# Opera browser and the SDMB **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 26, 2002, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683 "2002-04-26T01:15:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2002, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/21 "2002-04-27T15:21:24Z")
PhiloVance reprise I am interested in having the links in the order I choose not alphabetical order. In favorites on IE you are able to order the links alphabetically or in any manor you choose. I like to put folders under the links portion of favorites. I have things like comics, stocks etc. When I press on these buttons on the links tool bar the bookmarks displayed in this menu are in alphabetical order. I haven’t found a way to have these display in an order I choose. If I get to these folders through the favorites menu the are displayed in the order I choose. I am using IE version 5.50. ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2002, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/22 "2002-04-27T21:18:54Z")
\*\* gazpacho \*\* I’m not sure about folders under links, but I’m able to arrange my links entries in any order I chose by using the drag and drop method. I’m not at home now, but at home I use IE 5.5 also, what I’m using here is 6.0. Just left click it and move it to the point within the links folder that you want, then let go. Be careful about double clicking because then you’ll go to that link. 🙂 Just tried it on 6.0 and it’s the same. Good luck.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2002, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/23 "2002-04-27T23:44:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by PhiloVance \* > \*\*\*\* gazpacho > > \*\* > > I’m not sure about folders under links, but I’m able to arrange my links entries in any order I chose by using the drag and drop method. I’m not at home now, but at home I use IE 5.5 also, what I’m using here is 6.0. Just left click it and move it to the point within the links folder that you want, then let go. Be careful about double clicking because then you’ll go to that link. 🙂 > > Just tried it on 6.0 and it’s the same. Good luck.🆒 \*\* That works great for ordering the links when you get to them from the favorites menu. Unfortunately the links in the folders under the links tool bar are for me always in alphabetical order. ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/24 "2002-04-28T01:49:18Z")
Ok, in IE the links appear across the top if you have the links folder checked. They are continued (if all links can’t fit across the top) where it shows LINKS \>\>. F’rinstance I have a Google link and a SDMB link and I want them to appear as the first two. I just grab one and move it to the top of the links, grab the next do the same. Drag and drop is what I’ve always called it. AFAIK this has always worked. You can do it off of IE (Favorites is, after all, only a folder, tho a special one) in the same fashion. Try it, you might like it. Post back if you have trouble. 😉 Hmmm. this all started because of Opera, didn’t it? This is a hijack, but who cares. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2002, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/25 "2002-04-28T16:26:28Z")
Lets just make sure that we are talking about the same thing. If I click on the favorites menu I get a menu of folders and bookmarks. The first of these is links. The entries in links appear on the links tool bar. In links I have several folders. If I drag the folders around I can rearrange the order they appear on the links tool bar. However if I try and rearrange the bookmarks inside these folders under links the order of the book marks when I press the button on the tool bar is alphabetical no matter what order I have chosen. ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/26 "2002-05-07T06:50:19Z")
Go to [http://validator.w3.org/](http://validator.w3.org/) and put any vB page in, and it barfs all over the place. I use Opera 6 (registered!) as my primary brower, and love it except for reading SDMB. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/27 "2002-05-09T02:19:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Go to [http://validator.w3.org/](http://validator.w3.org/) and put any vB page in, and it barfs all over the place. Interesting. I just checked this page, and while there are a few things that it’s probably justified in not liking, most of what it’s complaining about seem to be the URLs in links. Things like ‘Error: Unknown entity “userid”’. Since the “entity” userid is, in fact, a perfectly valid part of a vB url, the validator really shouldn’t be complaining about it. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/28 "2002-06-10T00:59:28Z")
[Netscape 7.0 Preview Release 1](http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/7/default.jsp) is out, and it renders the first column as fixed-width, like Internet Explorer does. Maybe with the next release of Opera, this problem will just fix itself. However, given how sweeeeeeet this version of Netscape looks after just a few hours, I may never use Opera again. ---
**Author:** ![Coises](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Coises](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coises)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2002, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/29 "2002-06-11T07:29:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Achernar \* > What the correct coding would be depends on which way the coder wants it to look. If you want the left column to be a constant width, you should specify the width on a column level, not on a cell level. That would look something like this: > > \\\ > \\\ > \\\ > etc… That wouldn’t help in Opera, since Opera just ignores the \ tag. _If_ the idea were to force a constant width, then the all the messages should have been formatted as rows of one table, rather than making each message a separate table. The fact that this was not done makes it fairly clear that the designers didn’t think that would be a good idea. What’s odd is that Opera pretty much treats:      \…\      \…\ as if everything is up for grabs; but changing that to:      \…\      \…\ _does_ produce what I think is the intended effect. IE 6, as best I can guess, honors the WIDTH attribute and discards the NOWRAP attribute. My guess is that what was wanted was a _minimum_ width of 175px, that would expand — in only those messages that need it — to show all left column lines without wrapping. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2002, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/30 "2002-06-11T09:53:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coises \* > **That wouldn’t help in Opera, since Opera just ignores the \ tag.** Really. Opera is not fully compliant with HTML 4? Forget that; I’m never leaving Netscape. ---
**Author:** ![Coises](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Coises](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coises)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2002, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683/31 "2002-06-11T10:21:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Achernar \* > **Opera is not fully compliant with HTML 4?** Opera lists the standards it supports (and the exceptions) at [http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/](http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/) so you can check out the details. (Of course, that lists _intentional_ non-support only, not bugs… like any non-trivial software, it has some of those, too.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/opera-browser-and-the-sdmb/105683.md?page=1)