s the day the Christian “Prince of Peace” was born. Certainly, the idea of peace and brotherhood and kindness is universal as a concept, but December would never have become the specific season for it if not for its association with Christianity.

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