# Open-Minded Liberals Hold Hate Fest **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 1, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342 "2003-12-01T21:07:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ben\_Hicks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbce88/32.png) [@Ben\_Hicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben_Hicks)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/61 "2003-12-02T01:51:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Fuck him. I don’t need to be polite to a lying creep. A man who dresses himself up in military garb years after deserting his (minimal) military obligations. Elmer Fudd looks in the mirror and sees Churchill. And I am somehow obliged to treat him with respect and deference? No. Not just no, HELL NO! Priceless, absolutely priceless 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/62 "2003-12-02T02:09:48Z")
Well, all _I_ know is that _I_ want an invite to the next shindig at **minty green** ’s house. I’ll even help him clean the leaves outta his gutters. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/63 "2003-12-02T02:38:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Liberals like to pretend that they are nuanced and unbiased, but their views are painfully easy to enumerate. ‘Hive-mentality’ is fairly accurate when talking about the ‘liberal mindset’. Replace the word “Liberal” with “Conservative”, “Anarchist”, “Communist”, “Libertarian”, “Moderate”, “Green”, “Socialist”, “Fascist”, “Racist”, “Homophobe”, “Christian”, “Octogenarian”, “Teenager”, or any other group you can think of, and it’d be just as true. You’d be surprised how unbiased biased people think they are. ::cough:: ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/64 "2003-12-02T02:43:16Z")
I certainly never claimed to be unbiased. Doesn’t bias just mean that you have a position? For the record, I am biased in favour of social democracy, Queer rights, the integrity of the Canadian confederation, ‘soft’ Quebec nationalism, environmental sustainability, public transit, cats, Earl Grey tea, and hot British boys. I can tell how surprised you are. ---
**Author:** ![Hydrocortisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Hydrocortisone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hydrocortisone)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/65 "2003-12-02T03:03:09Z")
> [@](#): > > This shit = Bringing up an incindiary topic he knows is going to blow up, and refuse to back up his comments or even revisit the thread again. Gee, what has it been 5 hours? I will post agina after the game. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/66 "2003-12-02T03:08:23Z")
Been way more than 5 hours in your other threads, Hydo. It’s no stretch to assume you would follow the same pattern in this one. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/67 "2003-12-02T03:22:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mtgman \* > He drives a Volkswagon. A [4-door Volkswagon](http://www.vw.com/passat/), not one of the sporty ones. A bug-fucker would most likely drive something larger, or at least more sporty. Offsets the feeling of inadequacy you know. That’s right, you haven’t been over since I bought the RX-8, have you? 🆒 No! I will not go quietly into parenthood! Never! Even though I brought the child seat to the dealership to make sure it fit into the back seat. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/68 "2003-12-02T03:30:28Z")
Oh for god’s sake, with an assinine OP like that, why do you guys bother? ---
**Author:** ![Hydrocortisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Hydrocortisone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hydrocortisone)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/69 "2003-12-02T03:34:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Been way more than 5 hours in your other threads, Hydo. It’s no stretch to assume you would follow the same pattern in this one. Can you provide links to treads I started and never posted to again? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/70 "2003-12-02T03:43:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blessedwolf \* > **Conservatives may have more practice hating…** > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blessedwolf \* > **Cite motherfucker? Put up or shut up.** You heard the man. ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/71 "2003-12-02T03:49:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Brutus \* > \*\* That virtually every post following the OP is about something other than the fact that Hollywood liberals are going have a ‘Hate Bush’ conference is telling. > \*\* Do you admit or deny that my first post in this thread was a direct response to the OP? Do you admit or deny that I issued a very specific challenge to **hydro** , asking him to back up a statement that he had made with actual facts? Do you admit or deny that **hydro** has thus far failed to answer that challenge, just as he has failed to provide any coherent defense of his positions in any other thread? Do you admit or deny that both you and **hydro** are wanker trolls who have never made any attempt to contribute to intelligent discourse on this board, and that neither of you ever posts with any intention other than starting fights or disrupting knowledgeable debates? ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/72 "2003-12-02T03:53:50Z")
[Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222286) you posted the OP, then a portion of a news article 9 minutes later. You never returned. Revtim asks on the second page: “Hey Hydrocortisone, are the _ever_ going to defend your OP?” [This one’s a Great Debate](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225739). 32 replies, none by you. Further updates as events warrant. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/73 "2003-12-02T03:56:22Z")
[Another Great Debate](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225131). **60** replies this time, and once again, _none_ by you. Hydro, this is the first page of search results, counting only GD and Pit threads. Are you really so damn ignorant of your own posting history that you don’t recall repeatedly failing to return to your own threads? ---
**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/74 "2003-12-02T03:57:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Can you provide links to treads I started and never posted to again? Well, howabout [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221663); two pages long, and 99% **Hydro** free. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/75 "2003-12-02T04:01:44Z")
Thanks for providing the links, folks. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/76 "2003-12-02T04:04:11Z")
> [@](#): > > For the record, I am biased in favour of social democracy, Queer rights, the integrity of the Canadian confederation, ‘soft’ Quebec nationalism, environmental sustainability, public transit, cats, Earl Grey tea, and hot British boys. Well, Matt, you just earned your place in the ultra-exclusive Exception Club. You get keys to the Exceptional Porsche, access to the Exceptional Spa, and have an all-night pass to the Exceptional British Boys harem. 'Course, there’s a reason why most of the population doesn’t get to join the Exception Club… ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/77 "2003-12-02T04:06:29Z")
[Is Santa part of the Christian faith?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=224171) You don’t seem to care, as you never returned to this debate. [Income tax debate](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222797) [Predestination and freewill](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220957) [Six months in jail for saying “Jesus”?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221663) Two pages of replies, none by you. In the OP you ask what happened to the student’s first amendment rights. Did you stop caring about your position after people started replying, or what? [Is America doomed?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221331) One reply from you, consisting of a link to the article cited in your OP. [Sue environmentalists for CA fires?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221156) I also noticed examples of you replying only a few times and never actually responding to the points brought up by other posters. In addition to the GD/Pit only restriction on your no-return threads, I also only went after the threads with a reasonable amount of replies. Nobody expects you to return to a debate when there’s only two or three posts. Furthermore, some of these threads appear to be simply questions. But they are still debates, in the Great Debates forum, and you did not return to your own debate. On preview: You’re welcome, Rev. I’m going ahead with this post since I had it all typed up and ready to go before I saw your reply. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/78 "2003-12-02T04:21:15Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, Matt, you just earned your place in the ultra-exclusive Exception Club. You get keys to the Exceptional Porsche, access to the Exceptional Spa, and have an all-night pass to the Exceptional British Boys harem. > > 'Course, there’s a reason why most of the population doesn’t get to join the Exception Club… Huh? I don’t get it. :confused. If it’s got a British Boys harem, I guess it’s good, but still… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/79 "2003-12-02T05:27:44Z")
Sorry, I missed a memo or something. Liberals aren’t supposed to hate people? Since when? I’ve been a liberal my entire life, and I hate all sorts of people, for a variety of reasons. George W, Richard Gere, Ronald Reagan, more than one poster on these boards\*, Saddam Hussein, Julia Roberts, Jesse Helms, the guy who taught my Intro to Journalism class back in '99… I got nothing against hate, it’s just about _who_ you hate, and _why_. \*Although not, against all expectation, **Brutus** , whom I find oddly cuddly. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342/80 "2003-12-02T05:52:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*That’s right, you haven’t been over since I bought the RX-8, have you? 🆒 > > No! I will not go quietly into parenthood! Never! Even though I brought the child seat to the dealership to make sure it fit into the back seat. \*\* A rotary engine? Sweet! That’s the coolest thing about the RX series. What model year? If it is a 2004 [you may be interested in this](http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=16135), if you haven’t seen it already. Remember our conversation at the Baby Superstore, if it was built after 2002 it is supposed to have the upper tether and two lower anchorage latches. As I mentioned there I think the new regs are killer, but year after year more reports come out about babies dying in accidents which were preventable if the car seats were installed properly. So the regulators just mandated new restraint systems which are easier/more foolproof. I would not have thought installing a car seat correctly would be all that difficult using a lap belt/shoulder strap, but you’d be suprised. Getting the tension just right and the positioning and everything really is tricky for some seats/cars. The worst part is hand-me-down carseats or garage-sale car seats in newer cars because they were often designed with different assumptions(a hand-tightened lap belt instead of an automatic shoulder belt for instance) and are even trickier to install properly. Something like 85% of car seats are installed improperly. Not all of these would result in catastrophic failure of course, but they aren’t providing all the protection they could. I guess the 238 or 197 horsepower engine(standard 6-speed transmission versus automatic) on that RX-8 has to weigh in favor of you being a bugfucker though. 😛 Enjoy, Steven [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-minded-liberals-hold-hate-fest/216342.md?page=5)