# Open Secrets in Hollywood: what else is out there? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995 "2017-10-15T22:57:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/1 "2017-10-15T22:57:03Z")
I admit that I had often heard about Bill Cosby’s sexual allegations long before Hannibal Buress resurrected them. I have no idea why it didn’t catch on and get rolling before, but it certainly did then. Harvey Weinstein? It was well known enough to be the butt of many dark-humor jokes over the years, but it just sat there. I’d heard the jokes, but had no idea what the reality was. What else is sitting there now? I figure the closest we have is the rampant pedophilia in Hollywood. I believe a documentary was made about it a few years ago, but it seems that nothing is being done about it. It may not be entirely true, but it is the closest thing to an open secret I can think of. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/2 "2017-10-17T13:43:56Z")
There was a documentary a couple years ago called [An Open Secret](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Secret) about a pedophile ring in Hollywood. It was hyped as something that would name names and expose the A-list agents, directors and producers who passed around pre-teen child stars at parties. It didn’t do anything of the sort; they only implicated one A-list director, and his “victim” turned out to be over 18 at the time. A lot of the now-adult accusers of these men took big settlement money which they can no longer afford to give back, but there is a very big shoe waiting to drop on this. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/3 "2017-10-17T14:49:13Z")
> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#): > > There was a documentary a couple years ago called [An Open Secret](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Secret) about a pedophile ring in Hollywood. It was hyped as something that would name names and expose the A-list agents, directors and producers who passed around pre-teen child stars at parties. It didn’t do anything of the sort; they only implicated one A-list director, and his “victim” turned out to be over 18 at the time. A lot of the now-adult accusers of these men took big settlement money which they can no longer afford to give back, but there is a very big shoe waiting to drop on this. this is one I’m wondering about. there’ve been a couple of fairly big names (Corey Feldman\*, Elijah Wood) who have made statements about things like that going on, and within a day they were suspiciously walking back their comments. - well, he was a big name at one time ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/4 "2017-10-17T14:55:52Z")
Noah Galvin spilled the tea about Bryan Singer and almost immediately retracted it like a year ago, as well. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/5 "2017-10-17T17:14:46Z")
Yeah, saw the Open Secret documentary and it was an apt title. Hollywood’s way of operating has been an open secret ever since the first studios went up among the orange groves in the early 20th century. Hollywood sold sex, small wonder that it lived by it too. And the Weinstein incident won’t change things, powerful men (and women) will always use their power to get what they want, they’ll simply be a lot more careful in the light of recent events. Shit like this won’t stop in the movie business until we have robots replacing the actors. Now that would be good on so many other levels too, replacing these preening peacocks would be an amazing idea anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/6 "2017-10-17T17:26:37Z")
There have been rumors swirling around Louis C.K. and how he treats some women, but I have no details. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/7 "2017-10-17T17:26:42Z")
I hear whisperings regarding \*\*James Woods \*\* - like he might, I dunno, an incredible jerk or something. But it’s just a rumor 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/8 "2017-10-17T17:57:42Z")
“John Travolta is gay” has been floating around since at least the late 80s. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/9 "2017-10-17T19:45:42Z")
There are all kinds of websites (not Straight Dope) who specialize in this kind of stuff. For example: > **[TMZ](https://www.tmz.com/)** > > Breaking the biggest stories in celebrity and entertainment news. Get exclusive access to the latest stories, photos, and video as only TMZ can. You do a search there for “rape” and get 704 search results. ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/10 "2017-10-18T03:57:43Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > There have been rumors swirling around Louis C.K. and how he treats some women, but I have no details. Allegedly, his MO is to masturbate in front of women comics. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/11 "2017-10-18T08:02:41Z")
> [@caligulathegod](#): > > Allegedly, his MO is to masturbate in front of women comics. A rumour that’s entirely in the head of the _Gawker_ staff - the person they initially cited has outright denied it was him. I’m not saying it’s not possible he’s a masturbating creeper (the worst kind of Minecraft mob!), but the “allegation” as it currently stands is entirely created and driven by the Kinja sites at this point, all in response to one blind item years ago. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/12 "2017-10-18T19:54:25Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > “John Travolta is gay” has been floating around since at least the late 80s. Tom Cruise as well ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/13 "2017-10-18T21:34:41Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > A rumour that’s entirely in the head of the _Gawker_ staff - the person they initially cited has outright denied it was him. I’m not saying it’s not possible he’s a masturbating creeper (the worst kind of Minecraft mob!), but the “allegation” as it currently stands is entirely created and driven by the Kinja sites at this point, all in response to one blind item years ago. It doesn’t help that half his act is about masturbation. One reason to doubt the stories is that Roseanne Barr is spreading them. She claims to not have first hand knowledge but had heard stories. She always jumps onto any fad that comes out. She’s a walking Jerry Springer show. Memory regressions therapy, multiple personalities, whatever is out there, she has it. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/14 "2017-10-19T13:21:35Z")
When Titanic came out, there were rumors that Leonardo DiCaprio was not only gay, but very busy at it. And Oprah and Hillary have been said to be lesbians for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/15 "2017-10-19T13:29:53Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > “John Travolta is gay” has been floating around since at least the late 80s. > [@xizor](#): > > Tom Cruise as well > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > When Titanic came out, there were rumors that Leonardo DiCaprio was not only gay, but very busy at it. > > And Oprah and Hillary have been said to be lesbians for a long time. And Kevin Spacey… And Matthew Broderick… …basically everyone is or isn’t or may be gay in Hollywood ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/16 "2017-10-19T13:37:38Z")
Gerard Alessandrini’s parody song “Who’s Gay in Hollywood” mentions Madonna, Jodie Foster (since out), Tom Cruise (would never cruise West Hollywood), Cher, Zannick, and (no, no one here is queer, just go ask) Richard Gere. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/17 "2017-10-19T13:56:06Z")
I don’t think “Who’s gay in hollywood” is really the intention here. We’re talking about open secrets like who abuses\harasses women or children. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/18 "2017-10-19T14:41:58Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > this is one I’m wondering about. there’ve been a couple of fairly big names (Corey Feldman\*, Elijah Wood) who have made statements about things like that going on, and within a day they were suspiciously walking back their comments. > > - well, he was a big name at one time Elijah Wood backed off his comments. Feldman didn’t. He basically said he believed Feldman but he had no first hand knowledge. I believed him. Wood has good parents who didn’t just hand him over to agents and producers. I started a thread a while ago about child actors who didn’t turn into train wrecks. There are a lot of them. It’s confirmation bias to think it screws up all kids. One common thread is the well adjusted adults had good parents who took care of them when they were acting. Not parent’s who wanted to live vicariously through their kids. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/19 "2017-10-19T14:45:36Z")
I have heard Brian Singer rumor and also that Oliver Stone engages in Weinstein like behavior in that he will call a talent agency to have actresses sent to his room to talk about scripts and then try to sleep with them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995/20 "2017-10-19T16:49:45Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > …basically everyone is or isn’t or may be gay in Hollywood There were rumors that Hugh Hefner was gay. If true, you have to be impressed by how far he went in denial. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/open-secrets-in-hollywood-what-else-is-out-there/798995.md?page=2)