# Operation Northwoods? P2OG? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 8, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/operation-northwoods-p2og/228162 "2004-02-08T19:27:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/operation-northwoods-p2og/228162/1 "2004-02-08T19:27:11Z")
Anyone ever heard of Operation Northwoods? Is it for real? Also, what about this “Proactive Preemptive Operations Group” I keep hearing about? Any truth to the rumours? If you don’t know what I’m talking about, look them up. They are interesting… But I am having some difficulty checking on the veracity of stories involving them. -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/operation-northwoods-p2og/228162/2 "2004-02-08T19:46:46Z")
There’s all sorts of folks out there with something to say on the subject. [Here’s](http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html) ABC News’ page on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/operation-northwoods-p2og/228162/3 "2004-02-09T01:55:01Z")
As always with stuff from my Vast Database of codeword stuff. Copyright me… NORTHWOODS (US 62) Plan proposed by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff to create terrorist incidents in the United States and elsewhere that might justify a US invasion of Cuba. It was suggested that casualty lists would create a public demand for an invasion. In one case, it was suggested that any possible failure of John Glenn’s orbital space flight be blamed on Cuban electronic interference. Balto Sun, 4-22-01, quoted from James Bamford in “Body of Secrets”