# Open hunting on police now

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 15, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618 "2020-09-15T00:16:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/62 "2020-09-16T15:40:34Z")

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See post 53

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/63 "2020-09-16T15:47:11Z")

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FWIW when there is any violence on either side , I would be equally outraged. I believe I have been consistent on that.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/64 "2020-09-16T15:47:56Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> See post 53

Repeating the lie doesn’t make it true.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/65 "2020-09-16T15:56:16Z")

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Post 53 tells me nothing except that you’re misinformed. BLM is Marxist scum? WTF? Do you think they want the proletariat to overthrow the bourgeoisie? Do you think, for example, NBA basketball players that have BLM on their jersey, or the NFL which puts Black Lives Matter in the end zone is looking for workers to take over the means of production?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/66 "2020-09-16T15:58:57Z")

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“I’m called a racist because I don’t support BLM” – maybe we should unpack that. BLM: “Black Lives Matter”. Which does not say that white or brown or yellow or red lives do not matter, just that black lives must no longer be taken for granted.

BLM is not an actual organization. It is a complaint. So “I don’t support BLM” is “black lives don’t matter”. That sounds pretty fucking racist.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/67 "2020-09-16T16:24:19Z")

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See called a racist again…

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/68 "2020-09-16T16:32:29Z")

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I haven’t called you a racist, but I will call you an idiot who seems very defensive about possible racism with very bad reading comprehension. OK, here goes:

You’re an idiot who seems weirdly defensive about possible racism and you have very bad reading comprehension.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/69 "2020-09-16T16:36:51Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> See called a racist again…

You are a fucking moron who does not know what words mean.

You think “marxist” is some kind of insult, but have no concept of what it is.  
You don’t think black lives matter. You have made it clear that you are FINE with black people being killed for no cause at any time. Specifically, you’re fine if black people are murdered.

You are filth. Scum.

Better?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/70 "2020-09-16T16:36:53Z")

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One thing I’ve noticed: Nobody really ever tells the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation that “all cancers matter.”

Weird, right ?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/71 "2020-09-16T16:46:07Z")

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If doctors, funding agencies and medical researchers were ignoring breast cancer patients, and actually kneeling on their necks and killing them…

Then the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation might be getting a little upset, and trying to draw attention to the fact that breast cancer patients were getting the short end of the stick.

Weird how this is not happening.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/72 "2020-09-16T16:48:31Z")

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I don’t think I made my point very well.

Responding to “Black Lives Matter,” and all that it _truly_ means, with “All Lives Matter” is analogous to shouting at Susan B. Komen that “All Cancers Matter.”

I’m agreeing with you.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/73 "2020-09-16T16:53:11Z")

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Ahh yes. Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/74 "2020-09-16T16:55:08Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I’ll give this one last try – why do you blame all of BLM for the alleged actions of a few, but you don’t blame all cops (a much more organized operation, with actual hierarchies, HR departments, promotions, etc.) for the actions of the not-few-enough?

He’ll also ignore that BLM, as well- or un-organized as one may imagine it, has no control over who calls themselves BLM protesters, while the police have complete control over who is or isn’t a police officer, in fact they hire, train and certify every person who becomes a cop.

BLM organizers also have no duty to prevent crime or arrest people who commit crimes, while the police do, and deliberately fail to do so when a fellow cop commits a crime.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/75 "2020-09-16T17:02:41Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> AFAICT, the protestors’ not unreasonable complaint is that the cop should not have immediately resorted to shooting dead a guy waving a knife some ten or fifteen feet away from him.

I’m all for reforming the cops and the BLM movement and firing a shit ton of cops but a guy running at you with a knife from TEN FEET AWAY is basically on top of you. A running man will cover that distance in a second. Few situations merit the use of a gun but that is one of them.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/76 "2020-09-16T17:03:18Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> BLM is no friend of black Americans. If they were they would address the black on black crime.

> [@What are some dog whistles of the American left?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-some-dog-whistles-of-the-american-left/914012/86):
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> [Black Lives Matter reiterated that all black lives matter, not just those who are killed at the hands of police, and advocates and community leaders are trying to turn pain into purpose.](https://abc7ny.com/vigil-held-in-brooklyn-amid-nyc-gun-violence-surge/6307313/)
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> But yeah, to complain that that is not their focus is like complaining about the low quality of the full body massages offered at McDonald’s.

> [@What are some dog whistles of the American left?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-some-dog-whistles-of-the-american-left/914012/101):
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> [They also don’t just focus on black victims of police violence.](https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/12/09/black-lives-matter-supporters-call-attention-graphic-video-arizona-shooting)

> [@eenerms](#):
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> Again I’m called a racist because I don’t support BLM

You’re called a racist because you’re full of racist bullshit.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/77 "2020-09-16T18:00:20Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> Fox News told you that, did it?  
> BLM was organized by three highly educated and accomplished women; _Patrisse Cullors_ , _Alicia Garza_ , and _Opal Tometi_.

Are we sure that third one wasn’t _ **HI** , Opal Tometi_? \*

\*(remembering you fondly, Opal. RIP)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/78 "2020-09-16T18:02:36Z")

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Nicely done, **k**.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/79 "2020-09-16T18:12:49Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Again I’m called a racist because l don’t support BLM… I call bullshit on this Marxist, race baiting organization. They are organized leftist scum.

You appear to be complaining that the reactions to your position are based on an un-nuanced, non-contextualized reading of the words you’ve posted.

Let’s go ahead and stipulate that for now.

I’m just going to point out that understanding BLM as a movement requires a nuanced, context-driven reading of the very phrase “Black Lives Matter.” I’ve yet to read a post of yours that suggests you have applied such nuance and context in your own reading.

Which leads me to wonder: Why do you get to insist upon nuance and context from everybody else, when you don’t apply them yourself?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/80 "2020-09-16T20:28:20Z")

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You’re all wasting your time. Long detailed replies mean nothing to eenerms. He’s got you all dancing the Shodan tango.

You write a big detailed rebuttal, and you get this back:

> [@eenerms](#):
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> See called a racist again…

Stop wasting your time.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-hunting-on-police-now/920618/81 "2020-09-16T20:35:25Z")

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Opal was listed third, though.

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