# Opal, what the fuck is your problem? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368 "2008-12-16T06:10:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/101 "2008-12-16T15:10:15Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > [Bolding Mine] > > Well, it looks to me that the conversation **was** polite until **develsknew** threw out the snark: > > Before that it appears that **Opal’s** comments were closer to conversation than confrontation. Read it again. Opal was the first one to be a bitch. She was the one who crapped all over somebody for giving her the information that she asked for. > [@](#): > > After the snark, \*\* Opal\*\* fired back. I agree she’s oversensitive about the animal/tree nut issue but I think she had a damn good reason to go into hyper-pissed mode after **devilsknew’s** comment. Opal STARTED the shit, and no, she didn’t have a good reason. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/102 "2008-12-16T15:14:10Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Try imagining that Opal hadn’t been the one responding. > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** I need a recipe for Cherry cobbler > > **SnarkMan:** Oh you mean “Wounded Bleeding Baby” pie - here’s a recipe > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** My word, how terrible of a name. I don’t even like to think of that! > > **Everyone:** Fuck you Granny! This comparison only works if Buckeye is conceivably as offensive a name as Wounded Bleeding Baby Pie. As has been mentioned multiple times, Buckeye is a nut and a tree, the state tree of Ohio. It may have been named via a resemblance to a deer’s eye, but there’s no reason to be horrified at such a naming convention, not all deer have their eyes plucked out and eaten by hunters. It’s perfectly possible to see a deer’s eye and compare it to a nut while they (the deer) frolic about in the wilderness. > [@](#): > > I’m just saying, **Opal** may deserve a pitting but there’s gotta be more to it than her response to that thread. Indeed, there is more to it, a noticeable pattern of OpalCat requesting help/advice from this community, then complaining constantly about the help/advice she’s given, without being appropriately thankful of the time and thought people put into helping her. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/103 "2008-12-16T15:20:34Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Try imagining that Opal hadn’t been the one responding. > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** I need a recipe for Cherry cobbler > > **SnarkMan:** Oh you mean “Wounded Bleeding Baby” pie - here’s a recipe > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** My word, how terrible of a name. I don’t even like to think of that! > > **Everyone:** Fuck you Granny! > I’m just saying, **Opal** may deserve a pitting but there’s gotta be more to it than her response to that thread. I’ve barely ever noticed Opal before. I don’t read a lot of MPSIMS prattle. I opened the thread in question because it was a recipe thread. Her behavior there was jarringly inappropriate and rude. This pitting has nothing to with any past history on my part. It has to do with being irritated at the double whammy of ignorance and rudeness. The stupidity of thinking that a buckeye is literally a “dead deer’s eye” is pitworthy all by itself. ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/104 "2008-12-16T15:22:17Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Try imagining that Opal hadn’t been the one responding. > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** I need a recipe for Cherry cobbler > > **SnarkMan:** Oh you mean “Wounded Bleeding Baby” pie - here’s a recipe > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** My word, how terrible of a name. I don’t even like to think of that! > > **Everyone:** Fuck you Granny! > I’m just saying, **Opal** may deserve a pitting but there’s gotta be more to it than her response to that thread. First: “buckeye” is NOTHING like wounded bleeding baby. The buckeye state, the buckeyes - what kind of mind automatically dismisses the common usage and thinks actual animal eyes? Second:Anyone else would have said “thank you”. Third - nope - don’t have a third and don’t need to follow someone’s rule. As others have mentioned there are a lot of things known by names that someone or the other may find distasteful for their personal reasons. If I asked for a dark cookie with vanilla cream, someone may suggest “oreo” without knowing that my uncle was considered an oreo by some in my family and it’s _never_ discussed. For me to lecture that person on why I don’t use the term is just rude since the person was trying to help me find a cookie. Fuck ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/105 "2008-12-16T15:23:11Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Indeed, there is more to it, a noticeable pattern of OpalCat requesting help/advice from this community, then complaining constantly about the help/advice she’s given, without being appropriately thankful of the time and thought people put into helping her. Agreed. To be honest, I hadn’t noticed this issue the way others have in the past, not having much to do with **Opal** , but ‘past issues’ is brought up as if people are using this particular Pitting to pile on to her with unrelated crap. What it looks like is that this is the latest in a pattern of observable behavior in which **Opal** is consistently unappreciative of folks trying to help her. That the help isn’t always what she’s looking for doesn’t really make a difference, as folks aren’t mind readers and they _are_ genuinely trying to be helpful. What makes it worse in this case is that she _got_ what she wanted, but instead of acknowledging the help she chose to snark on the name. Even with “ **Sweet-Old-Granny** ” in the overly exaggerated example, I’d’ve been inclined to think, “Well tough luck gramma, that’s what folks call it. I gave you the recipe, didn’t I?” ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/106 "2008-12-16T15:27:28Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > I’m just saying, **Opal** may deserve a pitting but there’s gotta be more to it than her response to that thread. People are trying to point that out, too. There’s already, what, four or five other threads cited where the conversation goes like: **Opal:** I need this thing. **Doper:** How about this? Or this? **Opal:** _head spins around_ **Other Doper:** How about this? **Opal:** _spits pea soup_ etc. This thread just got a Special Pittable Mention as the downright weirdest reaction to solicited advice ever, by a poster who has a history of weird reactions to solicited advice. ---
**Author:** ![criminey.jicket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@criminey.jicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/criminey.jicket)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/107 "2008-12-16T15:28:12Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > …learning how “buckeye” was the more common term would have done a lot in helping me search for a recipe were I looking for one. I searched ‘peanut butter **balls** +graham crackers+icing sugar’ and was provided links to several recipes for, but not labelled, ‘Buckeyes’ on the first page. There are also many recipe sites online which let you plug in known ingredients and the food type, e.g., dessert. Yes, more (defined) is usually better where net searches are concerned, but a fellow doper has shown me sometimes [less is more](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=484618). ---
**Author:** ![Rolken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df788c/32.png) [@Rolken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rolken)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/108 "2008-12-16T15:28:40Z")
This pair of topics reminds me of how political factions tend to be at each other’s throats regardless of how many significant issues there are to be at each other’s throats about. If there’s not a war, there’s a cultural decline, and if not that then there’s a company firing some workers, and if not that then people are burning flags, and if not that then there’s one mostly dead person in a hospital who requires congressional intervention. I just don’t get it. Several here seem to have known that Opal tends to react unfavorably to advice, and yet they go into the topic anyway and subsequently flip out and go into angry rant mode when she does - and judging from the immediate exaggerated vitriol of the responses, that seems to have been according to plan. What is the point? What do you get out of doing this? Is public anger a form of entertainment that I don’t appreciate? The OP questions her mental stability and compares her to Hitler _for not being thoughtful in response to a recipe_? I don’t think she’s the one suffering from chemical imbalances. ---
**Author:** ![Breccia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Breccia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Breccia)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/109 "2008-12-16T15:29:18Z")
Not that I’m one to beat a _dead horse_, but, one more time. The header of this message board is: “Fighting ignorance since 1973”, or some such _hog wash_. Opal lives in the Buckeye State aka Ohio, yet she clearly doesn’t understand that the term does not refer to a Buck’s Eye. [Does she also Go Off wrt the state’s nickname? _really_??] Opal then defends herself by saying, “…I’m a vegetarian girl from Arizona and calling them “buckeyes” grosses me out. (Not for sports reasons, but from dead-animal-body-part reasons).” HUH? What “dead body parts”?? Even if the buckeye nut came to its name due to its appearance being like a male deer’s eye, where does the “dead” come from? Do vegetarians see all animals as dead, or what? Whatever. It’s ignorance. I’ll stop ranting now. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/110 "2008-12-16T15:29:42Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Try imagining that Opal hadn’t been the one responding. > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** I need a recipe for Cherry cobbler > > **SnarkMan:** Oh you mean “Wounded Bleeding Baby” pie - here’s a recipe > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** My word, how terrible of a name. I don’t even like to think of that! > > **Everyone:** Fuck you Granny! > I’m just saying, **Opal** may deserve a pitting but there’s gotta be more to it than her response to that thread. The problem with that is that “buckeye” is nowhere near “wounded bleeding baby pie”, for fuck’s sake. IT’S A TREE NUT. ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/111 "2008-12-16T15:30:39Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Try imagining that Opal hadn’t been the one responding. > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** I need a recipe for Cherry cobbler > > **SnarkMan:** Oh you mean “Wounded Bleeding Baby” pie - here’s a recipe > > **Sweet-Old-Granny:** My word, how terrible of a name. I don’t even like to think of that! > > **Everyone:** Fuck you Granny! Uh-huh. Except for that being not at all like what really happened. Try: **Sweet-Old-Southern-Granny:** I need a recipe for those little beans with the black spots on them **HelpfulAnswerMan:** You’re living in the South- they’re called “Black-eyed Peas.” Here’s a recipe. **Sweet-Old-Southern-Granny:** My word, I’m not from the South. The South sucks. Your traditions are not my traditions. I’m leaving as soon as I can. Plus I’m vegetarian. And I’ll never call them that. Why should I? Why should I call a tasty legume by the name of a dismembered slave’s optical organ? **Everyone:** Are you fucking nuts, Granny? ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/112 "2008-12-16T15:34:35Z")
> [@zut](#): > > Uh-huh. Except for that being not at all like what really happened. Try: > > **Sweet-Old-Southern-Granny:** I need a recipe for those little beans with the black spots on them > > **HelpfulAnswerMan:** You’re living in the South- they’re called “Black-eyed Peas.” Here’s a recipe. > > **Sweet-Old-Southern-Granny:** My word, I’m not from the South. The South sucks. Your traditions are not my traditions. I’m leaving as soon as I can. Plus I’m vegetarian. And I’ll never call them that. Why should I? Why should I call a tasty legume by the name of a dismembered slave’s optical organ? > > **Everyone:** Are you fucking nuts, Granny? Quoted for truth. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/113 "2008-12-16T15:34:52Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I’m a little late to the party, but this pitting is long overdue. I also noticed the ring thread and it drove me crazy then too. > > Sometimes a Pitting serves to get your attention to behaviors in yourself you haven’t noticed, so I’ll say this nicely and without insults: Opal, many of us are just tired of giving you advice. I flat-out won’t. I’ve seen how you respond to people nicely giving you advice when you have asked for it. You are dismissive and curt, and don’t even consider many of the suggestions, and you come up with 1000x ways the idea won’t work. > > It’s like crying wolf. After a while it doesn’t work anymore. > > FTR, I grew up in MI and do indeed know what buckeyes were. This. I’ll happily engage **Opal** in chit-chat but I won’t bother answering questions or trying to help. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/114 "2008-12-16T15:36:34Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > No, I’m a vegetarian girl from Arizona and calling them “buckeyes” grosses me out. (Not for sports reasons, but from dead-animal-body-part reasons). I will never call them that. Plus I’m leaving Ohio next summer anyway, most likely. So… **Sweet-Old-Granny:** I need a recipe for Cherry cobbler **SnarkMan:** Oh you mean “Wounded Bleeding Baby” pie - here’s a recipe **Sweet-Old-Granny** : No, I’m a fourth level freemason from Paris, France where no one would _ever_ think about abusing children (not for sport, but for making a mess reasons). I will never use your recipe for cobbler. Plus I’m from Paris, France. **SnarkMan:** mmmmmmkay, well aren’t _you_ special. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/115 "2008-12-16T15:38:20Z")
Everyone should stop picking on **semiprecioushydratedsilicafelixdomesticus** ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/116 "2008-12-16T15:38:33Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > This comparison only works if Buckeye is conceivably as offensive a name as Wounded Bleeding Baby Pie. … It appeared as if it was as offensive to **Opal**. Sometimes a word doesn’t work like its supposed to. If you are ever on the South side of St. Louis MO. walk into any corner tavern. Walk up to the biggest guy in the place and tell him he looks like a Hoosier. Then duck and run or at least pick up your teeth off the floor. He’s not upset because you thought he was from Indiana. He’s upset because around there, a Hoosier is the lowest form of white trash. Taking this thread on its own, **Opal** was just plain offended by a word that she didn’t at all associate with yummy food > [@](#): > > Indeed, there is more to it, a noticeable pattern of OpalCat requesting help/advice from this community, then complaining constantly about the help/advice she’s given, without being appropriately thankful of the time and thought people put into helping her. Then this makes the pitting justifiable. Apparently the thread that caused this pitting is the last straw. Everybody here is looking at the camel’s back while I’ve been looking at the straw. Consider my ignorance fought. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/117 "2008-12-16T15:39:26Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > This. > > I’ll happily engage **Opal** in chit-chat but I won’t bother answering questions or trying to help. Wow! You grew up in Michigan, too? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/118 "2008-12-16T15:41:25Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Sorry for the slight hijack, but seriously? You too? How do you feel about beehives in cross section? (Or, frankly, at all?) I have this really weird thing about looking at lots of tiny circles all shoved together in a pattern – I know this sounds bizarre but it’s the best way I can describe it. It’s kind of freaking me out just talking about it right now. This picture plays on that exact fear. It’s a famous photoshop fake - link is to the Snopes site - but it really, really squigs me out. If you are sensitive to such images, you probably don’t want to look. 😉 > **[Is This a Breast Rash Caused by South American Larvae?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/south-american-larvae-breast-rash/)** > > Photograph supposedly depicts a breast rash caused by 'South American larvae'? ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/119 "2008-12-16T15:46:14Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > You guys are making me feel better - my irrational freaked out thing is similar to the tiny circles shoved together - a bunch of, say, short, bristle-like things all crammed together. I haven’t got the faintest idea why this bugs me, but it really does. I can’t even describe it, but I think you guys know what I mean. 1. Cannot 2. Resist 3. Hi, Jack Mine is with a certain sharply-defined pattern of light and dark shoved together, though holes and bristles can trigger it sometimes. I’d always assumed it was a symptom of my mental illness, so it’s really interesting to find it popping up here. Somebody should start a thread on this. I would, but I never hang out in IMHO so I feel like a tool going there just to start one. ALSO, DO NOT LOOK AT MALTHUS’ LINK IF YOU HAVE THIS PROBLEM. REALLY DO NOT. I peeked because I thought it might make for a good example, but it’s all too perfect of one, a nightmare quintessence of the pattern. Malthus, you say it squicks you too, so you must be one stone cold bastard. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368/120 "2008-12-16T15:47:48Z")
> [@Tabby\_Cat](#): > > Personally, I thought > > started the whole trainwreck. So she doesn’t want to call Toffee flavoured Banana pie Banoffee. Big hairy deal. The snark was completely uncalled for, and when pursued in the subsequent replies _to a food recipe thread_, rude. Agreed. “Ooooh aren’t you special?” started it. -FrL- [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opal-what-the-fuck-is-your-problem/477368.md?page=7)