# Opal, what the fuck is your problem?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 16, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368 "2008-12-16T06:10:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/201 "2008-12-16T19:23:28Z")

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I hereby propose “buckeyes” as a legitimate filler item for a list which would otherwise only have two things.

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**Author:** ![Valerieblaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Valerieblaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valerieblaise)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/202 "2008-12-16T19:23:49Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> And, as others pointed out, she was not being oversensitive when she said she preferred to not call them “buckeyes,” which really is a gross word for a foodstuff. You, and that other guy who first acted like a jerk in that thread, could both use some time off. You’ve spent so long here that this board is the compass of your world.
> 
> AKA: Get a fucking life and you’ll not be so quick to get livid at piddly shit.

You say that the board is the compass of his world? Is that worse than you, who thinks you’re the moral compass of the boards?

Since when do people have to justify their pittings? Are you, Dropzone, the one who makes the decision of who can and can’t be pitted? Because it seems to me you’re doing what you always doing - acting out your knight-in-shining armor fantasies. “Oh, I’ll rush in and defend this poor little lamb.” Go fuck yourself, you self-righteous asshole.

You’re incapable of letting things NOT be about you. I’ve seen you butt into a million pit threads, telling people they should get along or making stupid self-deprecating jokes to draw attention to yourself.

And you have the BALLS to suggest Dio needs time away? Good God, man.

Oh, and go fuck yourself again for admitting you didn’t even read the whole thread and just jumped in to have your say.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/203 "2008-12-16T19:27:17Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> “buckeyes,” which really is a gross word for a foodstuff.

Oh stop, buckeye isn’t remotely notable as a gross word for food.

Pea - as in “eat every bean and pea on your plate”  
Avocado - you know avocados are called that because they look like testicles  
Nuts - they don’t look as much like testicles, but they sound like testicles  
Kidney beans - natch  
Hot Dog - who wants to eat dogs?  
Rump Roast - some rumps are nice, but I wouldn’t want to cut one up and eat it

The list goes on and on… and you pick on buckeye as being really gross?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/204 "2008-12-16T19:27:44Z")

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Read between the lines, and it’s pretty clear **Opal** was so insecure about her feelings on vegetarianism, and identifying with the state of Ohio, that she couldn’t let that not destroy her thread about a peanut-butter chocolate dessert.

In what world does all that immediately follow the response given by **devilsknew** in post #2? Devilsknew was making a light-hearted connection between the fact she inquired about a dessert that the state she now resides in made famous. She had to make it clear that she was:

1. A vegetarian
2. From Arizona.
3. Not intending to live in Ohio indefinitely.
4. She’s easily grossed out by the name of a treenut.

Okay, so we can’t take this at face value, we need to put it in context; _where does all that come from?_ It’s not _really_ about her feeling squeamish about deer eyeballs or being ignorant about the name because she’s from AZ, it’s about her having to find ways to make sure people know where she stands on her pet issues. To force them in where they don’t belong. It’s twisted, and is very transparent as it says a lot about her character. It’s happened before, and I’m sure it’ll happen again. It’s just sad and irritating. It makes you wonder if she’s like this IRL.

That said, I thought **devilsknew’s** post #4 was perfect and not snarky at all, in that light. In fact, it was pretty damn funny.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/205 "2008-12-16T19:35:15Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Oh stop, buckeye isn’t remotely notable as a gross word for food.
> 
> Pea - as in “eat every bean and pea on your plate”  
> Avocado - you know avocados are called that because they look like testicles  
> Nuts - they don’t look as much like testicles, but they sound like testicles  
> Kidney beans - natch  
> Hot Dog - who wants to eat dogs?  
> Rump Roast - some rumps are nice, but I wouldn’t want to cut one up and eat it
> 
> The list goes on and on… and you pick on buckeye as being really gross?

Not to mention kumquat :eek: and yogurt. Ewwww…

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**Author:** ![ShelliBean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/206 "2008-12-16T19:35:23Z")

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> [@ntucker](#):
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> I hereby propose “buckeyes” as a legitimate filler item for a list which would otherwise only have two things.

I second your proposal.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/207 "2008-12-16T19:36:40Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Read between the lines, and it’s pretty clear **Opal** was so insecure about her feelings on vegetarianism, and identifying with the state of Ohio, that she couldn’t let that not destroy her thread about a peanut-butter chocolate dessert.
> 
> In what world does all that immediately follow the response given by **devilsknew** in post #2? Devilsknew was making a light-hearted connection between the fact she inquired about a dessert that the state she now resides in made famous. She had to make it clear that she was:
> 
> 1. A vegetarian
> 2. From Arizona.
> 3. Not intending to live in Ohio indefinitely.
> 4. She’s easily grossed out by the name of a treenut.
> 
> Okay, so we can’t take this at face value, we need to put it in context; _where does all that come from?_ It’s not _really_ about her feeling squeamish about deer eyeballs or being ignorant about the name because she’s from AZ, it’s about her having to find ways to make sure people know where she stands on her pet issues. To force them in where they don’t belong. It’s twisted, and is very transparent as it says a lot about her character. It’s happened before, and I’m sure it’ll happen again. It’s just sad and irritating. It makes you wonder if she’s like this IRL.
> 
> That said, I thought **devilsknew’s** post #4 was perfect and not snarky at all, in that light. In fact, it was pretty damn funny.

Very, very well said.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/208 "2008-12-16T19:39:36Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
>
> Read between the lines, and it’s pretty clear **Opal** was so insecure about her feelings on vegetarianism, and identifying with the state of Ohio, that she couldn’t let that not destroy her thread about a peanut-butter chocolate dessert.
> 
> In what world does all that immediately follow the response given by **devilsknew** in post #2? Devilsknew was making a light-hearted connection between the fact she inquired about a dessert that the state she now resides in made famous. She had to make it clear that she was:
> 
> 1. A vegetarian
> 2. From Arizona.
> 3. Not intending to live in Ohio indefinitely.
> 4. She’s easily grossed out by the name of a treenut.
> 
> Okay, so we can’t take this at face value, we need to put it in context; _where does all that come from?_ It’s not _really_ about her feeling squeamish about deer eyeballs or being ignorant about the name because she’s from AZ, it’s about her having to find ways to make sure people know where she stands on her pet issues. To force them in where they don’t belong. It’s twisted, and is very transparent as it says a lot about her character. It’s happened before, and I’m sure it’ll happen again. It’s just sad and irritating. It makes you wonder if she’s like this IRL.
> 
> That said, I thought **devilsknew’s** post #4 was perfect and not snarky at all, in that light. In fact, it was pretty damn funny.

Maybe Hubbie #1 moved her to Ohio. Where she had a boring job with computers & was forced to cook pork chops.

Now she’s got an engagement ring! Hubbie #2 is a vegetarian & has encouraged her artistic talent.

So she’s leaving all things Ohioan\* behind! I wish her well but will refrain from offering any advice. Even if she asks.

\*\* Is that a word? \*

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/209 "2008-12-16T19:40:03Z")

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Almost 100% agreement with **cmyk** , except to say that post 4 _was_ snarky, but it was pretty mild and totally appropriate in my opinion. There were several places where **Opal** could have been less of a bitch.

For example, in post 3, she could have said, “Thanks, that’s the one (or not the one). That name’s always grossed me out, though, so I’m going to continue calling them peanut butter balls.” Everyone would have internally said, “huh? how is ‘buckeyes’ gross?” and ignored the whole thing.

Or she could have left her rude response in post 3, and then in post 5 said, “sorry, I know it’s not exactly rational of me, but I’ve got a thing and I just don’t want to call it that; let’s just drop it.”

Or at any point in the rest of the thread, she could have acknowledged that maybe to most people in the world, the word “buckeyes” is not equivalent to “goat spleen” in grossness. Part of the problem is that she continued to act like using the term “buckeyes” was n-a-s-t-y nasty, which is sort of offensive to people who think it’s perfectly fine. Are you calling me nasty if I say it? WTF? When you’re that far outside the norm, your squickiness with the name is your problem, not mine.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/210 "2008-12-16T19:40:18Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> You may be whooshing me, but yeah, I’d read what people had to say about me.
> 
> See, some of us do wnder if some of our behaviors are annoying. I have often wondered if my mentioning I am from India is annoying, and I do watch and see if people complain. I have changed some of my other behaviors because people complain.
> 
> Some people adjust their MO. Some people think - oh, I never even realized I was doing that!
> 
> Some people think they’re too special.
> 
> ETA: It’s not really just about the goddamn buckeye, and you are being disingenous at the very least to say it is. Like others have said, it’s the last straw. She asks questions and then nitpicks every response. It’s annoying and this is only the latest manifestation of her rudeness.

I agree with **Freudian Slit** , actually. Were I **Opal** , I wouldn’t respond to this thread, either, and though I feel this pitting is justified to some extent (I’ve gotten a warning in the past for calling her out on her shit in a non-Pit thread), it also smacks of mock outrage – \*\*Diogenes \*\*is being as huge a dick in this thread as \*\*Opal \*\*was in the original – and I get the sense that many are lining up just to take a swipe because they know she, like **Guin** , is a safe target and one of the SDMB punching bags.

Also, add me to the long list of people that are totally squicked out by tight groupings of circles. I once made myself sick by staring at dozens of straws from the top down, and am also greatly disturbed by any sort of skin lesion that manifests itself as an extensive rash. Mumps, measles, chicken pox, gooseflesh, or even really severe acne churn my stomach.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/211 "2008-12-16T19:44:10Z")

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> [@ntucker](#):
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> Almost 100% agreement with **cmyk** , except to say that post 4 _was_ snarky, but it was pretty mild and totally appropriate in my opinion.

I’d like to change my mind and agree with this. It _was_ snarky, but totally deserved.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/212 "2008-12-16T19:44:57Z")

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> [@Scissorjack](#):
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> Four pages of this and I want some toad-in-the-hole.

That had better be a food item, and not a sex act gone horribly wrong. 😛

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/213 "2008-12-16T19:46:18Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I’d like to change my mind and agree with this. It _was_ snarky, but totally deserved.

I’d like to update my percentage of agreement with **cmyk** to 100%.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/214 "2008-12-16T19:47:32Z")

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> [@jali](#):
>
> Did anyone here sign up to be her minion?

I need minions. How do I go about acquiring some? Is there a Minion’s Union Hall where they all hang around looking for work or something like that?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/215 "2008-12-16T19:47:40Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> “I have a recipe for buckeyes that I’d love to foreward to you.”  
> “OMG, DON’T SAY BUCKEYES! IT’S GROSS!”  
> Yeah. Opal is being the level-headed one here.
> 
> This smacks of offenderattiism. Are we not allowed to refer to any foodstuff around her which might sound vaguely like it might have once been part of some sort of living being? She didn’t need to be such a snatch in condemning the term “buckeye” like it was a personal insult to her.

She didn’t say anything about what anyone else should call them. Rather, after being told she should call them “buckeyes,” she explained that she won’t be calling them that, and why.

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Flip\_Pancake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@Flip\_Pancake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flip_Pancake)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/216 "2008-12-16T19:48:14Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> OK. Now that I’ve calmed down a bit, I think I’m actually glad to find out that there are other people with this bizarre issue.

Sorry to bump this with a hijack, but it sounds like a bout of [trypophobia](http://ezinearticles.com/?Fear-of-Holes---Trypophobia&id=1629724).

And no, [you’re not alone](http://www.unusualphobias.com/clusters.html).

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/217 "2008-12-16T19:48:38Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> I agree with **Freudian Slit** , actually. Were I **Opal** , I wouldn’t respond to this thread, either, and though I feel this pitting is justified to some extent (I’ve gotten a warning in the past for calling her out on her shit in a non-Pit thread), it also smacks of mock outrage – \*\*Diogenes \*\*is being as huge a dick in this thread as \*\*Opal \*\*was in the original – and I get the sense that many are lining up just to take a swipe because they know she, like **Guin** , is a safe target and one of the SDMB punching bags.

I didn’t say a thing about her responding to it. Merely reading it. Moreover, she never responds to any criticism of her. Diva.

And she is one of the SDMB punching bags? She’s always been a real heroine around here. I thought people loved her.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/218 "2008-12-16T19:49:49Z")

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> [@Flip\_Pancake](#):
>
> Sorry to bump this with a hijack, but it sounds like a bout of [trypophobia](http://ezinearticles.com/?Fear-of-Holes---Trypophobia&id=1629724).
> 
> And no, [you’re not alone](http://www.unusualphobias.com/clusters.html).

Woah. Now that is something I’ve not heard of before. Very interesting.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/219 "2008-12-16T19:51:01Z")

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> [@ntucker](#):
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> I’d like to update my percentage of agreement with **cmyk** to 100%.

😃

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/220 "2008-12-16T19:51:37Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I didn’t say a thing about her responding to it. Merely reading it. Moreover, she never responds to any criticism of her. Diva.
> 
> And she is one of the SDMB punching bags? She’s always been a real heroine around here. I thought people loved her.

I’ve never been pitted, but I suppose I’d read a little, but five pages of this? At this point, it’s not even about her anymore.

I don’t know, this seems like it’s about more than just this thread, but more of a pattern of how she responds. Which I’ll accept–I haven’t really paid much attention to her in that regard. If she does have a pattern of it, I guess I could see how maybe this was the last straw, but I hadn’t noticed it myself. I’m just bemused that a thread on buckeyes became so much more.

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