# Open hunting on police now

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 15, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618 "2020-09-15T00:16:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/21 "2020-09-15T02:45:02Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> You people are pathetic.

What is your major malfunction? The LASD is infested with street gangs. Some other guy who may have been a gang member shot at them. Gangland shooting are not ok, but that is what this was. Nothing more. Do you cry when gang members are killed? Because that is what you seem to be doing.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/22 "2020-09-15T03:43:55Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> LASD is infested with street gangs. Some other guy who may have been a gang member shot at them. Gangland shooting are not ok, but that is what this was. Nothing more.

Cite that these particular two deputies were part of a “street gang”, though?

The broader allegation that the Compton Station LASD in general has at the very least some serious enforcement overreach problems, on the other hand, does seem [plausible](https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/public-safety/2020/08/11/la-sheriff--two-deputies-dismissed--six-others-transferred-from-compton):

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> [Compton pro tem. mayor Michelle] Chambers was disturbed to learn of a recent whistleblower complaint alleging a gang operating with vast power in Compton.
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> “We’re teaching our children to look for authority when you need help. To respect law enforcement. But when we’re not receiving the same respect there becomes an impasse with law enforcement and we don’t want that,” Chambers said.
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> During an emotional and heated press conference last Tuesday, Chambers and her colleagues called for state and federal investigations into the L.A. County Sheriff’s Compton Station. […]
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> The press conference was sparked by reports surrounding that internal whistleblower complaint filed in June by a Compton deputy named Art Gonzalez, who claimed he was retaliated against by an alleged sheriff’s deputy gang in Compton called the “Executioners.”
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> “For there to be a gang within the sheriff’s department is unacceptable and it hurts the relationship we’re trying to build between the community and law enforcement,” Chamber said, adding that she wants the department to be transparent in investigating the claims.
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> Sheriff Alex Villanueva addressed those concerns in a one-on-one interview with Spectrum News 1 and said he took those allegations extremely seriously and has already made changes.
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> “Right now in Compton we’ve relieved two deputies of duty and we’re transferring six deputies, and we’re still just at the starting phase of a very large investigation. And we’re going to take appropriate administrative action as we uncover evidence,” Villanueva said.

> [@eschereal](#):
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> I should note that I do not advocate shooting at any gang members who are not already shooting in your general direction, much less uniformed deputies.

Same here. Residents shouldn’t be engaging in gang wars or extrajudicial executions against LEOs, even if the LEOs have been tyrannically and illegally abusing their power.

But I think one-sided laments like the OP’s about “open hunting on police” in a situation like this, without even mentioning the severe problems with police abuse of power, are dishonest and unhelpful.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/23 "2020-09-15T04:03:31Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Cite that these particular two deputies were part of a “street gang”, though?

They were, at the very least, wearing the nominal colors of one of the gangs. LASD is going to want publicity about its internal gang culture, so this information may not be obtainable.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/24 "2020-09-15T04:18:47Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> > [@Kimstu](#):
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> > Cite that these particular two deputies were part of a “street gang”, though?
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> They were, at the very least, wearing the nominaI colors of one of the gangs. LASD is going to want publicity about its internal gang culture, so this information may not be obtainable.

I presume that by “nominal colors,” you’re not referring to their uniforms, right?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/25 "2020-09-15T04:20:57Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> They were, at the very least, wearing the nominal colors of one of the gangs. LASD is going to want publicity about its internal gang culture, so this information may not be obtainable.

Wait, did you mean to say “LASD is **not** going to want publicity about its internal gang culture…”?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/26 "2020-09-15T04:26:22Z")

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Yes, I meant to say “not”.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/27 "2020-09-15T11:10:39Z")

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I got that from tv news and the CNN web site,

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/28 "2020-09-15T11:52:04Z")

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I know you are too. Racist fuck!

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/29 "2020-09-15T12:00:04Z")

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Can you answer why you smear all of BLM due to the alleged actions of a few, but you don’t smear all police?

Anyway, this isn’t “open hunting on police” – this is a pretty isolated incident, certainly more isolated than all the things that the police have done to protesters and African Americans in the last couple of years. Would you also agree it’s open hunting on Black people based on recent news items involving police shooting Black people with little or no provocation?

Do you think an Omnibus Crimes Against Police will have nearly as many entries as the Controversial Police Encounters thread?

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/30 "2020-09-15T12:45:49Z")

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Because I don’t lock step in line with the BLM movement I’m a racist yeah right…

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/31 "2020-09-15T12:46:45Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Can you answer why you smear all of BLM due to the alleged actions of a few, but you don’t smear all police?

Evidently not.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/32 "2020-09-15T12:54:31Z")

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Right? Was that even a reply to me? I didn’t say anyone was racist. Very strange.

Me: Hey, did you leave the front door open last night?  
**eenerms** : What? Just because I leave doors open doesn’t mean I’m a racist…

Pretty defensive there.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/33 "2020-09-15T18:29:42Z")

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I usually think of right wing militia assholes like these two when I hear about cop killers.

> **[2014 Las Vegas shootings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Las_Vegas_shootings)**
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> The 2014 Las Vegas shootings occurred on June 8, 2014, when a married couple, Jerad and Amanda Miller, committed a shooting in northeastern Las Vegas, Nevada. Five people died, including the two shooters. The couple, who espoused extreme anti-government views, first killed two Las Vegas police officers at a restaurant before fleeing into a Walmart, where they killed an intervening armed civilian named Joseph Wilcox. The couple died after engaging ...

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/34 "2020-09-15T18:45:42Z")

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Well, yeah. If you don’t want to blame the DNC for everything…

> **[Video: Footage of sovereign citizen’s ‘full-frontal assault’ on courthouse...](https://www.police1.com/officer-shootings/videos/footage-of-sovereign-citizens-full-frontal-assault-on-courthouse-released-FVbzOMWjdoitrkIk/)**
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> Watch Footage of sovereign citizen’s ‘full-frontal assault’ on courthouse released and other Officer-Involved Shootings videos on Police1

> **[2010 West Memphis police shootings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_West_Memphis_police_shootings)**
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> Two police officers in West Memphis, Arkansas were shot and killed during a traffic stop on May 20, 2010. Police killed two suspects, 45-year-old Jerry R. Kane Jr. (b. 1964), and his 16-year-old son Joseph T. Kane (b. 1993). The two were later identified as members of the sovereign citizen movement. Footage of the shooting and ensuing shootout with police was shown in a season 5 episode of World's Wildest Police Videos.
> Around 11:36 a.m. CDT, W...

> **[42 Law Enforcement Officers Murdered by Domestic Extremists Since 2005](https://www.splcenter.org/20180927/42-law-enforcement-officers-murdered-domestic-extremists-2005)**

The idea that killing cops is a new idea is laughable. That it is a leftist idea is hysterical.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/35 "2020-09-15T20:54:36Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Because I don’t lock step in line with the BLM movement I’m a racist yeah right

Can you answer why you smear all of BLM due to the alleged actions of a few, but you don’t smear all police?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/36 "2020-09-15T23:13:01Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Because I don’t lock step in line with the BLM movement I’m a racist yeah right…

Can you answer why you smear all of BLM due to the alleged actions of a few, but you don’t smear all police?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/37 "2020-09-15T23:48:32Z")

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> Can you answer why you smear all of BLM due to the alleged actions of a few, but you don’t smear all police?

And why he doesn’t smear all white supremacists when a couple of their guys shoot cops?

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/38 "2020-09-15T23:59:03Z")

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Why did BLM go to Lancaster Pa after the guy got shot for attacking his sister and police officer.?Never showed him brandishing a butcher knife. BLM is no friend of black Americans. If they were they would address the black on black crime. Where are those protests.?Only when it’s a White cop, never all the good police who help their people, Black or white. Like I said it’s like you think those deputies, that were just sitting there, think it was their fault. I hope that you do not need help from a first responders.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/39 "2020-09-16T00:35:31Z")

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Not those two, anyway. (rimshot).

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/40 "2020-09-16T00:38:19Z")

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Seriously, thoughts and prayers, I hope they don’t die. I mean, of this. Of course they’re going to die, someday. Like all of us.

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