# Opal, what the fuck is your problem? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368 "2008-12-16T06:10:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DogMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@DogMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DogMom)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/81 "2008-12-16T14:16:58Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > There was nothing nasty about it. “We call them buckeyeys!” “I don’t.” If you tender flowers think that’s nasty, I hope you never have to fend for yourselves in the real world. > > Don’t pretend it’s about manners either. You can track the thread… the nastiness and profanity never made its entrance until people started excoriating her for refusing to use the word ‘buckeye’. The problem is, if she’s looking for recipes for her “peanut butter balls”, she’d have a **much** easier time of it if she’d just accept the fact that the majority of the recipe world calls them “buckeyes”. As was pointed out in the other thread, there are over twice the number of hits from a search for “Buckeye Confection” over “peanut butter balls”. When I run a search on [Allrecipes.com](http://Allrecipes.com) for “peanut butter balls”, I get fifteen results - TWO of which might be what Opal was looking for. Run a search for “Buckeyes”, and I get nine results - SEVEN of which are candidates for Opal’s desired recipe. I understand her desire to not have to think about eating squishy deer eyes, but really - if you disdain to call the treat what the majority of the cooking world calls the damn things, then you’re not gonna find what you’re looking for. Responding with “oh, ew, I’d _never_ call them _THAT!!!_” without even checking the recipe to see if it’s what she wanted…yeah, that’s pretty prima-donna. I wouldn’t call it “nasty”, but I would certainly call it _rude_. Just as I would if someone asked me in person if I knew where they could get a recipe for “Peanut Butter Balls” and I said, “sure, just look up recipes for “Buckeyes”; there’s tons of 'em out there” and the person said, “EW! GROSS! I’m not looking _that_ up, that’s an ICKY name!” Well, sucks to be you then. Good luck finding your “peanut butter balls” recipes. They GAVE her the help she wanted, she just didn’t like the nomenclature, and therefore decided to be rude about the help she got. ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/82 "2008-12-16T14:19:05Z")
> [@Uvula\_Donor](#): > > How DARE you contradict any statement or opinion expressed by Opal, Queen of the SDMB. Yeah, seems to me that ship has sailed. It also seems to me she never got the memo. Her reaction in that thread is about the weirdest thing I’ve seen lately. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/83 "2008-12-16T14:19:42Z")
> [@Uvula\_Donor](#): > > Eww. I hate corn. Who the fuck wants to eat anything named after the growths on people’s skeevy old _feet?_ Fucking disgusting. Ouch! Hot coffee out the nose! Awesome, thanks for the morning laugh! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/84 "2008-12-16T14:19:59Z")
I’m a little late to the party, but this pitting is long overdue. I also noticed the ring thread and it drove me crazy then too. Sometimes a Pitting serves to get your attention to behaviors in yourself you haven’t noticed, so I’ll say this nicely and without insults: Opal, many of us are just tired of giving you advice. I flat-out won’t. I’ve seen how you respond to people nicely giving you advice when you have asked for it. You are dismissive and curt, and don’t even consider many of the suggestions, and you come up with 1000x ways the idea won’t work. It’s like crying wolf. After a while it doesn’t work anymore. FTR, I grew up in MI and do indeed know what buckeyes were. ---
**Author:** ![criminey.jicket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@criminey.jicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/criminey.jicket)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/85 "2008-12-16T14:27:38Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > There is nothing more aggravating than to give well intentioned advice and have it be ignored or dismissed. **Opal** is indeed a talented artist and generally a nice person here, but this is a game that many are tired of. Once was enough for me. The ring thread practically gave me Guillain-Barré. **Opal** , until you start showing a modicum of manners for the efforts made on your behalf, I won’t be bothering to do your work for you. As for the OP, this pitting could have been avoided by a 30 second recipe search. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/86 "2008-12-16T14:28:52Z")
Just read the thread Dio linked, and that is some bizarre behavior. Several of her responses had me saying “WTF” almost immediately. How does one live in Ohio and not have the slightest idea what a buckeye is? How does one believe that post #3 is an appropriate response? Everyone claiming that “she just said she doesn’t like to call it that” needs to have their sight checked. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/87 "2008-12-16T14:29:58Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I figure devilsknew and Diogenes were pointlessly antagonistic, while Opal was also pointlessly antagonistic, so there’s pointless antagonism all around! You shut up! ---
**Author:** ![ShelliBean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/88 "2008-12-16T14:30:12Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Well, you would think it goes without saying that ladyfingers are not actually some dead lady’s fingers, but then again, hey maybe it doesn’t. Of course not. I keep her alive so the meat stays fresher. It puts the lotion on it’s skin… ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/89 "2008-12-16T14:31:58Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > There was nothing nasty about it. “We call them buckeyeys!” “I don’t.” If you tender flowers think that’s nasty, I hope you never have to fend for yourselves in the real world. > > Don’t pretend it’s about manners either. You can track the thread… the nastiness and profanity never made its entrance until people started excoriating her for refusing to use the word ‘buckeye’. I didn’t see a “thank you” in her first response. That’s the first sign of nasty. If someone does something to help you even if it’s not exactly what you want, they need to be thanked for their effort. Did anyone here sign up to be her minion? I took a look at the other thread mentioned - same treatment - as though some of the posters are beneath her or if some of their suggestions don’t warrant a response. If a friend of mine is an ass, I’ll call him on it - I won’t defend boorish behavior as you seem to be doing. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/90 "2008-12-16T14:35:27Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Who gives a fuck where she’s coming from? She asked a question, **she got a polite answer**. There was no reason for her to get pissy about it. She can keep her personal hangups to herself. > > Monkey spleen. [Bolding Mine] Well, it looks to me that the conversation **was** polite until **develsknew** threw out the snark: [Quote=devilsknew] "OOOhhhh… aren’t you special. Guess you set me straight. [/Quote] Before that it appears that **Opal’s** comments were closer to conversation than confrontation. After the snark, \*\* Opal\*\* fired back. I agree she’s oversensitive about the animal/tree nut issue but I think she had a damn good reason to go into hyper-pissed mode after **devilsknew’s** comment. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/91 "2008-12-16T14:41:34Z")
Wait a minute! Peanut butter!? Where the hell does peanut butter come in? Traditional Buck Eye recipe: 1.) Scoop Buck Eye from eye socket with large melon baller. 2.) Skewer Buck Eye with pre-prepared 4 foot pointy stick. 3.) Roast over open fire, rotating as required, until Buck Eye is a golden brown or until pupils fully dialate. 4.) Serve with (optional) Sour Cream and Guacamole. 5.) Enjoy! Next week’s recipe Blackened Buck Eyes… ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/92 "2008-12-16T14:47:43Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > And what about corn? It grows high as an elephant’s eye, don’cha know? I ate an elephant’s eye once. Got it at a motel restaurant in Vandalia, Illinois. Consisted of a poached egg in the middle of a slice of French toast. Not bad. On advise of council, I refrain from commenting on earlier references to “moose brains”. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/93 "2008-12-16T14:49:04Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > [Bolding Mine] > > Well, it looks to me that the conversation **was** polite until **develsknew** threw out the snark: > > Before that it appears that **Opal’s** comments were closer to conversation than confrontation. > > After the snark, \*\* Opal\*\* fired back. I agree she’s oversensitive about the animal/tree nut issue but I think she had a damn good reason to go into hyper-pissed mode after **devilsknew’s** comment. How in the world you can consider Opal’s first response polite is beyond me. A polite response would have looked like this: “Thank you”. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/94 "2008-12-16T14:49:04Z")
> [@criminey.jicket](#): > > Once was enough for me. The ring thread practically gave me Guillain-Barré. > > **Opal** , until you start showing a modicum of manners for the efforts made on your behalf, I won’t be bothering to do your work for you. > > As for the OP, this pitting could have been avoided by a 30 second recipe search. The ring one was bad, but the “I need a case that locks for my liquor” was nuts too. That’s too big! That’s too small! Too expensive! That won’t work! Oh, I don’t want to do that! On and on. I believe the ring one was more a cry for attention about her engagement and being an _artiste_ than the actual jewelry. There are many professions where wearing any type of jewelry is downright dangerous. These people find a way to soldier on with their work without wearing their rings. I’m sure it’s super tough, but by God, they find a way! People were giving her good advice, and she was just smacking each one away with nary a thank you to show appreciation for other people spending their time to help her. If there are NO options she can accept, then put on your big girl panties and put the ring in a drawer while you’re doing your art. I promise, you’ll live without the ring on while you’re working. Pinky swear! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/95 "2008-12-16T14:50:09Z")
> [@capybara](#): > > I’l raise your beehive a LOTUS ROOT. Agh. I love Japanese food, but when I go to the Asian grocery or look through the Japanese cookbook those science-fiction horrors stare back at me. Ugh, yeah - it doesn’t help that I’ve been making my own bento-inspired lunches and the creator of the [Just Bento](http://www.justbento.com/) website, and similar sites, will occasionally have recipes using the stuff. Those are bad, so are those decorative seed pods - sometimes showing up in dried flower arrangements - that have a mess of holes in them with a big seed inside each hole. You know, the one that shows up in a photoshop on Snopes that I’m not even going to describe lest I think about it more. > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > And yet you apparently have no problems with the herding of ferrets. Hypocrite! Oh, you don’t understand. That’s cruel to **me** ; the ferrets barely notice my efforts. They have teeny-tiny little attention spans, and their energy levels are much like they’ve been sucking down espresso, complete with long crashes and zonked-out-cold sleeping. (I did actually manage to teach one to sit up on command, though.) Getting back on topic, I used Google’s image search on “buckeye” and the first three pictures, in order, were related to the sports team, then the nut, then the dessert. Checking out the nut, I realize I grew up calling those “horse chestnuts” (semi-rural Wisconsin), and on top of calling the dessert “peanut butter balls”, learning how “buckeye” was the more common term would have done a lot in helping me search for a recipe were I looking for one. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/96 "2008-12-16T14:51:37Z")
I must have been living in a cave. Where I grew up (St. Louis Mo) a buckeye was a nut or an Ohio State fan. A peanut butter ball was a peanut butter ball. I can see how somebody wouldn’t know about the peanut butter ball name. Still, it looks to me like Opal is getting pitted because of past issues. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/97 "2008-12-16T14:52:50Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Me too! And considering the arduous task of making them for the first time; seeing as how I’m in SC now and they are no longer readily available to me. Educate me though: _eight-pointers_? This was an attempted joke, obviously failed. Bucks in hunting lingo are identified by their antlers. It’s kind of silly, but generally a hunter is prouder of killing a buck with a higher point value… 8 points would be two antlers with four points each… like [this](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dreamstime.com/eight-point-buck-thumb1564910.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dreamstime.com/eightpointbuck-image1564910&usg=__fr-VRB_5_sXPIsQk_xrH72GFJs0=&h=240&w=300&sz=53&hl=en&start=4&sig2=8w65YqmpIlPJ4HjEdl8pfw&um=1&tbnid=z_2rhfRVs0YiaM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=116&ei=Kb1HSYufPJqatweS7ZCODg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deight%2Bpoint%2Bbuck%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1C1GGLS_enUS300US303%26sa%3DN), and considered an impressive kill (illustrative photograph of a very alive and apparently happy male deer.) It’s sort of weird, since my religion now precludes killing things, but I actually did some bow hunting when I grew up (I never killed anything though, I was more into it for the archery.) My stepdad was obsessive about hunting and considered it his own kind of religion, so it’s something I just did as a family activity because my parents were really enthusiastic about it. I don’t personally wish to participate in the ritual killing of animals and I never even really understood it when that’s exactly what I was sitting in the woods to do. Despite my current perspective, however, it would never occur to me to be grossed out by the word ‘‘buckeye’’ and while I don’t support hunting personally, I can respect that it’s a huge part of the culture and upbringing of a lot of perfectly well-adjusted, decent people. Besides, venison is really tasty, and that’s one way you’re guaranteed to eat ‘‘organic.’’ I’m totally serious about the deliciousness of those cookies, though. Methinks I am going to have to make an impromptu shopping trip this weekend… ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/98 "2008-12-16T14:56:06Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Spicy Dismembered Chicken Arms _snort_ ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/99 "2008-12-16T15:00:13Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I seem to recall she’d mentioned before that she has a really, really, really squeamish reaction about certain things, maybe related to OCD or something similar. . But that’s when this whole internet thing comes in handy, so to speak. You get a squiggy reaction to stuff IRL? Can be difficult to restrain, I agree. However, since you’re posting on a fucking message board, you really have the ability to wait the 30 seconds or so for the squiggy reaction to pass so that you can respond in an appropriate manner. But that didn’t happen here, now, did it. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/100 "2008-12-16T15:00:52Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > How in the world you can consider Opal’s first response polite is beyond me. A polite response would have looked like this: > > “Thank you”. Try imagining that Opal hadn’t been the one responding. **Sweet-Old-Granny:** I need a recipe for Cherry cobbler **SnarkMan:** Oh you mean “Wounded Bleeding Baby” pie - here’s a recipe **Sweet-Old-Granny:** My word, how terrible of a name. I don’t even like to think of that! **Everyone:** Fuck you Granny! I’m just saying, **Opal** may deserve a pitting but there’s gotta be more to it than her response to that thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368.md?page=6)