# Opal, what the fuck is your problem?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 16, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368 "2008-12-16T06:10:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/601 "2008-12-18T02:53:40Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> She seems to me to be a woman with a great deal on her plate in the way of life’s difficulties and yet she is working hard to overcome them. She probably feels overwhelmed much of the time and she probably just doesn’t have the time, patience or perspective on these things to respond in the polite way most of us would expect.

Oh, give me a fucking break. There’s plenty of people on this board who have dealt with _much_ heavier shit than Opal, and they manage to be polite. If she’s really that overwhelmed, maybe she can lighten her load a little by not spending half her day futzing around with her !!!ENGAGEMENT RING!!!

(I emphasized that just in case you forgot that she was engaged.)

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> However, we all know that artists can be temperamental. They just don’t see the world in the conventional way that most of us do, and so they can seem scornful or dismissive of what most of the rest of us think because it’s so foreign to their own way of thinking.

Do you actually believe that shit? Seriously. Do you? 'Cause if you do, you’re a total sucker.

Certain artists’ work is so valued that people are willing to put up with whatever shit they dish out. And some of those artists take that opportunity to act like unmitigated assholes. Because they can get away with it.

And because of the way certain very famous artists have gotten away with acting, rubes like you are willing to accept bad behavior from _any_ artist.

Sucker.

> [@emilyforce](#):
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> **Autolycus** , I think the word you might be looking for to describe the tone here is “exasperation”.

Exactamundo. I don’t hate Opal. But she’s really fucking annoying.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/602 "2008-12-18T02:58:26Z")

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Exactly.

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**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/603 "2008-12-18T02:59:03Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> God bless us, every one.

1. I for one am going to say ‘Thank You’ more often lest I be dragged into the pit.
2. I’m making this nice list rather than going off on you.
3. _Buckeye!_ 😉

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/604 "2008-12-18T03:09:26Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> Opal may have her dismissive moments, but her behavior pales in comparison to other posters in this thread.

The truth is, a poster slipped up and earned herself a pitting in a thread that happened to turn into some real hilarious shit. It could happen to anyone. Some of the funniest posters have come out of the woodwork to drop some comedy gold in heavy nuggets.

When it all comes together in a throbbing, pulsating 13 pages of hilarity, people feel they need to step in and defend Opal. The truth is, the funniest shit in this thread has buckeye to do with her at all. I had a ton of fun in this thread, and never said a word against her, personally. No problem with her style in posting. As a matter of fact, I’m going to go ahead and admit I don’t get the problem with her style. She is asking about something specific, why does she have to be overly gentle in picking and choosing which responses fit?

That doesn’t mean I’m going to not have some fun when the comedy is going down up in the Pit!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/605 "2008-12-18T03:09:39Z")

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[Quote=Starving Artist]  
However, we all know that artists can be temperamental. They just don’t see the world in the conventional way that most of us do, and so they can seem scornful or dismissive of what most of the rest of us think because it’s so foreign to their own way of thinking.  
[/quote]  
You are probably unaware that everyone born in the U.S. between 1946 and 1964 just happened to grow up to be artists. 😛

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/606 "2008-12-18T03:09:51Z")

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And you know what? She’s been using her vegetarianism as an excuse for attention whoring and immense rudeness for a hell of a long time.

Way back when, at one of the mega-NYC Dopefests, my brother hosted a Sunday brunch. Bagels and lox were served.

Dominic wandered over to the table, looked at the lox, and called across the room to Opal: “what’s this?”

She hollered back, **":eek::eek::eek: DON’T TOUCH THAT!!! IT’S MEEEEEEAAAAAAAT!!! :eek::eek::eek:**"

It was so incredibly rude the way she handled that. If she doesn’t want her kid to eat fish, fine. No problemo. But she loudly let everyone know that something her host had served was so disgusting and offensive to her that she had to protect her child from it. I just couldn’t believe it.

People here often complain about the “offenderati,” but they can never define who exactly are included in this group. Well, I realize now that we do have one unequivocal member of the offenderati: **OpalCat**.

ETA: People have been mentioning something about begging for money on the internet to get plastic surgery. I must have missed something. Would someone kindly enlighten me?

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/607 "2008-12-18T03:22:25Z")

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Hey! It got less fun in here! What the buckeye?

Am I gonna have to break out the go-go boots and cage dancing?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/608 "2008-12-18T03:23:31Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> You forgot the third group: everyone you come into contact with in your daily life.

No, I was responding to your comment about people knowing any apologies I offer are insincere.\* So I was talking about groups of people who will know what’s really going on in my head when I or others are saying they’re sorry for something. Most people I come into contact with haven’t heard my philosophizing and confessionalising about this, and so will have no idea about any of the stuff I’ve mentioned in this thread.

I haven’t responded to the rest of your post, not because there was anything wrong with it, but simply because I thought it was for the most part fair enough.

-FrL-

\*Though in a previous post I allowed for this characterization, I’ve since changed my mind. If I say I’m sorry about something, I’m not _expressing_ my remorse for reasons already stated. But I _am_ stating, truthfully, that I am remorseful. I don’t see what would be insincere about that. Think of a person who, for whatever reason, does not reflexively exclaim when he is in pain. But he comes to notice that, when he is hurt, people are much more responsive to him when he says something like “Ouch,” in a certain tone. (If he says it conversationally, they don’t respond of course. So he has to say it “like he means it.”) So he has a policy of wincing, and acting like he is in pain, when and only when he is in pain. When he does this, he’s not expressing his pain in the way you and I do. But he is truthfully indicating that he is in pain, using the language (broadly construed) he knows is the right language to indicate that fact. So then, of course, he is not insincerely drawing attention to his hurt condition when he says “ouch” and winces and hops around and so on–though it _is_ all something of a put-on, in a sense, since none of it comes naturally to him! Moreover, when others are in pain and are wincing and saying “ouch” and so on, he himself often thinks in the back of his mind even as he is running over to help “Why in the world does he move around like that? Why not just explain calmly what happened?” But he knows that’s just how people are, and he knows there is in fact something wrong with _him_, and so he appropriately doesn’t act overtly on these kinds of thoughts usually (except maybe when waxing philosophical and confessional) and instead just runs over to help.

With me and apologies, its something like that.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/609 "2008-12-18T03:24:38Z")

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> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#):
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> Hey! It got less fun in here! What the buckeye?
> 
> Am I gonna have to break out the go-go boots and cage dancing?

_Grabs a beer and pulls up a chair._

Hey, I’m happily married and hetero, but I’m not gonna say no to go-go dancing in a cage.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/610 "2008-12-18T03:26:46Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> 😕
> 
> (And the thread won’t be complete until a post gets graped.)

Screw that,  
This post has been buckeyed by the buckeyeist!

CMC +fnord!

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/611 "2008-12-18T03:28:46Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> You don’t feel it necessary to practice this quaint custom. You’re special. Duly noted.

Um, wait. Except this. This is not fair enough. For I have said in our conversation several times that I _do_ feel it necessary to practice this quaint custom, that I _do_ practice it, and that I think there is something wrong with _me_ that leads me to think the thoughts I’ve expressed in this conversation. There is clearly something almost everyone but me is capable of understanding. I am suffering from a deficit of some kind. I know this–and have said so now three times, though the first time only implicitly through the “confessional” nature of my first post. Hence my tendency to sympathize with OpalCat in the threads linked to. The point of my first post was that I suspect she and I share similar deficits. (I bet she really would appreciate someone saying _that_… ;))

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/612 "2008-12-18T03:31:27Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Screw that,  
> This post has been buckeyed by the buckeyeist!
> 
> CMC +fnord!

I saw that!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/613 "2008-12-18T03:36:32Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> You are probably unaware that everyone born in the U.S. between 1946 and 1964 just happened to grow up to be artists. 😛

You’ve noticed that too, eh?

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/614 "2008-12-18T03:37:47Z")

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> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#):
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> Hey! It got less fun in here! What the buckeye?
> 
> Am I gonna have to break out the go-go boots and cage dancing?

**Starving Artist** started it!

And yes please break out the go-go boots. Always a good look for a pitting.

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**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/615 "2008-12-18T03:40:44Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> The truth is, a poster slipped up and earned herself a pitting in a thread that happened to turn into some real hilarious shit. It could happen to anyone. Some of the funniest posters have come out of the woodwork to drop some comedy gold in heavy nuggets.
> 
> When it all comes together in a throbbing, pulsating 13 pages of hilarity, people feel they need to step in and defend Opal. The truth is, the funniest shit in this thread has buckeye to do with her at all. I had a ton of fun in this thread, and never said a word against her, personally. No problem with her style in posting. As a matter of fact, I’m going to go ahead and admit I don’t get the problem with her style. She is asking about something specific, why does she have to be overly gentle in picking and choosing which responses fit?
> 
> That doesn’t mean I’m going to not have some fun when the comedy is going down up in the Pit!

I’m not sure what the point of your post was, as you lost me by “throbbing, pulsating”, but I for one have an erection.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/616 "2008-12-18T03:40:52Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> And you know what? She’s been using her vegetarianism as an excuse for attention whoring and immense rudeness for a hell of a long time.

\*\*  
Heh–anyone else remember the now apparently lost (4 searches/20 fucking minutes (5 minutes between searches? What kind of brainless rule is that shit?) and no results) thread where she compared leather-bound books to lampshades made from Jewish Holocaust victim’s skins? And then compared the owners of both (Quoth **Opal** : BUT UR 2 DUM TO C THAT IT IS A ANALOGY! Quoth Everyone Else: We see that. But we also see that it’s a CRASS, INSENSITIVE AND FUCKING STOOPID analogy!")  
PS: Real lox? The salty stuff that you can’t get ANY-fucking-WHERE else in the world but New York? ☹ You could have mailed me her share. Even if it was “just” nova, you coulda mailed it to me. 😉

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/617 "2008-12-18T03:49:02Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Since when is being an “artist” an excuse for anything? I’m a pretty good musician and songwriter. I can still say “thank you” if somebody helps me, or “exuse me” if I step on their foot.

Are you really holding yourself up as a beacon of politeness and civility, **Dio**? 😃

> [@tomndebb](#):
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> You are probably unaware that everyone born in the U.S. between 1946 and 1964 just happened to grow up to be artists. 😛

No, but it has occurred to me that an unusually large number of that (my) generation has tended to adopt the sort of impractical ‘artisty’ mindset to which you are alluding, in which the desire is for no rules and for someone else to pay the bills while still allowing you to do whatever you want.

I blame the news and entertainment media, and colleges. 😉

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/618 "2008-12-18T04:15:30Z")

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So she’s an artist. Big deal! Elvis was an artist. But he always said “Thank you, thank you very much.” That’s why he is the King, and **OpalCat** is a schmuck.

[/end Dogma]

Seriously, though. Whoop-di-fucking-doo that she’s an artist, the kind with art in her very soul. The world is FULL of people with art in their souls. It’s no excuse for being a snotwad.

Neither is having had a lot of bad shit happen in your life. There’s a club for people who have a lot of bad shit happen in their lives. It’s called everybody. To continue with the movie quotes, life _is_ pain. Anybody who says differently is selling something.

You suck it the fuck up and try to treat other people the best you can, because odds are great they’re going through just as bad a time as you are and the last thing they need is to deal with another asshole.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/619 "2008-12-18T04:19:43Z")

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> [@CrazyCatLady](#):
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> You suck it the fuck up and try to treat other people the best you can…

How do you know she isn’t?

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/620 "2008-12-18T04:21:44Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Have you tried the caffeine-free Hairy Nutsack Roast, by Buckeye Brewers? I hear it’s delicious.

Oh GODS, make it stop! I have to maintain my scowling professional demeanor!

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